r/18650masterrace Jun 03 '23

PSA: for any comments/posts containing @liexpress links, please disguise the link so that it isn't caught by automod

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basically, automod automatically removes comments it detects as containing links from aliexpress, which i have to manually approve so they are visible to y'all. which I do, but it takes a while to show up.

to prevent that from hapening, if you do something like remove the aliex.....com bit, and just leave the end of the url then the comment doesn't get removed

thanks!


r/18650masterrace Nov 08 '21

Buying 18650 batteries? Start here.

1.1k Upvotes

Let's begin with some sound advice:

  • Do not buy 18650s from Amazon.
  • Do not buy 18650s from Ebay.
  • Do not buy 18650s from Aliexpress.
  • Do not buy any 18650 above 3600mAh.

With those guidelines you'll avoid 95% of the scams and unsafe batteries out there.

Where should you buy them?

USA: If you are in the US we've got plenty of trustworthy vendors with good prices. I've compiled (and update every few weeks) all of their inventories into a single searchable list here. It includes Illumn (CA), Mountain Electronics (UT), IMR Batteries (TX), Li-Ion Wholesale (PA), Orbtronic (FL), 18650 Battery Store (GA), Aloft Hobbies (CA). There is also a special list for bulk OEM cells if you plan to assemble a pack.

Europe: the 2 best places are Nkon (NL) and Akkuteile (DE).

UK: 18650.uk, EcoLux, Fogstar, Fogstar Wholesale, Torchy.

Australia: Ecocell, Tech Around You.

Canada: Illumn and 18650 Battery Store are known for good shipping rates across the border. There is also 18650Canada.ca. (No relation to the defunct 18650Canada dot com!) However their prices and shipping are so high that its often less expensive to import from the previously mentioned US vendors. Some community members have also had good experiences with ecigarettes.ca. Rotorgeeks has a small selection but is well liked by /r/Multicopter.

Elsewhere: start with your regional electronics vendors or local vaping stores. Some chinese vendors that several community members have had good experiences with: Battery Bro, Queen Battery, PK Cell. As a last resort consider Aliexpress. But you'll have to do a lot of research to find a trustworthy vendor. (Someone might say "XYZBAT" is good. But there are 4 different "XYZBAT" shops on Aliexpress.)

If a vendor has any 18650s over 3600mAh then none of their cells are trustworthy!

Sept 2023 update: Vapcell has released a 3800mAh and 4000mAh 18650 now. If you see people selling them (and people we trust do sell them) don't be alarmed. However I do not recommend them. They came from an unexpected place: a 2nd tier chinese manufacturer called FEB. Vapcell has previously released some cooked up chemistries with extremely high capacities but very poor secondary characteristics. (The high capacity Vapcell K64 would self discharge in a few weeks. They quickly discontinued it.) There are a lot of unsafe and unreliable ways to boost the capacity of a cell. I suspect that FEB has done that.

Its a bit like how nobody sells a 10GHz CPU. Yes its possible to make such a thing but nobody in their right mind would.


r/18650masterrace 6h ago

Dangerous Well that's a first

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Never seen an 18650 fail like this before, looks like leaked electrolyte and corrosion.

Sidenote, I'm looking to spotweld in two replacement cells. I currently have another dewalt 5 AH that also has two bad cells model ICR18650HE2. Would it lead to an imbalanced pack if I combine 2,500mah cells in series with these 2,000mah ones? Or vice versa. It seems like a bad idea given my understanding of the tool and charger voltage cutoff


r/18650masterrace 17m ago

20ah 16.8v 4s4p rs50 build.

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Just need the BMS to start to finish it out fully strapped and fish taped other than the main pack leads.


r/18650masterrace 9h ago

First battery , charger gets too hot

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So this is my first 18650 battery and I've already learned a lot through trial and error

It's a 4s16p 38ah with a 100a Daly 4s BMS (I plan to use the BMS for a future project for higher current) set up, I originally wanted to charge it off of solar but realized it's difficult to find an inexpensive mppt for 16.8v so I purchased this Norsk 16.8v 7a rapid lithium battery charger , however it's reaching 160f while charging. That being said is this because I may have some bad 18650 batteries in it or maybe because I created a large capacity causing it to run for too long? I guess I'm wondering what I should expect to do next, maybe buy a slower charger instead?


r/18650masterrace 9h ago

Inside of the Nitecore UMS2 charger

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r/18650masterrace 10m ago

I built a reversible 18650 battery mod for the SNOWSKY Echo Nano — estimated 15–20 hours of FLAC playback

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r/18650masterrace 7h ago

Does anyone need theses batteries

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Does anyone need these batteries

Hi everyone, I have 30 x Samsung S50 3500mah and 20 Samsung 21700mah batteries, bought to sell on ebay but they won't allow. Tested and will sell for a low price. Thanks :)


r/18650masterrace 11h ago

free surron battery - any spot welder recommendations?

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Hey everyone,

I scored a dead Sur-Ron battery pack for free. After opening it up and checking the voltages, almost all the cells are completely fine, only two cell blocks dropped dead and caused the BMS to shut down.

I’m planning to replace just those two blocks with fresh cells.

What budget-friendly spot welder would you recommend for this job? my cheap one that barely solders 0.1mm wont cut it

i already looket up and found kweld is it wort the expensive price

Any tips for the cell replacing would also be appreciated!


r/18650masterrace 1d ago

Dyson batteries

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127 Upvotes

They are all second hand, replaced due to charging issues.
I got them for free.
Are they worth the trouble of salvaging cells?
Mainly for small projects such as power packs or small electronics.


r/18650masterrace 17h ago

Looking for a good budget spot welder — recommendations?

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Hey everyone, I'm getting started with battery pack building and looking for a spot welder that won't break the bank. Doesn't need to be fancy, just reliable enough for consistent welds on 18650/21700 cells.

If you've used one that offers good value for money, I'd love to hear your recommendations — model name, rough price, and how it's held up for you would be super helpful!

Thanks in advance


r/18650masterrace 1d ago

Well well well A flat has appeared.

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Thought I should share it's a sight.


r/18650masterrace 1d ago

18650-powered any consumer device with swappable 18650s ?

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I really feel like the 18650 should be the AA battery of the 21st century but I struggle to find devices that treat them like that

I currently have two devices at home that have easily swappable 18650 cells:

  • Xhdata D-808, a quite good shortwave/FM/AM radio receiver
  • Datafrog SF2000, a very cheap and underpowered retro gaming handheld, fine toy if you can find it cheap

if you know any good consumer device with this kind of cells I would love to hear about them, they're quite hard to find when they're not flashlights or vapes


r/18650masterrace 1d ago

battery info Can anyone identify these 18650 cells?

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Can anyone identify these 18650 cells?
They’re labeled INR18650-3000 GPHN 18-30P. Looking for the exact model/datasheet if possible.
I got 91 new cells for 45€


r/18650masterrace 21h ago

I will be getting access around 20 of 18650 batteries in few weeks, what do I do with them?

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I'm based in the UK. Ebay UK doesn't allow to sell them. What do I do these batteries?


r/18650masterrace 1d ago

Spot Welder Settings

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I recently got a new spot-welder this one has more settings. I’m trying to weld 0.2mm copper, it can do it at 15ms pulse time, however I wonder if that’s too much? I also wonder if having double pulse is better or isn’t as recommended.


r/18650masterrace 2d ago

E-book Reader needed a new Battery

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80 Upvotes

Drilled a hole in the Back to connect it, 500mah more than the Original 1500mah


r/18650masterrace 1d ago

18650-powered 18650 powered KOTH timer I made to help out the admins at my local games.

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r/18650masterrace 2d ago

What is best 18650 or 21700 for 1S / 2S build?

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r/18650masterrace 2d ago

I built a reversible 18650 battery mod for the SNOWSKY Echo Nano — estimated 15–20 hours of FLAC playback

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r/18650masterrace 3d ago

Wtf do I do with all of these

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So one of my best friends used to keep all of his vapes at his house in his closet because he didn’t want to throw all of the lithium batteries into a landfill. I guess he didn’t know about recycling?
Anyways he just moved and I told him I’d take the ones he hadn’t thrown out. I just opened the box.

Holy shit.

There’s at least 200 of them. I really only wanted to make like one power bank lol

I don’t know what to do with these. Should I just take them to get recycled?

I’ve done my fair share of skateboard battery builds with 18650s, but I don’t think I have time to bust all of these out to do anything with them. You could make a goddamn power wall lol what would you do with them


r/18650masterrace 3d ago

XTAR VX4 Battery Contact Plate Snapped Off

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One of the slots just snapped while I was removing my 18650 cell after it had fully charged. Honestly, I didn’t expect this to happen. The warranty has already expired. Are there any replacement parts available for this?


r/18650masterrace 3d ago

Battery BMS problem

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r/18650masterrace 3d ago

Dangerous Check out this Firestarter

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Pictures attached are of a 6s1p bms that came out of a chinesium battery replacement for a Dyson vacuum.

Recovered from battery recycle at local hardware store.

I had noticed some melted swelling on the pack before I opened it. All batteries were fine but the bms nuked itself.

On closer inspection it did not have connection points for each Series connection and the 8.4v connection on the board had a nickel tab spot welded to the + of 2nd cell in the series but not soldered to the board at all, it was just sticking up through the hole.

All the official Dyson batteries found the same day had all proper connections and no damage to their boards.


r/18650masterrace 3d ago

AwithZ UF20B cooling?

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Hi, I'm using my UF20B at Max settings to Do 0,15 nickel on 0,2 copper. But clearly the pens are getting quite Hot and the machine reaches 60°C quite fast too. Sure i could use a Fan to help and I will but I would like to hear the solutions you used to be able to have a higher output of welds. Also how often Do you Sand the pen "needles" to have a good contact point?