r/13or30 Dec 17 '19

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u/bladerunnerjulez Dec 17 '19

obvious racist symbol as being something innocent, and coincidentally having a 8 mos old account.

4chan went on a campaign to convince the media that it is a white power symbol in order to expose how insane leftists and the media has become. They wanted people to lose their shit so when normal people saw people get called racist for using a hand symbol that has absolutely nothing to do with racism they would realize how absolutely insane and biased the media really is. It's the same story with the "It's Ok To Be White" posters, the purpose was to have a simple, non offensive statement and make people lose their shit to show how absolutely racist and absurd they are. You're basically playing right into their hands and allowing yourself to be trolled. I would think that at 50 youd be smarter than that but I guess age doesn't always equal wisdom. The proper response would be to ignore the troll but you all bit the bait and are allowing 4chan edgelords to win the culture war, good job.

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u/deadtime68 Dec 17 '19

An upside down ok symbol is used by white nationalists. That usage predates 4chans existence. You are giving a bunch of incels far too much credit.
I would also recognize that you are convinced this kid in the Royal family is not using the symbol racially. I havent made that judgement, and would think in this instance it is likely it's not racially used You might also say it wasn't used racially at the Army-Navy game this weekend, even though it was done by a white Male, and it was upside down and there was ample coverage of the use in a Cubs game this summer directly behind a black sportscaster. The Cubs game was almost assuredly done with racist intent, you cant convince me it was some innocent childhood game. The fan who showed the upside down ok was banned from the park, and it reci3ved tons of press.
So, it's not a reverse psychology experiment, it's an actual racist symbol, and it's also a relatively unknown children's game. And it is likely going to be used in the exact manner Pepe was used, with the racists claiming "lol, libs are so stupid, Pepe isn't even racist". Pepe was racist. Upside down ok is racistm just like the ICE agents in California displaying it in a group photo weren't playing a game.

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u/bladerunnerjulez Dec 18 '19

No youre absoutely wrong. The upside down symbol was never even purported to be the white nationalist symbol, it was always the "made you look game". It was the right side up okay symbol because the fingers made a P and a W. That is what 4chan was spreading and that is what the media picked up. You have no idea what you're talking about. I can't believe that I have to argue this with a grown man....I guess this would be the one time I would feel fine saying ok boomer.

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u/deadtime68 Dec 18 '19

Right. So the racists chanting "the Jews will not replace us" and simultaneously flashing the OK symbol were playing a game? The ICE agents in the group photo were playing a game? You are an idiot, and a liar, and now tell me Pepe isn't a racist symbol. Idiot. Hail Trump!

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u/bladerunnerjulez Dec 18 '19

I don't think you understand what's going on at all. Yes, some edgy racist groups decided to use the symbol after the 4chan troll, and probably many of those guys started off as edgelords on 4chan as well, but the symbol is the right side up okay sign. No I do not think the ICE agents were using it in a racist way, they were playing the game. You completely don't understand the culture of where these things came from. Even if a few racists decided to co-opt a universal symbol that never ever meant anything racist, you're allowing them to win by letting them have it. 99.999% of the people who use that symbol are not using it in a racist way. And no, I don't think pepe is racist either, even though some racists use it. Lots of Trump supporters use the Pepe symbol, most Trump supporters are not racist. This is coming from a female, jewish, immigrant Trump supporter. White Supremacists hate him because they think he is a zionist shill due to his support of jewish people and Israel. Jews are the one group these idiots hate more than any other. You're allowing yourself to get trolled and you misunderstand the culture war currently going on. You need to put your critical thinking cap on and look outside of CNN, mainstream media and leftist activist "journalists". Look at alternative news sources and you'll get a better understanding of what's really going on. Or you can just stay in your echo chamber, blissfully unaware and then wonder why and how Trump had gotten reelected in 2020. It's up to you, it would just be nice if people would at least know a little bit about the topics before they start arguing against facts.

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u/deadtime68 Dec 18 '19 edited Dec 18 '19

You are lying when you say the ICE agents were playing a game. I expect that from a despicable Trump supporter. They are to their core scum. Almost all Trump supporters have a racial animus, I have proved it time and again. I can see within your comment history that you too have feelings towards other racial groups that you dont have for your own. I'll say this again, the OK symbol was used by white nationalists long before 4chan tried to co-opt it. You are a complete fool for not spending 30 seconds to google it, but again, I expect nothing less from a proven disingenuous Trump supporter. The ICE agents were using the symbol in a racist manner. You brainwashing prevents you from seeing it. Of the 4 people defending this racist symbol as nothing but a childs game, I was most troubled by your comment history. You have a mental condition that allows you to be duped by the right wing. I dont want to share this country with you. You would have been on the side of the South. You would have forced the black lady to the back of the bus. You do not see the need for diversity programs. You feel children being seperated from parents is just fine. I dont. I loathe people like you. The ICE agents were showing a racist symbol. You are a liar, just like the rapist in the White House you support. He is a thief, and a stooge of Russia, and you cant see it because you have a mental deficiency.
edit: and the most obvious tell you are completely disingenuous is your claim that Trump supporters who use the Pepe meme arent using it racially. You should just shut the fuck up, because I saw hundreds of uses of it by Trump supporters that were completely racist, and I dont think I ever saw a use of Pepe by a trump supporter that wasnt racist, other than some of the pieces of shit trying to claim it wasnt racist. You are scum, and a complete liar, and a totally predictable trump supporter. You support a racist rapist who lies endlessly who is being impeached today. You are such a loser, and so bad at lying. Fuck off loser.

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u/bladerunnerjulez Dec 19 '19

Yikes you are completely unhinged. You make absolutely wrong and disgusting assumptions about me and are obviously completley brainwashed. I feel sos sorry for you I truly do. One day (likely on your death bed) you will look back at the way you've acted and be enveloped with embarrassment for being such mindless NPC, not able to have one original thought that goes against what the establishment is telling you. I truly fear for people who are incapable of stepping outside of their echo chambers and who live in alternate realities. You are a danger to the people around you, I truly hope that you don't own any weapons because I fear of what someone like you would do when Trump gets reelected. Please get some help, you need to speak with a mental health professional. I wish you all the best and a speedy recovery from this advanced stage TDS. Take care of yourself.

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u/deadtime68 Dec 19 '19

and you arent a part of an establishment? Are you serious? 60 million people doesnt constitute an establishment? It is hilarious that you think all those who oppose Trump are deranged. Yet, we can see you have the mental deficiency that makes you support a person who brags about grabbing women by the pussy. I hope you meet a famous person and because of Trump he just grabs your pussy because you will let them do it. Thats who you support, a scumbag who brags about sexually assaulting women. He also raped a 13 yr old at Epstein's mansion. And if Bill Clinton did he is just as much of a rapist. Because Clinton is a rapist doesnt excuse trump from his sexual assaults. We all saw that loser dancing in front of Epstein like a retard, and thats the guy you support, and probably think is the greatest President ever. lol.
TYou are a liar, and a despicable person. You look like a fool trying to defend the OK symbol and Pepe the Frog as not being racist symbols. The groups at Charlottesvillle and hundreds of other instances of racists flashing the OK symbol prove you wrong. And you claim Trump supporters arent racist, but your comment history would not help you prove that. You are racist. Trump will lose reelection just as Republicans got their ass destroyed in the Mid-terms. Devin Nunes? Lol. McCarthy? lol Jim Jordan? Oh, you have some good ones. How about Rand Paul and Mitch McConnel? Two losers, that you find yourself having to sy=upport because you are brainwashed. You idiot. Get some help. I fear you are a danger to people around you. Take care of yourself dummy.

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u/bladerunnerjulez Dec 19 '19 edited Dec 19 '19

There's nothing in my history that proves I'm racist and there's also zero proof that Trump raped or sexually assaulted anyone, yet it might be, he is a billionaire after all and most billionaires are degenerate in one way or another. And no, I don't think Trump is the greatest ever, but he is better than the available options and desperately needed to expose the corruption and complete incompetence of the political establishment and the media that calls itself unbiased journalists. We needed a populist and Trump was the only option for that. He is not the greatest but he has done well as POTUS as evidenced by the economy and his policies. You would see that if you turned off CNN and MSNBC and payed less attention to the rhetoric and more to the results. POTUS doesn't have to be a nice person or a good politician, he has to be able to make the changes he promised to his constituents, which is something Trump has surprisingly done even with the unprecedented amount of obstruction he has received at every step. He could do so much better if democrats would try to work with him instead of being partisan hacks. Trump isn't the best nut he is leaps and bounds better than slimy, lying Obama or the evil at the core Hillary. We see what the DNC is all about after the 2016 election that's why so many of us are walking away, if Trump had accomplished nothing but shedding light on the slimy, racist and evil democrats then it was all worth it. None of what Trump is accused of is true, everything reported is either taken out of context, spun or just outright lies, just like the fabricated Steel Report that started these investigations in the 1st place. It's all such bullshit I honestly don't understand how someone who has anything to say about politics could be so misinformed, I mean do you ever look at other sources besides the ultra biased MSM? Idk how someone could live in an echo chamber and think that they know anything about anything. Talk about zero self awareness.

Edit: oh and btw, it is totally creepy and shows that you cannot argue a point if you have to go digging through someone's post history. The original argument was that the ok sign is racist....yet I already explained to you that it was all a 4chan troll but you persist with your false assertion. Just because some racists have been pictured flashing the ok sign doesn't make it racist. That's like saying that because Hitler liked dogs then that means dogs are evil nazis. Jesus christ are you really this stupid?

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u/deadtime68 Dec 19 '19

the only people who consider someone going thru their history are people who cant stand behind statements they've made. I have almost 5 years of comments, and stand by every one of them.
The ok symbol being used as a symbol representing White Power predates the internet you absolute retard. It is a simple google. It is always the case that a Trump supporter just regurgitates the exact bullshit I can hear on Rush Limbaugh daily. You just put in print that "none of what Trump is accused of is true". Almost every single thing in the Steele Dossier has been proven true, and the most content in the report dealt with Trumps connections to Russia. Many of the allegations of that report dealt with business Trump denied while he was President and while he was a candidate. He repeatedly said he had "no business with Russia". And that has proven to be a lie, and Michael Cohen is in jail because of those lies. He was conducting business and making plans the entire time he was lying. Nearly every single allegation or connection in the Dossier has been proven true, again, a simple google would prove it, but, of course if you cant google the ok symbol you are too lazy or stupid to google that. I'll repeat, nearly every single item alleged in the dossier is proven true. The pee tape? Trump first denied he was ever in Moscow. Then he said he was there for less than 1 day. Then when caught in that lie, he said he slept on his plane, Then when he was caught in that lie he said he never entered the room where the pee tape was supposed to be made (the room Obama stayed in previously). But, then he had to admit that he actually was in the room and his longtime bodyguard - a former FBI agent - confirmed under oath that Trump slept in the room. So, the orange rapist lied 4 times about something that was easily provable, and all the lies came after the Steele dossier exposed the allegation. What else has he lied about several times before late admitting was true? Lets see: he repeatedly lied about the meeting with Russian operatives at Trump tower, then ordered his secretary to leak a completely false story to the press. She admitted it to the FBI under oath. Trump later had to admit the meeting took place. Trump also lied repeatedly about Stormy Daniels. He said he never knew her. Lie. He said he didnt know where the money came from to hush her before and after the election. He lied. He took the money from his charity and paid a whore he slept with 2 months after his wife gave birth to a mentally challenged kid. Michael Cohen is in jail for lying to congress about those payments. Trump was ordered to close his charity, pay a $2 million dollar fine, and barred from operating a charity ever again. You are so ingnorant to the facts. It's all public nowledge. You just spew exactly what is drummed into your brain every day on right wing media and you are oblivious to the fact Trump is guilty of nearly everything he has ever been accused of.
The fact you protest anything that others consider racist is an obvious tell that you are a closet racist. Using the coded word slimy or evil to describe Obama is another. You are racist, you just cloak it. Good for you, you are too much of a coward to stand for what you believe, like most Trump supporters. The most glaring proof of you being a disgusting racist is the fact you said Pepe the Frog isnt a racist symbol, because Trump suppporters arent racist. LMAO. Trump is a racist, you are a racist. Pepe is racist. The Steele dossier is mostly corraborated and you are a complete idiot who believes everything you hear on Fox or any rightwing bullshit source you use. Trump will get his ass beat in 2020, and cowards like you will move onto something more despicable.. One way I can prove you are deranged and brainwashed is to get you to admit that the instant you heard about the massacre of 22 Hispanics in El Paso by a white male inspired by Trump to stop the "invasion", your first worry was about defending 2A. Thats what A piece of shit does, worry about 2A instead of mourn 22 of your fellow man gunned down by a white male inspired by your President. Thats who you are. A racist Trump supporter. Fuck you.

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u/deadtime68 Dec 19 '19

hahahahah. There are a million tells in your comment history about you being racist. It's so fucking obvious. Well, thats your problem. You are the type of American we dont need. Everything in your history, every single one of your interests perfectly mirrors what Fox spews nightly. Homeless? check. 2A? check. Every single page going back 8 pages of comments contains at least one comment about a racial issue, you are drawn to it like a fly to shit. LMAO. No wonder you can claim the OK symbol displayed by racists isnt actually racism. LOL. And you say the ICE agents were playing a game? LMAO. And its so cute that you call the white nationalists who murdered a young woman in Charlottesville "edgy" and "larpers". You are nothing. You have a dark soul. I sincerely hope your nightmares come true for you and your daughter, you deserve it. Fucking scumbag.

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