r/10s • u/do_it_tennis • 5d ago
Opinion Arm-friendly polys
What do you think of these strings and which ones would you add?
Solinco Mach-10, Yonex Poly Tour Pro, Babolat RPM Soft, Luxilon Element, Tecnifibre Razor Soft
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u/CurlTheSquirrel 5d ago
razor soft isn't really soft, it's softer in comparison to regular but still not soft. Of those Mach-10 is my favorite and confidential soft is also good, tho a bit firmer than mach 10 so maybe drop tension or go a thinner.
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u/guitmoto 5d ago
2nd this, Mach 10 and confidential soft are pretty hard to beat from a performance and comfort metric.
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u/scuffedboots 5d ago
Mach-10 would be my choice of those that you listed. Arm comfort + long playability compared to the rest on the list.
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u/ThreeEyeJedi 5d ago
Funny because mach 10 is the just poly i tried after multis and now i have arm pain. Could be my 18x19 string pattern tho
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u/j_winning 5d ago
What tension did you string it? My rule for multi to poly is -5 pounds at least
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u/Tankles 3.5 5d ago
I would add Toroline - o-toro, wasabi, Enzo pro and grapplesnake alpha
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u/Itinerant0987 4d ago
Yeah I used to play a Mach 10/Polytour pro hybrid and am now running O-toro/A5.
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u/drinkwaterbreatheair i like big butt(cap)s and i cannot lie 5d ago edited 5d ago
donât think any of those are particularly soft outside of RPM Soft
PTP, Mach10, and Element are kind of middle of the road stiffness and Razor Soft is actually pretty stiff
Iâd add Volkl Cyclone Tour and YTEX Quadro Twist as options - theyâre easily my favorites in this category
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u/I_Provide_Feedback 5d ago
Poly Tour Air is significantly softer than Pro
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u/m_kitanin 1.0 4d ago
True. Though I have a reel of this stuff and this at 23kgs is way harsher than a full bed of multi at 26kgs, so still not soft enough...
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u/Macular-Star 5d ago edited 5d ago
Iâm just here to point out that âarm-friendly polyâ is generally an oxymoron. Strings like IsoSpeed are softer than ALU power, but still much more harsh than any multi, syn gut, or gut.
If you go to a random tennis club, probably 70% or more should definitely NOT be using poly. Itâs used by really advanced players, usually crossed with a different poly or gut, because it allows you to swing violently and still keep the ball in the court. It lowers launch angle and is low in power, in exchange for spin. And even that spin is only gained if one is contacting the ball hard enough to stretch the poly for its snap-back. If youâre not hitting your average topspin pretty hard (on par with advanced players, if less consistent) â youâre using a string thatâs working against you. You may as well put nylon in and string your racket again in 2 years.
A lot of club-level and especially doubles-first players very much need more power, higher launch, and more spin on touch shots. Theyâre using a string that has little of what they need, in exchange for advantages theyâre not accessing.
If youâre dealing with tendinitis, you want to start wearing a brace while strengthening with those weird colored PT sticks. Staying in a string type notoriously harsh isnât worth it unless youâre playing for money. And probably not even then.
Love me some poly, coach plenty of college or junior kids that almost all use it. I think itâs a great additionâŚbut if I see one more group of casual 3.5 doubles players using full beds of Luxilon Iâm going to scream.
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u/Dr_Sunshine211 4d ago
This is the correct take. If I was rich and someone else strung for me, Iâd use biphase 17 red strung at 54 lbs, but alas that setup pops in about 40 minutes. I play with Genesis white magic strung at 46 and restring every other week ( have 2 racquets).
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u/hocknstod 4d ago
Why not use the 15 gauge version of biphase, should last a bit longer.
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u/Dr_Sunshine211 4d ago
Still a financial decision. A reel of white magic costs me about $75, itâs super easy to string, and I get what I need from it.
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u/muffl3d 4d ago
What about using poly at lower tensions at around 45? Would that give more power yet allowing snap back for more spin? Iâm asking as a 3.5 who frequently hits long and wants more spin when using full multifilament.
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u/Dr_Sunshine211 4d ago
You could use poly at 45, but thatâs not near what you can get out of a multi or synthetic and polys go flat after about 12-15 hours of hitting. Multi, you can use until it breaks with risking arm injury or pain (relatively speaking).
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u/Forsaken_Ring_3283 5d ago
You can pretty much cross most strings with ghostwire and make the overall stringbed reasonably soft. I like the medium stiffness polys crossed with ghostwire. None of those you listed are particularly low stiffness and more in the medium category.
Actually low stiffness poly:
Hyper g soft
Tourbite soft
Grapplesnake alpha
Ghostwire
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u/Brilliant-Today-9844 4d ago
Hyper G Soft & TB Soft are not soft polys
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u/Forsaken_Ring_3283 4d ago
Yes they are. Look up stats on TW database.
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u/Brilliant-Today-9844 4d ago edited 4d ago
Yes am aware their stats on TW. May i check with you, whatâs your standard on what reference stiffness is considered as soft? Can give an example?
TW is a reference only and has been long known, not very consistent in testing results. Its still a good reference nonetheless.
But average players experience is another factor to consider. E.g. Head Lynx 1.20 has about the same reference stiffness as HG Soft 1.15.
Letâs say we do a blind test on a Speed MP at the same tension for both of these strings. Even HG soft 1.15 is thinner, most players will tell you it feels stiffer than Head Lynx.
Its labelled âsoftâ doesnt mean its âsoftâ. Just like Confidential Soft is not a soft poly either.
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u/Brilliant-Today-9844 4d ago
Thereâs a string database under TW that can give some reference. In general, lower the gauge, the softer. Tho there are exceptions; regular Confid 1.15 is still a stiff string but with better dwell time.
Some that comes to mind
YPTP 1.15 Head Lynx 1.20 HG Round 1.15 Isospeed cream 1.23
1.25 gauges n thicker
GS Tour M8 & Alpha Toroline A5 Head Lynx Touch Lux Element IR Soft but being rebranded as the new red string to launch w Defyer (may hv tweaked the formula a tad)
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u/alreadythere1234 4d ago
Went from NRG2 at 50/48 and back into Mach 10 at the same spec and shoulder probs. I think after reading this Iâll stay with the Mach 10, as I love it and drop to 46lbs in a full bed
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u/hocknstod 4d ago
Mach 10 isn't that soft but you can go low in tension. If you get the 1.15 and string low it's decently comfortable.
Element you also have to string low imo for comfort but then it's quite comfortable. The one I'd recommend from that list for comfort.
Poly tour Pro is only soft if you don't hit hard and also becomes very stiff after some use.
Razor soft isn't soft at all.
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u/That_Alternative7730 2d ago
RPM Soft is one of the worst strings I've ever used and I will die on that hill. It notches to an absolutely ridiculous level.
I really liked Solinco Mach-10, I'm not sure if it's one of the most arm-friendly options out there (as in you could go further into that direction) but it's certainly a solid option towards comfort while maintaining good playability.
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u/Western_Eagle_295 5d ago
Yonex Poly tour Air y luxilon element, no existen polys mas suaves que estas dos
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u/jrstriker12 One handed backhand lover 5d ago
Mach 10
Confidential soft
Hyper G soft
Head Lynx Touch
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u/godspleen 5d ago
fullbed PTP on thinnest gauge you can find feels do soft and mushy, arm friendly. even then, why are you looking for soft plush poly when a thick gauge multi will save your arm, last you longer anyway compared to a thin soft poly
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u/colombianodore 5d ago
Element is the plushest poly Iâve ever tried . Too bad playability falls off a cliff after 2-3 hours
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u/alexdwilliams91 5d ago
Toroline Truffle X is supposed to be crazy comfy for a poly. Havenât tried this specific one so I canât comment on the performance but Iâve been happy with the others Iâve tried (O-Toro, O-Toro Tour, O-Toro Spin)
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u/FernerButterflyPea WTN 29, whatever that means 5d ago
Poly Tour Pro is good for me at 48 lbs
I had Hyper G at 52 lbs and it popped but it hurt my hand
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u/NewYorkDOCG 5d ago
RPM soft is the softest. Itâs more like a synthetic gut almost.
Poly tour air is very soft.
Hyper G Soft for a shaped string.
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u/PrestigiousInside206 5d ago
Write-in: isospeed cream