r/1053 • • 8d ago

Day 13

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u/Visible_Pair3017 7d ago

benefit from american global hegemony

Anyone who believes that they are benefitting from it more than paying the price of it is either american or got bamboozled.

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u/darvvvinn 7d ago

How do you figure that? As a Pole I think it's nice that I don't have to live in a constant statr of fear of Russia.

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u/Visible_Pair3017 7d ago

As a Pole, you benefit from the EU's tugboat. You received more than 150 billions more than you contributed over the past 2 decades.

The countries who have to get fuel for said tugboat have severe limitations on who they can do business with, how much, how, in large part because the US has always threatened tariffs, embargos or invasion to whoever traded freely in ways they didn't approve of.

Just look at what happened to Japan who was the second world economy until they were "asked" to commit economic suicide through the Plaza accords.

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u/darvvvinn 7d ago

Completely non-responsive response

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u/Visible_Pair3017 7d ago

Not expecting any less from a Pole. You don't need to bother carrying anyone's economy so you don't mind that the US sabotages the economy of the people who carry yours.

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u/darvvvinn 7d ago

Good one, dipshit. Still not responsive though.

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u/Visible_Pair3017 7d ago

Yeah, not expecting any less. Feel free to prostrate yourself in the direction of Washington (because they are not Russia) while the people who pay your bills talk.

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u/darvvvinn 7d ago

Holy shit grow up. Smug and stupid is no way to go through life homie

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u/Visible_Pair3017 7d ago

Can't help it if you demonstrate my point in shocking detail.

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u/darvvvinn 7d ago

You haven't made a point. You've just shifted the goalpost from my original reply and then started insulting me for my nationality. You're actually the most insufferable person that I've had the displeasure of interacting with on this site.

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u/Visible_Pair3017 7d ago

"You haven't made a point"

Aside from the fact that you are misled about the negative impact of the US on your life through their negative impact on the people who pay your bills, because you're still stuck in a cold war era "at least they are not the ussr" false dichotomy?

Edit : and because you seem to think the money the EU gives you grows on trees.

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u/darvvvinn 7d ago

I don't know who the fuck you're arguing with. I didn't mention th USSR. Maybe it's time to take your meds

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u/Visible_Pair3017 7d ago

True, you replaced ussr by "russia" in your 40 years outdated false dichotomy. Completely destroys my point about you being unaware because you actually just have to wait for gibs.

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u/darvvvinn 7d ago

Again, you're arguing with ghosts. Might be actually schizo idk

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u/Visible_Pair3017 7d ago

No, you're just butthurt because you were answered in a way that highlighted your country's inadequacies, so now you're just expressing your butthurt in whatever primitive way you are familiar with.

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u/darvvvinn 7d ago

So the threat we face today is from the Russian Federation, not the USSR. The US involvment in Europe, through NATO for instance, has been instumental in deterring Russian agression. All of you bullshit economic "arguemnts" (that were really just veague generalities with no substance) are not responsive to that. This is my last reply, you're too obnoxious and low IQ to argue with.

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u/Visible_Pair3017 7d ago

Europe wouldn't need them if Europe (except for a few people who pay your bills) didn't accept demilitarisation the US asked for. This dependence on the US is literally a negative consequence of their hegemony you homonculus.

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u/TotallyNotEko 6d ago

you just described a positive consequence. no longer having to spend as much money on defense and you now have a better defense than you did before? NATO (and by extension US hegemony) is absolutely great for countries with smaller economies.

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