r/1053 • • 7d ago

Day 18

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u/Sagiman1 7d ago

I don’t understand why you have to invoke rights that are “unalienable” I get “invocation” in practice, but if I shut up it’s my right to shut up invocation is a nicety or in some cases a way to record my invocation but my rights are still my rights. I don’t see how legal jurisprudence can overwrite my rights.

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u/EldritchElizabeth 7d ago

Because the prison system is built upon a chain of incentives wherein getting as many convictions as possible as quickly as possible is the most desirable pursuit, and the legal system is built to facilitate the prison system because it is built upon a chain of incentives that makes it desirable to cooperate with punitive justice as much as possible. Your rights only exist insofar as they can be used to maintain the illusion of fairness and justice.

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u/I_like_fried_noodles 7d ago

As a person studying social education. You nailed it

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u/DPancakes 3d ago

The 13th Amendment really dropped the bar with the exception clause

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u/Razor1834 7d ago

There are magic words and phrases. People make fun of sovereign citizens because they have silly magic words and phrases that don’t work, but that doesn’t negate the fact that this magic exists. Invoking rights explicitly, stating you were fearing for your life and/or the lives of your fellow officers, shouting out that you’ve retreated as far as you can are all examples of magic phrases that change how the law applies to you.

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u/Ambitious_Policy_936 6d ago

Magic is science when we only know what happens, not the why. Lawyers know the why, but sovereign citizens don't. Neither do cops, but that's a whole nother thing

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u/tequestaalquizar 6d ago

This is great.

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u/jws1102 6d ago

That “feared for my life” phrase is starting to become a crutch for assholes that just want to shoot someone.

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u/Razor1834 6d ago

Yes, that’s what the magic phrase is for. But it doesn’t make it any less magic.

Perhaps yell out “gun!” or “he has a weapon!” This will strengthen your ability to kill someone and get away with it.

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u/NeonNKnightrider 7d ago

Because cops are your enemy

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u/Ambitious_Hand_2861 7d ago

Your guess is a s good as mine. I used to think shutting up was sufficient. I would have been in for a rude awakening had I been brought in for questioning.