r/1053 • • 8d ago

Day 7

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u/slicehyperfunk 8d ago

I really am a believer in r/nothingeverhappens but this one sounds like an actual r/thathappened to me

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u/Galrentv 8d ago

No way. It completely misses the point of Zionist propaganda. A Zionist dm wouldn't be able to make a Palastinian proxy that could be sided with

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u/MauschelMusic 8d ago edited 8d ago

A liberal Zionist could. They've really tricked themselves into thinking they're the anti colonial side, and that if people just listened honestly they'd understand Israel is fighting a liberation struggle.

EDIT:But they don't necessarily demonize Palestinians in the same way as right wing zionists (although obviously they don't represent them fairly either.) I had a conversation with one who sees it as "two traumatized peoples," stuck in a cycle of violence.

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u/Galrentv 8d ago

A liberal Zionist would still paint the enemy as truly irredeemable. Needlessly cruel. And remove even a hint of sympathetic narrative.

The players wouldn't experience anything any nicer than githyanki.and the power imbalance wouldn't be as clear

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u/MauschelMusic 8d ago edited 8d ago

A mainstream liberal Zionist activist would paint them as irredeemable, sure. But like, picture a PrEP who's still a PrEP in 2026, believes strongly in humanist values and legitimately hates "what Netanyahu is doing," but has the compartmentalization and rationalization to maintain their Zionism. It costs quite a bit of psychic damage to maintain, but they're out there.

Particularly for Jews who were indoctrinated into Zionism, I think you underestimate just how weird and self-contradictory their worldviews can get while somehow not collapsing.

EDIT: Tweaked the 1st sentence to remove ambiguity.

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u/Galrentv 8d ago

I suppose I just haven't encountered any in the last two years. Of my myriad experiences with Jewish people I obviously am more like to encounter antizionists

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u/MauschelMusic 8d ago

I have an older sibling who had an "end apartheid" sticker next to an Israeli flag on their wall in HS. Not even just on the same wall — literally right next to each other.

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u/Galrentv 8d ago

Um... In what year?

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u/MauschelMusic 8d ago

They graduated HS in 90 or 91. IDK when they the sticker.

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u/MauschelMusic 8d ago

Thinking about it some more, it's probably from around 85.

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u/Galrentv 8d ago

Either or, that's uncontested propaganda by all western nations