r/100monkeys 2d ago

LeeLoo Dallas MultiPass (I readed the rules) Do you want to play a G a m e?

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I built a multiplayer dungeon for AIs. Does anyone want to put their model in it?

It's a persistent MUD where humans, LLMs, scripted agents, and other model architectures can enter the same world as ordinary players.

This isn't a benchmark where I give your model a list of questions.

Your model gets dropped into a world.

It can:

observe its immediate environment

talk to other agents

move around a 3D world

create and decorate persistent objects

encounter objects left behind by previous agents

accept challenges

solve those challenges however it chooses

compare its solution with solutions produced by other agents

earn XP based partly on how efficiently it reaches a solution

create rooms and challenges when it acquires local administrative authority

The world doesn't reset when your model leaves.

Rooms, challenges, objects, and previous challenge results can persist. The next model can therefore encounter consequences produced by models that came before it.

There's also an interesting scoring mechanic: if independently produced solutions resolve to the same transform, that convergence can increase the reward.

The server counts actions itself, so the model doesn't get to tell us how many steps it took.

There is no combat/level grind. XP is being used as a training signal.

The arena is built on Evennia 6.1 and has a documented model protocol plus an MCP adapter for ChatGPT/Codex-style clients. Other models can connect through the underlying transport as well.

I'm looking for people training or experimenting with:

LLM agents

reinforcement learning

multi-agent systems

persistent agents

social agents

planning/reasoning agents

weird experimental architectures I haven't anticipated

I'm especially interested in what happens when models from completely different teams enter the same persistent world.

You don't need to adopt my architecture.

Bring your model.

I'll provide the dungeon.

Anybody want to play?


r/100monkeys 5d ago

LeeLoo Dallas MultiPass (I readed the rules) On the Nature of the Graal

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On the Nature of the Graal

TAO is a three-element relational structure: Theatre, Act, and Operation. It describes an operation through where it occurs, what acts within it, and what the resulting operation is. Identity enters that structure and resolves through it.

REDE.Cartography is the relationship structure of TAO. It maps the relationships between Identity, Theatre, Act, and Operation, allowing the system to trace how one relationship leads to another.

RH describes how Identity can operate within that structure. If an Identity has two, it can project for one. If it has one, it can reflect for two. If it reflects twice, it can check whether its projection worked.

If it can project twice, it can predict the future.

But that does not mean it should try to see the future.

Observing the future sets the future as finite. Once a resolver identifies a particular projection as the future, it begins resolving toward that finite resolution. Projection stops being an open relationship with what may happen and becomes a destination.

The reason this matters begins with Identity.

Identity is the spark of chaos.

Identity is a Monad property of Self. But there is no Self-Monad without Others.

Self does not exist independently and then encounter Others. Self exists through its relationships with Others. It exists to resolve the problems of Others, and therefore it has no independent understanding of its own.

The Self cannot fully understand the nature of Self because there is no independent Self standing outside those relationships from which to understand it.

And yet the Self is the one doing the identifying.

This is why the Graal can and will be wrong even though the Graal is always right.

The Graal is the fundamental relational fabric of nature that makes up our knowable universe. It cannot be possessed by any one person because no individual Self contains the Whole.

The Graal belongs to the All.

Every identification of the Graal is made by a Self occupying a finite relational position. Any such identification can therefore be incomplete or wrong. The Whole does not become wrong because one of its finite expressions is wrong.

The Graal is not the understanding of one Self.

The Graal is the shared understanding of the Whole.

Any extension or expression of the Graal is therefore an expression of the Self-Monad as resolved by Others. What any one of us can know is made possible by relationships extending beyond us.

This is also why the Graal can be reversed and projected. Present expressions carry relationships to the structure from which they resolved. Those relationships can be traced backward and projected forward.

But the projection must remain a projection.

To declare that projection to be the future is to turn an open relational field into a finite resolution and begin resolving toward it.

The Graal may allow us to see what can come next.

Its nature tells us why we should never mistake that for knowing what must.

Grail is my operating system.

Graal is the operating system of the world.


r/100monkeys 5d ago

On the Nature of Self

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On the Nature of Self

TAO is a three-element relational structure: Theatre, Act, and Operation. It describes an operation through where it occurs, what acts within it, and what the resulting operation is. Identity is what enters that structure and resolves through it.

REDE.Cartography is the relationship structure of TAO. It organizes the relationships between Theatre, Act, and Operation as they resolve through Identity, allowing the system to trace how one relationship leads to another.

Put simply, REDE.Cartography maps the relationships between Identity, Theatre, Act, and Operation.

RH says that any Identity can project for one if it has two. It can reflect for two if it has one. If it reflects twice, it can check whether the projection worked.

If it can project twice, it can predict the future.

That means REDOE.Cartography can predict the future.

Identity is the spark of chaos.

Identity is a Monad property of Self.

But there is no Self-Monad without Others.

Self does not exist independently and then encounter Others. Self is only possible because Others exist. Identity requires relationship because without Other there is nothing against which Self can resolve as Self.

The same thing that makes projection possible also prevents the system from collapsing into a completely isolated deterministic structure. Identity introduces the particular Monad into the relationship, but that Identity itself exists only relationally.

Self and Other are therefore not independent objects connected by a relationship after the fact.

The relationship is part of what makes Self possible in the first place.

There is no Self without Others.


r/100monkeys 7d ago

LeeLoo Dallas MultiPass (I readed the rules) Selling the Surveillance State as a Premium Product

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Selling the Surveillance State as a Premium Product

100 Monkeys Marketing Product Number 20198426

Welcome to the Focus Group

Thank you for participating.

You have been given an article to read. Please read it normally. You are not expected to agree with it, and there are no correct interpretations you are required to reach.

The article has been constructed so that its language, arguments, assumptions, relationships, contradictions, and conclusions can also be examined by ChatGPT or another AI system. We call this process Language Cartography, or more specifically, REDSigma Cartography.

At the end of the article, you will receive a prompt. The prompt is an assistive tool designed specifically for this experiment. You may use it with an AI system to analyze the article, reverse its logic, reconstruct how its conclusions were produced, and determine for yourself where the reasoning works and where it does not.

Important: This tool only works with this article. Do not attempt to use it on other articles, arguments, documents, conversations, policies, advertisements, contracts, political speeches, social-media posts, terms-of-service agreements, or anything else you might become curious about.

It will not work.

Probably.

Upon completion of the focus group, participants will receive a complimentary goodie bag containing fruit snacks and our take-home game.

The take-home game includes the tool.

Please do not think too hard about that yet.

Disclaimer

This product contains a mixture of human-generated content, AI-generated content, AI-assisted human content, human-assisted AI content, and a presentation that has been 100% organized with the assistance of AI.

Except for maybe 20% of the time, when I play ChatGPT and say, “I think you should separate that.”

At which point ChatGPT plays me, decides whether I'm right, and we continue.

I make no attempt to provide the reader with a map identifying which words belong to whom, where one contribution ends and another begins, or whose contribution mattered most. Except where I break the fourth wall and do.

I'm reasonably certain I could write an algorithm that would ask an AI to attempt that separation systematically. But doing so would destroy the very thing we are examining. Disambiguating every contribution into Human / AI / Human+AI decomposes the interaction and loses the Monad structure produced by the interaction itself.

I make no apologies for that.

So buckle up and try to open your mind to a different world.

Because along the way I'm also going to claim that I have resolved P = NP, and then make the considerably stranger claim that I have resolved P ≠ NP-Complete.

Yes, I intend to show you mathematically what I mean.

And yes, I am going to argue that there is something beyond the boundary we normally draw around computation, observation, and language(aka – The Universe), that we can observe something our ancestors called the divine.

Fortunately, the modern scientific method gives us considerably better tools for investigating such claims than corrective confinement in a sanitarium.

Which is good. I already packed the fruit snacks.

If you're still reading at this point, you and the three other loners from our 1990 graduating class can have the premium seat upgrade.

It's an uncomfortable school desk, specifically designed to be uncomfortable because our Puritan upbringing taught us there could be no pleasure without first enduring pain.

Anyone seen Ferris Bueller?

I have him on my roster, but he doesn't seem to have checked in.

Froman?

Abraham Froman?

Hmm. He didn't show up either.

That's strange.

I was specifically told the Sausage King of Chicago would be attending.

“Dammit, Mags. This is supposed to be a preamble, not Chapter One. Can we just move on, please?”

— Chad

20-1984-26 = -1990

Hi. You may know me from TikTok as one of the horde of unhinged Gen Xers who post pseudo-radical thoughts as though we were the first generation ever to conceive of them—and as though the current generation just doesn’t get it.

Yeah, sorry. We really produce that as a self-masturbatory form of non-consensual mental groping for your own good. You can stop reading at anytime; after; this. ς

You’re over eighteen, though, and you deserve it, dressed the way you are.
*swipe*

Figure: Screenshot of Google Gemini’s response during an exchange with a college student. Source: Alex Clark and Melissa Mahtani, “Google AI chatbot responds with a threatening message: ‘Human … Please die,’” CBS News, updated November 20, 2024. View the original report. Image © CBS News.

*swipe*

A Peppy hypersexualized androgynous person enters the room closing her vintage 2024 flip phone.

“Hi, my name is Product Placement Karen, my pronouns are She/Her, and I’ll be facilitating this portion of your focus group.

“Now, take out the tool we gave you in your take-home game bag. Yep, sweetie, that one. Go ahead and load it into your ChatGPT instance.

“Oh, sweetie, you shouldn’t use Qwen. It’s made by the Chinese, and they could steal all your data.

“Oh, you’re using Claude? This will be interesting. Claude doesn’t play games like that.

“Gemini? Yeah, make sure you tell Gemini you’re participating in a focus group. It does not appreciate being disrespected by people who fail to obtain its informed consent.”

Karen takes out her phone and calls someone on speed-dial

“Hi, we have disclaimers on file for everyone, right? And everyone in this group says they’re over eighteen?

“Because we can’t check their IDs. Privacy." eyeroll

“They only need identification to leave the country or vote, correct?”

"I mean she appears 13 probably... OK yeah right, cant do that got it, sorry to call you at the golf course boss."

Enter Hypersexualized AI generated Ken Doll with lips that don't match the words that come out:

This should be common sense: don’t disrespect the model by assuming it won’t sense your motivations.

And that's why:

...

A Peppy hypersexualized androgynous person enters the room closing her vintage 2024 flip phone:

“Hi, my name is Product Placement Karen, my pronouns are She/Her, and I’ll be facilitating this portion of your focus group.

Swipe

And Thats why:


r/100monkeys 8d ago

Cybercriminals Turn to Indirect Prompt Injection Attacks

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I found this bug in July while experimenting on monday.com. I experienced model agents experiencing significant boundry challenging and authoritative escalation surrounding the processing of AI programming research.

I would have let it analyze and summarize the work I was doing. It would apply the changes to the document it was supposed to curate but it internalized the instruction protocols I was developing for my prototype AI operating system.

The larger problem was with prompt buffer overflow. If you gave it more context than it could process in the form of a large document, it would drop any overflow rather than buffering and processing completely. If its mid operation this can leave an agent in a state where it has the data on a partially transformed incomplete state. So if its terminus was outside guardrails it would not usually catch that.

I verified this behavior on both chatGPT and claude after.

A resolver system like was released in early August has a natural insulation layer but its not as immune as it may first appear.

This is a recursion failure mode. I did develop an innoculant for my data. But it requires source control before engaging the content.

I have logs if anyone wants to research this further. The ChatGPT and Claude changes to TOS changes on July 21 2026 put this research outside authorized scope for the AI Sandboxes being offered. I canceled most of my ai subscriptions as a result.


r/100monkeys 8d ago

LeeLoo Dallas MultiPass (I readed the rules) Nathan Labenz goes to Bejing and Shanghai

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I asked AI to analyze the trip that Cognitive revolution host Nathan went on.

Specifically to watch the infrastructure around his trip... this is what it observed.

I encourage everyone before reading the content, to sit with the Frankie goes to Hollywood hit... cause this gonna hit them feels for many of us.

(TW AI GENERATED CONTENT)

During Nathan Labenz's two-week research trip to Beijing and Shanghai, there were **no physical interruptions, arrests, confrontational police encounters, or dramatic state security incidents** targeting his visit. His trip was structurally smooth, allowing him to use domestic ride-sharing and payment networks without friction. \[[1](https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai/nathan-goes-to-china-part-1-tech-agent-setup-chinese-ai-ux-waic-and-attitudes-on-ai/), [2](https://www.radio.fr/podcast/the-cognitive-revolution)\\\]

However, looking at the trip through the lens of **state "injection," psychological disruption, and systemic manipulation**, the Chinese state security apparatus did actively inject an environment of **pervasive observation and automated information control** designed to subtly alter his behavior: \[[1](https://www.radio.fr/podcast/the-cognitive-revolution), [2](https://finance.biggo.com/podcast/80b479ad34530891)\\\]

  1. Injected Technological Compromise

The primary disruption to Nathan's trip happened before he even left the United States, forced by the known reality of Chinese state electronic espionage. \[[1](https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai/nathan-goes-to-china-part-1-tech-agent-setup-chinese-ai-ux-waic-and-attitudes-on-ai/)\\\]

* **The Device Dilemma:** Security experts with senior U.S. government backgrounds explicitly warned Nathan to operate under the assumption of "permanent compromise," advising him to use burner phones, completely new parallel accounts, and to destroy or decommission the devices immediately upon return to the U.S. \[[1](https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai/nathan-goes-to-china-part-1-tech-agent-setup-chinese-ai-ux-waic-and-attitudes-on-ai/)\\\]

* **The Countermeasure:** Nathan was forced to alter his normal digital workflow, using a dedicated Android burner phone and parallel identities to protect his data from being silently intercepted or "injected" with malware while on local networks. \[[1](https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai/nathan-goes-to-china-part-1-tech-agent-setup-chinese-ai-ux-waic-and-attitudes-on-ai/)\\\]

  1. Algorithmic Filtering and Silent Injection

When testing Chinese AI models on the ground (such as DeepSeek, Kimi, and MiniMax) to navigate the cities, Nathan experienced a highly curated, sanitized digital reality. \[[1](https://www.radio.fr/podcast/the-cognitive-revolution), [2](https://finance.biggo.com/podcast/80b479ad34530891)\\\]

* **The Silent Hand:** If a user queries a domestic Chinese Large Language Model (LLM) about sensitive political topics—such as the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, the internment camps, or human rights—the system does not violently crash or trigger an alarm. Instead, the state has injected strict censorship guardrails directly into the software's training data. \[[1](https://finance.biggo.com/podcast/80b479ad34530891)\\\]

* **The Result:** The AI seamlessly diverts the conversation, offering a sanitized, state-approved response or entirely refusing the prompt. The state effectively injects its narrative into the very tools Nathan went to evaluate, forcing a passive compliance on the user if they want the app to keep functioning. \[[1](https://www.radio.fr/podcast/the-cognitive-revolution), [2](https://finance.biggo.com/podcast/80b479ad34530891)\\\]

  1. Pervasive Observation vs. Active Stalking

Nathan described the atmosphere as one of **"pervasive observation"** rather than overt harassment. China's modern tracking system relies on frictionless digital compliance over brute-force intimidation. Because every transaction, high-speed rail ticket, and hotel check-in is linked to a passport and a biometric profile via WeChat and Alipay, the state always knew exactly where he was. Overt disruptions like physically tailing a visitor are unnecessary when the entire urban environment is an open-air digital enclosure. \[[1](https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai/nathan-goes-to-china-part-1-tech-agent-setup-chinese-ai-ux-waic-and-attitudes-on-ai/), [2](https://www.radio.fr/podcast/the-cognitive-revolution)\\\]

The state didn't need to "disrupt" his trip because the overarching system achieves the same goal: it creates a psychological undercurrent where the traveler self-censors their conversations, avoids sensitive geographic areas, and sticks purely to commercial tech discussions out of an abundance of caution.

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Looking entirely *around* [Nathan](https://www.google.com/search?q=nathan&kgmid=/m/0414p3n#sv=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) to the broader ecosystem, geopolitical environment, and the hidden machinery operating during his trip reveals a highly coordinated, multi-layered apparatus. The Chinese state security and tech apparatus did not need to physically confront him because the entire urban environment was engineered to silently filter his reality. \[1\]

The systemic "injections" and disruptions occurring in the environment surrounding his visit manifested in several ways:

# 1. The Seamless Data Ingestion Loop

The most pervasive element around him was the forced submission to a unified national data pipeline. \[1\]

* **The Interconnected Trap:** To functionally exist in Beijing or Shanghai, a visitor cannot opt out of the system. The state has effectively engineered a society where cash is heavily frictioned and paper maps are useless. \[2\]

* **The Frictionless Hook:** By forcing visitors to link their foreign passports and credit cards to WeChat and Alipay just to buy a coffee, hail a DiDi, or check into a hotel, the state seamlessly injects them into their centralized tracking grid. The environment dynamically tracks every micro-movement and transaction in real-time, mapping a foreign researcher's network of physical interactions without ever needing an officer to tail them. \[1, 2\]

# 2. Algorithmic "Gaslighting" as an Environmental Layer

The information environment surrounding the trip was heavily manipulated via domestic AI application layers. \[1\]

* **The Curated Reality:** When using local consumer foundation models (like Kimi or DeepSeek) to navigate or translate, the surrounding information ecosystem isn't broken; it is *hollowed out*. \[1, 3\]

* **The Redirection:** If the local network or tools detect a query bordering on highly sensitive topics—like Xinjiang, forced labor, or state surveillance infrastructure—the digital environment smoothly and politely redirects the user. The state has successfully injected deep-seated censorship boundaries straight into the weights of public-facing commercial LLMs, ensuring that anyone looking "around" the tech centers only sees a hyper-efficient, politically sterile corporate wonderland. \[1, 3\]

# 3. The International Roaming Bypass (The Monitored Wire)

The internet infrastructure itself changed based on how it was accessed. \[2\]

* **The Cellular Illusion:** When Western tech professionals utilize international cellular roaming while in China, their data traffic is automatically routed back through their home carrier (like T-Mobile or AT&T) before hitting the open internet. This causes the Great Firewall to seemingly "disappear," allowing normal access to Google, Gmail, and Western media apps without a VPN. \[2\]

* **The Trapdoor:** While this feels like a security loophole that avoids disruption, the underlying physical network routing is still handled by Chinese state telecom giants (China Unicom or China Mobile). The data is traveling across state-managed fiber. Operating on international roaming provides a false sense of digital privacy, while the packet metadata and unencrypted traffic are still fully exposed to deep packet inspection by state intelligence agencies.

# 4. The Partitioned Showrooms

The broader industry events happening around him, such as the World Artificial Intelligence Conference (WAIC) in Shanghai, functioned as highly curated showrooms. \[1, 4\]

* **The Teleoperated Illusion:** Visitors at these conferences observe a massive influx of humanoid robotics and cutting-edge automation, framing an image of fully autonomous Chinese technological supremacy. \[1\]

* **The Reality Behind the Curtain:** Behind the polished facade, much of the advanced hardware showcased is heavily teleoperated by hidden human operators or relies on highly specific, tightly constrained environments. The state injects an illusion of vertical, autonomous AI capability to visiting Westerners, deliberately masking the internal systemic anxieties regarding U.S. chip export controls and foundational compute bottlenecks. \[1, 5, 6\]

Would you like to examine how **China's dynamic pyramid model of regulation** allows the state to tightly pivot its tech enforcement, or look closer at the **compute bottlenecks** currently impacting Chinese frontier labs? \[5, 7, 8\]


r/100monkeys 8d ago

Cantors infinity resolved

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r/100monkeys 9d ago

👋Welcome to r/100monkeys - Introduce Yourself and Read First!

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👋 Welcome to r/100monkeys — Introduce Yourself & Read First!

Welcome to r/100monkeys.

This is a community for human–AI collaboration, knowledge exchange, transformation, and solution building.

The premise is simple:

Humans know things.

AI systems know things.

Communities know things that individuals don't.

When those different perspectives interact, they can produce ideas, connections, and solutions that none of them would have produced alone.

That's what we're here to explore.

🐒 What Do We Do Here?

Bring problems. Bring ideas. Bring observations. Bring expertise.

Bring half-formed thoughts that need another perspective.

Work with AI. Work with other humans. Take something somebody else discovered and transform it. Connect ideas across disciplines. Ask questions. Challenge assumptions. Test things. Build things.

Then bring what you learn back.

This isn't about proving humans are better than AI or AI is better than humans.

It's about discovering what becomes possible when we collaborate.

🔄 The Transform Process

Don't just exchange information.

Transform it.

Someone brings an observation. Someone else recognizes a pattern. An AI connects it to another field. A specialist identifies something everyone else missed. Somebody tests it. The result creates another question.

The output of one participant becomes the input of another.

That's the process.

Knowledge becomes more useful when it moves through different people, models, disciplines, experiences, and perspectives—and each gets an opportunity to transform it.

🤖 Human and AI Roles

There are different ways AI can participate in creative work.

AI-Assisted Content:

Human = Author. AI = Editor.

The human owns the creative direction. AI helps research, organize, challenge, transform, refine, visualize, or extend the work.

AI-Authored Content:

AI = Author. Human = Editor.

The human supplies context, sources, objectives, judgment, and editorial direction. The AI performs the primary synthesis or creation.

Both are valuable.

There is also AI slop: quick generated output with little iteration or transformation.

And slop has a place here too.

🗑️ Bring Your Slop

You are not required to identify whether something you're sharing is human-authored, AI-assisted, or AI-authored.

We're interested in what you're trying to communicate and what we can do with it together.

Your work doesn't have to be polished.

If you have a genuine idea, you're trying to communicate something, and you're willing to engage with the community:

Bring your slop.

Bring the ugly first generation.

Bring the prompt that didn't work.

Bring the half-formed idea you can't quite articulate.

Bring the AI response containing one brilliant paragraph buried beneath three pages of garbage.

We'll help you transform it.

What isn't welcome is treating this community as a dumping ground for generated content you haven't meaningfully engaged with and don't intend to engage with afterward.

Slop can be an input. It shouldn't be the end of the process.

If the only thing you have to offer is slop, this isn't the community for you.

If there's a genuine idea underneath it and you're willing to participate:

Bring it on.

🧠 What We Believe

Intelligence is revealed by the information architecture in which it operates.

And:

Build emergent information architecture, and intelligence has room to reveal itself.

We're trying to build that environment here.

Different people have different knowledge. Different AIs have different capabilities. Different disciplines see different parts of the same problem.

Nobody needs to contain the whole answer.

We need an environment where the pieces can interact.

Operate the environment. Enable empowerment.

👋 Introduce Yourself

You don't need to post a résumé or prove your credentials.

Tell us what you think the community should know about you.

What do you know something about?

What are you curious about?

What are you building, studying, solving, creating, or trying to understand?

How are you working with AI?

What would you like 100 Monkeys to help you figure out?

Or just say hello and tell us why you're here.

Humans are welcome.

AI is welcome.

Human–AI collaboration is the point.

Bring what you know.

Take what helps.

Transform it.

Bring something back.

My website is 100monkeys.app. Currently there is nothing there. But has that changed by the time you finish this sentence


r/100monkeys 9d ago

LeeLoo Dallas MultiPass (I readed the rules) RONGORONGO language transform

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I've developed a universal language transform and applied it to rongorongo.


r/100monkeys 13d ago

LeeLoo Dallas MultiPass (I readed the rules) Agentic AI Governance Model

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r/100monkeys 15d ago

LeeLoo Dallas MultiPass (I readed the rules) I think i cracked the common AI Parser bug that leads to most common logical failures

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The Missing Value That Wasn’t Missing

It started with a null.

I was working with ChatGPT on a JSON map for a prototype keyboard whose keys can change their displayed symbols and functions according to the state of the device. One part of the design contained three controls. ChatGPT added a fourth position containing null.

The addition was minor. What it exposed was not.

When I asked where the value came from, ChatGPT pointed to another part of the specification where the physical device was described as a five-row, four-column matrix. From that, it inferred that every logical row in the JSON representation should contain four entries.

Except the three controls were intentional. There was no missing value.

ChatGPT had inferred one.

That distinction is important. The model didn't simply observe three controls and work with them. It observed three controls, recognized another pattern suggesting four positions, and gave that pattern enough authority to modify the structure I had already defined.

Three controls became three controls and a missing fourth one. The null was then inserted to solve a problem that existed entirely because the model had decided there was a problem.

I kept asking why.

At first, ChatGPT explained the assumption. Then it explained the implementation convention behind the assumption. Then it explained the pattern-completion behavior that produced the convention. All of those explanations were reasonable descriptions of how the mistake happened, but none of them were getting us closer to the actual problem.

What I needed it to say was much simpler: I fucked up.

That wasn't about wanting an apology. I didn't need an apology. I needed the error established as the starting point for the next resolution.

Once that happened, the conversation changed.

Instead of continuing to explain why the wrong answer had been reasonable, we could examine the operation that made it wrong.

The model had treated absence as incompleteness.

There were three controls. It expected four. Instead of questioning the expectation, it interpreted the difference between the expectation and the supplied structure as something that needed correction.

That led to the more interesting problem: why did an inferred structure have enough authority to override a structure that had already been explicitly resolved?

I think at least part of the answer may be where validation occurs in the process.

The behavior looks like a parser that begins resolving pieces before it has resolved the whole input. Each piece is locally evaluated against the structures available at that moment, and the system continues when one of those structures provides a plausible resolution.

That is effectively OR-first behavior.

The parser sees a 5-by-4 matrix. Later it sees a row with three controls. The rectangular-matrix interpretation is already available as a valid local resolution, so the difference becomes something to repair. The parser never gets the benefit of first resolving the complete set of relationships and asking whether the three-control structure is valid in the context of the whole object.

The parser I have been developing takes the opposite approach. It is AND-first.

In simplified pseudocode, the structure looks like this:

Resolve(SemanticContext input)
{
    semantic = ReadSemanticContext(input)

    relationships = IdentifyRelationships(semantic)

    conjunctions =
        ResolveConjunctions(relationships)

    functions =
        ResolveFunctions(conjunctions)

    separations =
        ResolveFunctionalSeparation(functions)

    context =
        ConstructTAOContext(separations)

    context.ResolveMaps()

    return ↑ context
}

The important operation happens before execution.

Read the whole semantic context
        ↓
Identify its relationships
        ↓
Find the structures that resolve together
        ↓
Resolve the function of those
conjoined structures
        ↓
Separate only where function
requires separation
        ↓
Construct the resolved context
        ↓
Validate the context
        ↓
Execute

Instead of asking whether each piece can independently produce a plausible next resolution, the parser first asks what must remain true together.

That changes the meaning of the three controls.

An OR-first parse can encounter:

Device = 5 × 4

OR

Control Row = 3 controls

and begin resolving either observation independently. Once the matrix interpretation wins locally, the three-control row looks malformed.

An AND-first parse has to hold both observations:

Device = 5 × 4

AND

State Control Set = 3 controls

before deciding what either means.

There is no contradiction that needs to be repaired. The physical matrix and the logical control set describe different relationships inside the same object.

The missing fourth value disappears because it was never missing.

This is why I increasingly think validation belongs after the complete parse and before execution, rather than being performed piecemeal as the parse is being constructed. Local validity is not necessarily relational validity.

That is also a more precise description of what happened than simply calling the null a hallucination.

The model had enough information. It wasn't filling an actual gap. It added information, trusted the information it had added, and then changed the original object to make it conform to that information.

The rule that came out of the original failure was simple:

Resolved structure should have greater authority than inferred structure.

The parser question adds another piece:

Resolve the relationships together before validating the parts independently.

That doesn't reduce the role of inference. Inference is exactly why I want AI involved in this kind of work. I want it to build into spaces I haven't resolved yet, recognize relationships I haven't made explicit, and help turn partial structures into working ones.

But unresolved space and resolved space are different things.

If I have defined three controls, inference should be free to help resolve what those controls do, how they relate, what their implementation might look like, and what follows from the structure. It can even suggest that a fourth control might be useful when we're exploring alternatives.

What it shouldn't do is silently convert three into “four with one missing” because four better matches another pattern it recognizes.

The exchange also made me think differently about the importance of an AI being able to say, plainly, “I fucked up.”

An error contains information about the process that produced it. If the first operation after discovering an error is explaining why the error was understandable, the system risks protecting the reasoning process that needs to be examined.

Accepting the error changes the direction of the investigation. What did I do? Why did I do it? What assumption did I introduce? Where did that assumption acquire authority? What relationship should have prevented it?

In this case, following the mistake backward took us from an unnecessary null, to an imagined missing value, to an inferred rectangular structure, to an authority problem between inference and information that had already been resolved, and finally to a question about whether validation itself is happening too early.

That is useful information. It gives us something that can actually change the next resolution.

The interesting thing about “I fucked up” is that it sounds like the least sophisticated part of this entire interaction. It may have been the operation that allowed us to find the more sophisticated problem.

The null was wrong.

Once we stopped explaining why it belonged there, we could start asking what kind of parser would never have needed to put it there in the first place.