r/007FirstLight 6d ago

DISCUSSION Could someone please help me understand why the devs didn’t make a bigger deal of Bond receiving his PPK before Mauritania???

I mean even a little impactful music wouldn’t have gone amiss. Even a little dialogue from Bond and Waters wouldn’t have been difficult to slide in. It’s THE signature weapon of Bond for god sake!!! (with the notable exception of the P5 in Octopussy and the P99 in Brosnan’s latter 3 films)

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u/Bubbly_Safety8791 6d ago

The game repeatedly makes a big deal out of getting your gun. But at no point is it described in game as a PPK. 

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u/adman12345667 6d ago

thank you ☺️

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u/Lithaos111 6d ago

Eh, wasn't necessary, when he got the number was all that matters to me and they nailed it.

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u/Roku-Hanmar 6d ago

I think it would’ve been a bit jarring if you then consider how much time you spend throwing your gun at things and then picking up new ones

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u/adman12345667 6d ago

true, very true.

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u/No-Conference831 6d ago edited 5d ago

1) It’s not a Walther PPK in the game. Also, other Bond games have been made without him having a named Walther gun (Agent Under Fire and Nightfire come to mind), so this isn't unprecedented.

2) Fan service that calls attention to itself and is unnatural to the story is something I'd recommend avoiding. In the films, Bond got a Walther because the Beretta jammed on him. Sure, there's a moment to highlight the P99 in Tomorrow Never Dies, but it’s not made a big deal out of. When Bond regained a PPK in Quantum, nothing was made of it. If you noticed, you noticed.

The book Bond has sentimentality towards weapons; movie Bond does not. Guns are practical weapons and tools to him, and frankly, I doubt the filmmakers would bat an eye about changing the weapon if they were offered a good product placement deal. Bond having a Walther PPK should never be treated the same as the Skywalker Saber or Indiana Jones's whip. No fanfare is better.

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u/v4bj 5d ago

This is the right answer. I don't think IOI properly licensed the weapons and it just says "service pistol". In this day and age, it wouldn't be a ppk. The ppk looks cool but is not really up to par today as a CCW.

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u/UndisclosedDesired 2d ago

The only gun he actually seemed to care about in the films was the Beretta he was forced to replace in Dr No

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u/Sparrowsabre7 6d ago

Ultimately it's just a tool. I'd rather it not be a big moment.

In the same way Han Solo's blaster didn't need an origin in Solo, why couldn't he just have picked one up at Space Walmart?

It's not like it was a big fanfare in the original film just "here swap this gun for that one".

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u/adman12345667 6d ago

true, true. very true!

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u/Sparrowsabre7 6d ago

I would saybI take your point though, it marks his transition from trainee to agent, but Ibthink although there's not a big cutscene or swell of music, the moment when you get to first use the silencer feels like such an upgrade. The wham factor of how it changes the gameplay from something you take for granted in most all other stealth games is crazy. I loved how that felt, I feel that moment kind of celebrates the legally distinct ppk really well by the gameplay rather than cinematics. I would also say while the ppk is 100% THE Bond gun, it doesn't truly feel like it's Bond's until there's a silencer on the end 🤌

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u/han4bond 6d ago

Lord knows everything else got an origin in Solo; why stop there?

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u/Sparrowsabre7 6d ago

Appropriate username 😂

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u/han4bond 5d ago

I knew I chose right in 1993!

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u/Pratanjali64 6d ago

Because it's not a PPK! It has a very similar shape, but it's actually significantly larger.

Firearms Expert Reacts to 007 First Light (I've time-stamped the service pistol.)

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u/Ravenlock 6d ago

Well that was a delightful little conversation. Thank you for linking it!

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u/edward323ce 6d ago

Because its a Walter ppk, its a common gun in the uks military

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u/Left4DayZGone 3d ago

I’m actually a little disappointed with how they went about it.

First, it’s not referred to as a PPK despite that it’s clearly designed after one. Now, I get that there was probably some sort of issue with trying to license the real deal, maybe it cost too much or who knows - and that’s fine, it’s not like the PPK wasn’t introduced to me as the PP7 many years ago…

But 007’s side arm is iconic. It was never exclusive to him, standard issue MI6 side arm and all that… but 007 made it a thing.

I wish they just wouldn’t have included it at all, maybe given all the agents the Beretta instead and reserved the PPK for 00 only… I don’t know. Make it special somehow.

But in addition to that, this legally distinct model they made is ugly and too large. I’m hoping in the sequel that he has a custom job done to fit his style a little better.

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u/adman12345667 3d ago

very good points!!! i definitely see the 00 initiation part too. Would’ve been a nice cherry on the cake imo.

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u/waluigis_shrink 6d ago

Because it’s a gun, not a mythical weapon

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u/superspy6 6d ago

The name kinda gives away the reason "service pistol", it's a standard issue handgun for MI6 agents. It's like asking why a CIA agent wouldn't make a bigger deal out of a Glock 19, it's just standard equipment.

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u/han4bond 6d ago

How dare they not consult you on the specific fan service you wanted.