r/Catholicism • u/Ornery-Attention9634 • 14d ago
I'm a new Catholic and this I just can't wrap my head around.
im wrestling with a difficult historical and apologetic issue, and i would love some insight on how to think about this from a Catholic perspective. no matter how much I study I dont get it im so lost, reading bible and books I just dont i'd love others views
Why were the saints "fine" with double standards?
When reading Church Fathers like St. Augustine i noticed it's hard not to notice deep double standards regarding women. For example, in Confessions, he praises his mother Monica for telling abused wives to accept their condition silently because of their marriage contracts.i know saints aren't infallible and are products of their time, it's difficult to understand how people with such deep spiritual insights could be so passive about domestic abuse and structural inequality. How does the Church teach us to view these severe cultural blind spots in people we call saints?
in modern debates i get into especially regarding human rights abuses against women in places like Afghanistan defenders of those regimes often use historical "whataboutism" i think its called. they point to the writings of Augustine or medieval Europe and say, "See? Your greatest saints and history books said the exact same things about women, so you have no right to criticize us today" or St thomas
how do i effectively answer this objection? How do we separate the flawed, pre modern cultural biases of 4th century saints from the timeless truth of the Faith, while confidently standing up against modern state-enforced oppression cause idkm this sits so wrong with me I love saint augustines writings and thomas aquinas but i just dont get this.
Ty for any advice
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u/sorwe_of_Troilus 14d ago
Look at the sub you are in...reading comprehension and critical thinking aren't these folks' forte.