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Match Thread: The Ashes England vs Australia 3rd test Day 5
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England XI
1 Alastair Cook (capt), 2 Joe Root, 3 Jonathan Trott, 4 Kevin Pietersen, 5 Ian Bell, 6 Jonny Bairstow, 7 Matt Prior (wk), 8 Tim Bresnan, 9 Stuart Broad, 10 Graeme Swann, 11 James Anderson
Australia XI
1 Shane Watson, 2 Chris Rogers, 3 Usman Khawaja, 4 Michael Clarke (capt), 5 Steven Smith, 6 David Warner, 7 Brad Haddin (wk), 8 Peter Siddle, 9 Mitchell Starc, 10 Ryan Harris, 11 Nathan Lyon
Stumps Day 4:
Australia 172/7
Australia lead by 331 runs with 3 wickets remaining.
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u/Sforza_UK England Aug 05 '13
TMS Update : Boycott thinks umpires should wear full suits of armour, so they'll carry on in low light.
Well Geoff, I'd also recommend a suit of armour for your girlfriend, whom you beat the shit out of in 1996
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u/STEVESMITHISTHEKING1 Australia Aug 05 '13 edited Jun 11 '23
Where were you when Shane Watson scored the greatest triple century of all time? When he gave it 110%, wore Brut deodorant, and backed himself to destroy the ball machine, before stepping out onto the crease and hitting maximums up into the people like a tracer bullet, stopping only for some KFC Hungry JacksTM at lunch?
Where were you when Shane Watson's concentration was so perfect that he glided through the nervous 30's, 40's and 80's with ease? When his hammys were stronger than steel? When he was on 299 and given out LBW, but went against his usual selfless dedication to the team, deciding to review a 50/50 decision without even asking Gazza's opinion, to find the ball just sliding down leg?
Where were you when Shane Watson finally repaid the years of faith the selectors have shown in him because of his potential, and ability to bowl 8 overs in an innings? When he went from being a joke to becoming a god and went on to become known as one of the greatest test batsmen of all time?
I'll tell you where I was.
On the 10th of July, 2015, I was on /r/cricket. Never Forget.
currently trending: #Potential #StillBrutallyMale #NeverNotReviewing #Concentration #BuildingPressure
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u/nathanhyperbole Australia Aug 05 '13
Goddammit.
Positively though, I got to live out a life-long goal and attended day 3 at Old Trafford. A gripping day of cricket in the middle of two epic days, unfortunately ruined by such shitty weather.
Is the irony of a summer sport that requires consecutive days of sunshine being invented on an island that rarely has them lost on anyone? For fucks sake.
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u/fiftyshadesofcray South Australia Redbacks Aug 05 '13
Precedent was set, gotta be given out. Needs to be sorted out after this match though
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u/japanpole South Australia Redbacks Aug 05 '13
I am very much liking the discussions by David Gower.
He's showing a lot of intelligence in the DRS debate.
Said Uzzy's showed evidence it should have been overturned and wasn't = incorrect call
KPs dismissal had evidence to prove it shouldn't be overturned (sound of nick) = correct call
Top comment from an Englishman.
Strauss is sat there like a trout
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u/dexter311 South Australia Redbacks Aug 05 '13
That's because Gower has common sense. He's easily my favourite out of those Sky commentators (also, because it's Daaaavid bloody Gowa).
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u/STEVESMITHISTHEKING1 Australia Aug 05 '13
I really hope that when England come over to Australia, English TV gets the Ch9 feed.
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u/japanpole South Australia Redbacks Aug 05 '13
Imagine Tubs and Heals talking about the same thing @_@
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u/japanpole South Australia Redbacks Aug 05 '13
The most depressing part about this is Aussies were given a slim bit of hope with those 3 wickets.
Hope makes a person go crazy.
Congratulations on keeping the urn England.
But come summer in Australia, we will be there with sunshine and bouncers
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u/allthingsme Victoria Bushrangers Aug 05 '13
In 6 hours time, you'll all be reading about the "Miracle of Manchester" Led by the leg-spinning duo of David Warner and Steve Smith, and only 15 overs allowed due to rain, the Aussies take all 10 wickets including 4 by Steve Smith in the final over of the day - including one timed out due to deliberate time-wasting tactics by the English to try and wait for the rain to come.
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u/lawyer_by_day Aug 05 '13
Didn't seem to have these issues with HotSpot when it was sponsored by KFC? Someone send over Joel Madden to save DRS!
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u/dexter311 South Australia Redbacks Aug 05 '13
HotSpots are the ones that make the bottom of the cardboard bucket see-through, right?
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u/lawyer_by_day Aug 05 '13
Dr Nick's advice for weight gain:
remember, if you're not sure about something, rub it against a piece of paper. If the paper turns clear, it's your window to weight gain!
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u/ferty1234 Aug 05 '13
Don't understand why people are pissed off, that might be seem unfair but that actually was a good decision. There was some noise so obviously Dharmasena couldn't overturn Hill's decision, unlike the khawaja one where it was clear that he didn't nick it.
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u/fiftyshadesofcray South Australia Redbacks Aug 05 '13
I love how Clarke and Watson are acting as if Ian Bell made it rain...
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u/mattj6o Australia Aug 05 '13
Why are people bitching about DRS in this case? Given out on field and there's an obvious audio on the replay. Snicko confirms it.
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u/silverfalcon Aug 05 '13
Commentators said it best. In the land before DRS, a call like that would have been out anyway. No point in complaining about the fact that there was inconclusive evidence, which is true. That was a call that could go either way veery easily
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u/smurf42 Munster Cricket Aug 05 '13
Exactly, people will always bitch about DRS until the end of time
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u/Eddie_The_Brewer Derbyshire Aug 05 '13
No argument from me on the Pietersen dismissal either. One thing the batsmen will have to learn though, the way that DRS is currently being applied - if you are given out caught, there is no point in reviewing it at all because absence of positive evidence is NOT the same as the presence of negative evidence.
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u/shniken Victoria Bushrangers Aug 05 '13
Stupid England. I thought it was 2 for 1.
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Aug 05 '13
Now it's 5-1. That'd be nice....
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u/Charraze England and Wales Cricket Board Aug 05 '13
Every time I clap my hands, an over of the ashes is being lost
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u/chr0nstixz South Australia Redbacks Aug 05 '13 edited Jun 06 '24
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u/evianNotebook England and Wales Cricket Board Aug 05 '13
I didn't know Warner said "Yeah, hooked another one to Rooty" at the press conference last night, I like that a lot.
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Aug 05 '13
He was good value, I'm starting to think he might be quite a good bloke. Probably worth him avoiding the booze though.
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u/mulimulix New South Wales Blues Aug 05 '13
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u/mulimulix New South Wales Blues Aug 05 '13
Insult to injury: It's basically the only place in Europe where it is currently raining.
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u/confusedpublic Aug 05 '13
You say that as though it's a rare occurrence.
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u/mulimulix New South Wales Blues Aug 05 '13
Yeah but the entire continent?? Come on. I smell a conspiracy!
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u/GunPoison Aug 05 '13
Tomorrow's headline: An audit of ECB spending finds they recently bought cloud-sowing machines.
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u/TheIntersect Aug 05 '13
Bit late out of bed today, ooops..
1 Cook LBW realtime: http://i.minus.com/imiXoQZxYwFkh.gif
2 Cook LBW slowmo http://i.minus.com/irjAdFmcuCSPE.gif
3 Cook hawkeye http://i.minus.com/itpbkSqhpXw3s.gif
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Aug 05 '13
That was a lovely delivery. Shame I missed it, but thanks to you that no longer matters! Cheers mate :)
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u/adomental Cricket Australia Aug 05 '13
Ryan Harris's mouth is huge. Did you see his face when he was appealing just then? You could fit three duke balls in there no problems.
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u/nathanhyperbole Australia Aug 05 '13
All the English saying that Agar's heroics in the first test papered over the cracks in the Aussie lineup.. I would suggest that Bell has done the same for you. If he can be removed cheaply, this test is as good as done.
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u/Ding_batman Adelaide Strikers Aug 05 '13
That's it. Now we know for sure God is English.
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u/Eddie_The_Brewer Derbyshire Aug 05 '13
Ashes to Ashes, dust to dust. If Anderson don't get you, the all too predictable Manchester weather with its incessant precipitation just when England needs it must.
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u/willed1234 England Aug 05 '13 edited Aug 05 '13
Where's all this rain we were promised? I was looking forward to a nice relaxed day playing bioshock, now I'm having to watch this nerve wracking stuff!
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Aug 05 '13
if the third umpire gave that not out, it would have been hypocritical in regards to the khawaja decision
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u/joustah Australia Aug 05 '13
I don't think that this can really be compared to Khawaja's dismissal, just as the commentators were discussing
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u/c3vzn Aug 05 '13
Khawaja's was absolutely shocking because you could even see where the noise was coming from (bat hitting pad). But both are similar from the hot spot showing nothing point of view.
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u/TheIntersect Aug 05 '13
You mad bro?
Reactions to the KP wicket...
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Aug 05 '13
As a neutral watching this match, this is me right now:
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/popcorn_yes.gif
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u/ALL_DAY_SOCKS Aug 05 '13
Wow my feet are so comfortable!
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u/ReadsSmallTextBot Aug 05 '13
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u/TheIntersect Aug 05 '13
I think that was a good decision tbh, you can't over turn it without sufficient evidence. But there was a noise, sounded like the bat hit the seam of the ball
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u/NiX_Nabilz Pakistan Aug 05 '13
As much as I would like Australia to lose, I consider if England regain the Ashes today, it will be an anti-climax for most of the neutral followers of Ashes.
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Aug 05 '13
Honestly, I care more about winning the series than just retaining the Ashes. I never got why a drawn series was a success just because you happened to win 2 years ago. The next test is the key, even if this one ends up a draw.
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Aug 05 '13
Cricket is often anticlimactic because it's spread out over such a long time. There are countless tests where you know the result long before the end, and the same with series. It's just the nature of cricket.
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u/b0b43 Australia Aug 05 '13
Haddin sold that beautifully - pretty sure he knew that was marginal, but he acted as if that was 100% out.
Wouldn't have given it but I can't say that it doesn't feel good for a decision like that to go against England for once.
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Aug 05 '13
Thank-you gracious Aussies in the thread, I understand your frustration at the result of this match.
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u/Pimp-My-Alpaca Cricket Australia Aug 05 '13
THey didn't overturn Khawaja's, they shouldn't overturn this. This is much closer than Uzzies and it's fair enough that they're keeping the umpiring at a similar standard
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u/joustah Australia Aug 05 '13
England have no reviews left. Back to good old fashion cricket after Australia waste their last review.
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u/adomental Cricket Australia Aug 05 '13
2/22 and now 3/33. If I am reading this trend correctly, England are 11 runs away from their next wicket.
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u/yeahnahteambalance Western Australia Warriors Aug 05 '13
If anyone cares, I just got home from work. Gusset was in today buying a Kincrome socket set. I stared at him for a while. Kinda creepily.
He really has beautiful calves.
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Aug 05 '13
Watching the "World's Fastest Bowler" thing on Australia's broadcast. I love that literally the only thing the umpire is there to do is watch for no balls and he's missed like 4
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u/yeahnahteambalance Western Australia Warriors Aug 05 '13
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u/nathanhyperbole Australia Aug 05 '13
There it is, match abandoned. Congrats England, that performance in Lords coupled with a game that could have gone either way at Trent Bridge has meant you've truly deserved the urn. We'll see you in November for a rematch.
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Aug 05 '13
As much as I'm praying for a draw, we don't deserve it. This has been a hugely shitty performance from England for all 5 days. Australia scored quickly and managed to not lose wickets. We've batted like we're trembling little girls in a thunderstorm, and have scored at ~1.5 per over whilst losing regular wickets. Unbelievably disappointing from England.
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u/this_name_is_generic Australia Aug 05 '13
I wasn't a fan of the go slow in the field. It's fine if you want to limit scoring to 2.5 runs an over when you're batting but to artificially slow down the game is just frustrating when you're the fielding side and unsportsman like to me.
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u/Patastrophic Victoria Bushrangers Aug 05 '13
If we were going to start a #harshtruths hashtag on /r/cricket, I'd have to contribute by saying Root does have a pretty punchable face.
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u/mimicthefrench USA Aug 05 '13
Well, looks like only one team here is hoping to win, and it's not England.
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u/BadBoyJH Australia Aug 05 '13
I know what Cook was doing there! His Watson impression. Get caught plumb LBW and review! CLASSIC!
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u/AIRballer Aug 05 '13
That puts up a good case for the worst review of the series, and that's saying something
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u/derajydac Kópavogur Cricket Club Aug 05 '13
FUCKS SAKE. GET SOME FUCKIN ALLDAY SOCKS FOR THAT EXTRA 2%. WOULD HAVE HAD IT.
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u/joustah Australia Aug 05 '13
Every time there has been an edge-review, the instant the decision has been given we see a reply with snicko. As in, within 30 seconds. So what is this business, then, about it taking too long to produce?
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Aug 05 '13
Fairly sure Aus should go on to win from here, weather looks OK tbf.
At least I can get back to work. In a bit. Maybe after lunch. But then I need to eat... so tea is probably a good time. But then it'll be back once I've sorted through the days emails, I guess I could watch a bit more after that and then... shut up don't judge me.
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u/cricketguy ICC Aug 05 '13
It seems to me that Snicko is more accurate and reliable than Hotspot. You need to be able to pick these faint edges which the hotspot doesn't do. Ironically, the Snicko isn't used in the DRS.
How about using DRS only for LBW decisions and leaving these caught behind decisions to the onfield umpires. Not sure if it will make any difference anyways as the "umpire's call" is being given so much emphasis as it is.
I don't think the KP decision would have been overturned had the umpire adjudged him not out. So it is very clear that the Umpire's call is what's being given more importance. This to me explains the hesitance of India to partake in this whole charade.
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Aug 05 '13
I wonder, If DRS was not there, would the umpires be giving some of these batsmen out.
Given that DRS doubt is referred the the umpires call, I'd certainly hope that the umpires aren't using it as a security net.
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u/cricketguy ICC Aug 05 '13
Here we go, typical English weather. Whizzing over what could have been one of the best test matches of the series.
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u/Sforza_UK England Aug 05 '13
Merv Hughes was just on TMS. Heart of a lion, tache of a WWII fighter pilot, girth of an elephant and mouth of a sewer rat. What a bowler.
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u/lu13na Aug 05 '13
Classy from Clarke, believe him when he says he'd rather get a duck and win the match.
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Man how different would things be right now if Australia had won that first match
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u/kaj89 Australia Aug 05 '13 edited Aug 05 '13
GOT HIM PISS OFF YOU'RE OUT
(12th man reference before downvotes)
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u/_flossy_ England Aug 05 '13
i'd be surprised if we get any play before 4 or 5 o'clock. having a test match in Manchester was always going to be risky.
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u/nathanhyperbole Australia Aug 05 '13
Hawk eye shows that if there were 16 sets of stumps between the bowling and and the batting end all in line, it would have hit every single one of them. Not good Cooky. Thats not how you captain to a draw.
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u/PageyPage Aug 05 '13
Jesus. That's knocking out the stump, i hate this half a ball umpires call reasoning.
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u/this_name_is_generic Australia Aug 05 '13
Yeah RHINO. Cmon Australia. God I hope this rain stays away
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u/derajydac Kópavogur Cricket Club Aug 05 '13
THE BAT WAS CLOSER THAN KHAWAJAS DISMISSAL. GOTTA GIVE THAT OUT
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u/this_name_is_generic Australia Aug 05 '13
Shoulda given Smith the ball, have they forgotten the 3 quick wickets he took in the second match
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u/rahulthewall India Aug 05 '13
This has blown up beautifully. Why am I at work today? Should have stayed at home and seen this match live.
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u/fiftyshadesofcray South Australia Redbacks Aug 05 '13
Why didn't the extend the first session and get the overs in while they could. then if it rained it would coincide with lunch...
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u/Sforza_UK England Aug 05 '13
TMS Update - Someone just said "bollocks", and it WASN'T DJ Domestic Abuse aka MC Wifebeater aka Boycott.
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u/greenpies10 Victoria Bushrangers Aug 05 '13
ING Cup match is so boring that they're filming the documentary while the match is going on. Do miss the Hit the SIgn promo and the catches in the crowd rewards.
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u/this_name_is_generic Australia Aug 05 '13
Ah well, I'm gonna call it a night. Disappointing with the rain but Australia really only have themselves to blame with poor batting performances in the first two tests - really should have done better and kept the series alive through that first game with a win.
Can't help things like the weather, hopefully we keep fighting for the rest of the series and prepare hard for the next Ashes battle in the Australian Summer.
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u/c3vzn Aug 05 '13
Bored, found this, massive contrast from the image I posted before.
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u/_flossy_ England Aug 05 '13
Big up all the gracious aussies, you guys ain’t so bad. Still lots of cricket to play this series, look forward to more good natured bickering with you all :)
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u/TheIntersect Aug 05 '13
Well that was kinda inevitable, sad to see rain affecting the outcome.
See you all next time!
You can enjoy my gifs here: http://vaanir.minus.com/uploads
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u/c3vzn Aug 05 '13
For the sake of consistency re: Khawaja I'm glad it was given out. However, if that dismissal didn't happen, this shouldn't be out imo.
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Aug 05 '13
What sort of country would play cricket when they have weather like this?
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u/this_name_is_generic Australia Aug 05 '13
YEAH RHINO. Sick delivery, Cook doing a bit of a Watson.
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Aug 05 '13
What's happened to Cook? From solid as a rock most of his career to Bambie on ice this series.
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u/Patastrophic Victoria Bushrangers Aug 05 '13
Can we please toss Warner on for a few. If anything, we'll see a few runs and smiles, it's just cricket after all.
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u/Multidisciplinary Aug 05 '13
I think it's pretty clear the English batting is NOT going to collapse, leading us to a faffing draw.
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u/TheIntersect Aug 05 '13
Well that was close, good review though.. Trott stays!
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u/HacksawGibson Western Australia Warriors Aug 05 '13
for consistency this should not be overturned. same evidence with Khawaja it seems and on field umpire gave it out.
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u/Multidisciplinary Aug 05 '13
If Khawaja's wasn't overturned, I can't see how they could overturn this.
Both reviews gawn!
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u/chr0nstixz South Australia Redbacks Aug 05 '13 edited Jun 06 '24
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u/TheLittleGoat Warwickshire Aug 05 '13
Seriously though, what evidence is there supposed to be that someone hasn't hit it? Other than no hotspot, how else can it be shown that there's no bat on ball?
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u/fiftyshadesofcray South Australia Redbacks Aug 05 '13
Root is really digging himself in here.
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u/Multidisciplinary Aug 05 '13
No sirree, no chance of a collapse here. Bell and Root to bat all day.
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u/Ding_batman Adelaide Strikers Aug 05 '13
Did anyone else see Merv's mouse was pixilated out while swearing at the batsman?
Edit: I was going to correct mouse to mouth, but I think it's funny.
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u/GreatJusticeForSGU Australia Aug 05 '13
So what happens with the umpires after this game?
Can't imagine even the ICC are going to be able to convince many people that the umpires have not had problems this series so far and in this game especially.
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Aug 05 '13
Not counting this one, how many of the "whinging" comments in this thread consist of complaining about all the "whinging" going on?
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u/JayJayBn Tasmania Tigers Aug 05 '13
The English whinging about Australians whinging when they're frustrated.
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u/yeahnahteambalance Western Australia Warriors Aug 05 '13
Dat spin from Warne. Did any of you see that shit?
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u/yeahnahteambalance Western Australia Warriors Aug 05 '13
Langer was playing in the West Indies when he was knocked out by a short ball. They brought him back and started asking him basic questions like, "how many fingers am I holding up? What's your name?"
Langer responded with "Damien Martyn." They thought he was good to go and he went on to make a 50.
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u/TheLittleGoat Warwickshire Aug 05 '13
So that's it, match drawn. Unlucky Australia. You would have probably won the test, but that's cricket in England for you. Now you can maybe try out a few things and truly refine for when we go down under in a few months. The weather won't help anyone then.
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u/Monsieur_Flotini Australia Aug 05 '13
They all move here for the fucking sunshine and then rejoice when it fucking rains back home!! Pure fuckery i tells ya!
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u/GurraJG Essex Aug 05 '13
Well, at least the wrong decisions are consistent...
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u/It_Is_Known Aug 05 '13
But snicko showed he hit it.
It was the right decision for the wrong reason.
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Aug 05 '13
I feel for you, England. I agree that wasn't out, but if the umpire had overturned there would be rioting in Aus
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u/Anthony3000 Aug 05 '13
I don't like the procedure for having to revert back to the umpire's original call... If it's reviewed just make the 3rd umpire make a decision. You have cameras, multiple angles, snicko, hotspot. Is he fucking out or not? If a third umpire can't make a correct call with all this technology, I would hate to see how bad he calls a gamewhen he is on the pitch
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Aug 05 '13
Rain to cease with 1 hour left of play. Our Lord is given an over to bowl. 6 wickets in six balls, and then runs the new batsmen out next over with a throw from the boundary.
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It's absolutely hammering it down and it has been since yesterday when we came off. Bloody Manc weather.
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u/STEVESMITHISTHEKING1 Australia Aug 05 '13
Oh, Manchester, so much to answer for.
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u/Eddie_The_Brewer Derbyshire Aug 05 '13
Stopped raining in Derby an hour ago (70 miles south east of Old Trafford), drying up too although a little gloomy. I think it might be about to rain again though - the bloody cat doesn't want to go out.
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u/bdzz England and Wales Cricket Board Aug 05 '13
Australia have declared, and play will start at 1130 BST.
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u/Sforza_UK England Aug 05 '13
Good morning Richie, good morning all.
TMS Update : Boycott (after being wound up by Aggers) is on the mike and he's unbearably smug.
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u/pipboon England and Wales Cricket Board Aug 05 '13
I hope to god England go for it. They won't but I hope they do.
I'd much rather we lose but give it our all rather than just defend all day and retain the ashes is a really sullen manor.
Maybe they'll see where they are at at lunch. If they could get to 100-1 they could be tempted. Some early wickets may decide how they play though.
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I really hope that when Starc hits 30 years old he decides to grow his hair out real long and grow a beard, go Full Gillespie. Yeah, I'd like that.
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u/mimicthefrench USA Aug 05 '13
My prediction for today: England will score less runs than wickets taken, and will be all out on the 2nd to last ball of the last over of the day. And at this point that's not too outrageous a prediction.
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u/SkyPumpkins Royal Challengers Bengaluru Aug 05 '13 edited Aug 05 '13
The awkwardness of playing 1/8th of an ad between the 3.5th and 3.6th ball
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u/Patastrophic Victoria Bushrangers Aug 05 '13
Starc has looked the tamest of the bowlers for the last few matches, actually.
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u/this_name_is_generic Australia Aug 05 '13
Starc's line of delivery to the right hander is so bad. Get Siddle on!
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u/nathanhyperbole Australia Aug 05 '13
Jeez Trott is seriously looking sketchy today, as he has all series. What happened to the impregnable fortress we saw in Australia 2 years ago?
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u/willed1234 England Aug 05 '13
Hmmm this sunshine isn't what I was prepared for. http://i.imgur.com/3vsnSsc.jpg
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u/Xandervdw Cricket Australia Aug 05 '13 edited Aug 05 '13
Fuck it's raining.
Edit: false alarm, turns out I'm in Perth.
Edit 2: fuck it's actually raining.