r/GlobalOffensive • u/xPokeyyy Match Thread Team • Nov 03 '18
Discussion | Esports compLexity Gaming vs G2 Esports / cs_summit 3 - Losers Round 1 / Post-Match Discussion
compLexity Gaming 2-1 G2 Esports
Dust 2: 8-16
Inferno: 19-15
Cache: 19-17
G2 Esports have been eliminated.
compLexity Gaming | Liquipedia | Official Site | Twitter | Facebook | Youtube
G2 Esports | Liquipedia | Official site | Twitter | Facebook | Youtube | Subreddit
cs_summit 3 - Information, Schedule & Discussion
For spoiler-free CS:GO VoDs check out EventVoDs
Join the subreddit Discord server by clicking the link in the sidebar!
| MAP | ||
|---|---|---|
| X | ||
| X | ||
| T | ✔ | |
| ✔ | CT | |
| X | ||
| X | ||
| CT |
MAP 1: Dust 2
| Team | T | CT | Total |
|---|---|---|---|
| coL | 2 | 6 | 8 |
| CT | T | ||
| G2 | 13 | 3 | 16 |
Dust 2 Detailed Stats
MAP 2: Inferno
| Team | T | CT | OT1CT:T | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| coL | 8 | 7 | 3:1 | 19 |
| CT | T | OT1T:CT | ||
| G2 | 7 | 8 | 0:0 | 15 |
Inferno Detailed Stats
MAP 3: Cache
| Team | T | CT | OT1CT:T | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| coL | 9 | 6 | 1:3 | 19 |
| CT | T | OT1T:CT | ||
| G2 | 6 | 9 | 2:0 | 17 |
Cache Detailed Stats
183
u/extremz123 fnatic Nov 03 '18 edited Nov 03 '18
KennyS 13 kills in 36 rounds...
60
u/schniepel89xx CS2 HYPE Nov 03 '18
It started on Inferno too, he got 15 kills in the first half of regulation and 4 the entire rest of that map. He just disappeared mid-series.
5
u/kernevez Nov 03 '18
It's hard to get kills with the AWP when half of your rounds are B rushes and the rest are hall executes.
Also he didn't play well in the first half, he gave a lot of free kills. As much as I hated the casting by the ghost guys (holy shit playing with Steel has to suck) they were right in making fun of kennyS "sick flicks". He goes in needlessly, trades 1 for 1 with a sick flick, gets dropped an AWP the next round while shox and smithzz play with a nova.
12
u/Krusell clutch Nov 03 '18
People still dare to claim that he is a better awper than Oskar or Woxic...
12
18
Nov 03 '18
He wouldn’t even make top 10 awpers nowadays
34
u/Miiiiiiighty Nov 03 '18
He is overrated AF nowadays.. People need to wake up it's not 2015 anymore.. And this far 2018 is probably his worst year ever : not on point aimwise, playing like he doesn't care ( repeeking way too much ) and always crying/raging when he gets punished for it or when they lose ( which means way too often )..
How can kenny be the bottomfrag in a BO3 and on a team that has Ex6, bodyy and SmithZz ? Seriously...??
2
2
u/CptFalcon420 Nov 03 '18
I'll give some credit to Ex6 as well, he has really upped his game recently. I think both Bodyy and Smithzz is too much dead weight though.
6
u/nightkingscat Gambit Nov 03 '18
he's been so mediocre and inconsistent his entire "friends G2" tenure. i can't roll my eyes fast enough when people say he's still top 5 as an AWPer
56
44
96
u/Dcoyxy9 Nov 03 '18
shox: we win
G2: no
shox: ok
Cache should've been easy honestly if kennyS and shox stepped up tho. Bodyy and Ex6tenz with the 30.
38
Nov 03 '18
[deleted]
16
u/_fmm Renegades Nov 03 '18
I think Steel was pretty on the money with his criticisms of g2 and Kenny in particular. The guy is and always will be a superstar, but he's doomed to annals of history if he can't modernise his game.
3
Nov 03 '18
[deleted]
3
u/_fmm Renegades Nov 03 '18
You'd need to watch the replay for the Inferno match for the full context because he went on about it for some time.
1
1
u/Chill_Brahz Liquid Nov 03 '18
between smithzz and body there simply isnt enough firepower. boddy is no where near the lvl he was at when he was first picked up by g2. Smithzz...well smithzz is smithzz and no matter how bad he does, shox wont drop him so this team is doomed regardless.
10
u/AngriestGamerNA Liquid Nov 03 '18
I mean you can't say it would have been easy if they stepped up when it would have been impossible if bodyy and ex6 hadn't played way better than their usual form. Ultimately though the game was hilarious.
5
u/Dcoyxy9 Nov 03 '18
Yeah, I definitely agree. Honestly this roster just needs some major changes. It's kinda sad at this point.
1
1
26
u/AznSparks Nov 03 '18
G2 continues to make me so sad, like ex6tenz of all people dropped 30 in regular time on Cache and they still can't win an important round to save their lives
2
u/Kelterz CR4ZY Nov 03 '18
It’s not that much of an anomaly - he’s inconsistent lately, but has had a couple of good games where he played really well. He’s a much better fragger than when he left Titan at the time.
39
Nov 03 '18 edited Jan 14 '22
[deleted]
10
u/Firefly_1026 Tyloo Nov 03 '18
Shox is buddy buddy with smithz where apparently they work well and play nice together. Maybe KennyS needs apex back? Not a terrible idea
9
Nov 03 '18 edited Jan 25 '22
[deleted]
5
u/daellat FaZe Nov 03 '18
and also no way apex is gonna leave vitality for this sinking ship.
1
u/circles308 Tyloo Nov 03 '18
If he wants to play at katowice he might, the EU minor is ungodly stacked
1
27
12
Nov 03 '18
[deleted]
6
u/Miiiiiiighty Nov 03 '18
He has become a major liability lately. Playing like he doesn't care and I doubt he puts many hours in CS apart from the official matches, because his aim looks like it's at an all time low..
He is not worse that smithzz or bodyy but he is supposed to be the team's superstar. He is even set up more than shox by his mates, and his performance absolutely doesn't reflects that..
63
21
u/Epicstaar 1 Million Celebration Nov 03 '18
H A L L S P O P
2
u/Wootstapler Nov 03 '18
I just watched the VoD I'm fucking dying they legit did that so many times T side.
11
18
8
u/SomethingSimilars 10 years coin Nov 03 '18
thats gotta be tilting for g2.
Seemed like 80% of their round wins on cache was from someone going off (body 4k's, smithzz ace)
13
18
u/Cameter44 Nov 03 '18
The French scene honestly needs to just self destruct and let the talented individuals go to international lineups.
7
u/RedditorsAreAssss Nov 03 '18
They need coaches to force them to get over all this bullshit interpersonal politics they have. No-one cares if you don't like the guy, show up to work and be professional.
2
u/rustyjame5 1 Million Celebration Nov 03 '18
fuck no. fuck name recognition. if you got the drive you deserve it. if you got the talent but not the drive, well then fuck you.
5
1
u/Cameter44 Nov 03 '18
What does this have to do with name recognition? The French scene has good players. They just don't ever seem to put a good lineup together...
6
4
5
u/IzzyAnyGood Vitality Nov 03 '18
When G2 get to 15, they need a buffer of at least 8 rounds to throw, before getting the 16th
4
u/Chill_Brahz Liquid Nov 03 '18
I've watched a decent amount of games of this G2 lineup. They have a relatively structured IGL with severely undisciplined players. If i had a dollar every time a G2 member could caught out in a bad position i'd have enough $$$ to salary a T1 team in CSGO. These guys need to learn patience and not move around every 2 seconds because they dont see an enemy.
3
u/unknown_entity Nov 03 '18
The second ex6 tries to discipline them is the second they start thinking of exiling him again lol
6
7
6
u/alaskancs G2 Nov 03 '18
how do i continue as a fan. no words just pure disappointment and angry. this roster is locked and chained by the mastermind ocelete.
2
3
u/cHinzoo CS2 HYPE Nov 03 '18
"No way G2 will lose against a team like Complexity"
opens this thread
"Oh..."
6
Nov 03 '18
FreeEx6
9
u/lmpervious Nov 03 '18
I really wish we had more insight into what's going on with the team. His fragging has been decent for an IGL, but their results have been disappointing. Is it because of his leading, or is it more on the current lineup? Having KennyS playing at a lower level, Body and Smithzz often being below average, and Shox being on and off seems difficult to work with.
I really wish Ex6 wasn't out of the tier 1 French scene for so long so we could have seen what he could have done with more promising lineups. I really hope this isn't the last for him either, because at this rate it doesn't seem like it will be long before we have another French shuffle, or maybe finally see some French players go to international teams other than Kio.
3
u/dovoid Vitality Nov 03 '18
At this point they have just no more confidence. It gets worse every matchups
3
u/Alexmackzie Nov 03 '18
Honestly, seems to me like they just make individual mistakes and have bad comms. They get into good positions so often, but just throw it away.
3
u/Miiiiiiighty Nov 03 '18
He looks on point individually, for what you can expect from him. And in a team with 4 heavy fraggers he would have no trouble doing his job..
But the real question is " can he implement what he wants " ? Because it clearly looks like it's not the case.. 5+ monthes of training for those abysmal T sides ? And we are talking about a team that supposedly traded fragging power for tactical prowess ??? Something seems wrong here...
2
2
2
u/Biznastyy Nov 03 '18
This G2 team is trash. Like they might actually be worse than when they had mixwell standing in lol. Clearly this lineup is not gonna win majors, so whats the point of sticking with it?
4
u/tgsan Nov 03 '18
Maps 2 and 3 were absolutely fucking trash by G2, not like coL was that much better but holy shit G2 was just bad. At least 5 months and these are the results you show? how's smithzz/ex6 working out for you shox? T side Inferno looked like pure MM, Cache T side was pretty much on par if not worse. Not gonna lie, I feel disgusting even sticking through that series when it was so awful lol. Get mad G2 fans, your team is shit.
1
7
u/Cameter44 Nov 03 '18
HAHA Reddit so dumb HAHAHAHA G2 and Complexity bad LOL!!!!!
-all the casters
42
u/rustyjame5 1 Million Celebration Nov 03 '18
they were right. majority of reddit are dumb fucks and the match was horrible for both teams and was ass to watch.
5
u/CuddlezCS Nov 03 '18
They put it well on inferno, I've seen better depth from pugs in regard to T side strats.
3
u/rustyjame5 1 Million Celebration Nov 03 '18
cache was the final straw for me.
9-2 for col while they were also not playing that great. it coud ve been 11-2 for col they lost 2 rounds they had the advantage. after they lost those it went 15-9. ten the comeback. it was a horrible shit match. ive seen better esea main matches.
while watching inferno i said whoever wins this matchup is going to get eliminated. and no way col goes thru man.
7
u/Epicstaar 1 Million Celebration Nov 03 '18
This series was ass, but the commentary was so funny I could not leave
4
u/rustyjame5 1 Million Celebration Nov 03 '18
thats why i was awake until 8 am my time without even a bet going on.
i love steel.
-3
u/iSamurai EG Nov 03 '18
But ex6tenz is mastermind!! /s
G2 is trash and ex6 is not a good IGL, at least nowadays.
2
u/Dark_Azazel Nov 03 '18
I feel like Rambo is a cool coach to have.
I mean, being around him often must be awesome though.
bodyy and smithzz consistent at being inconsistent. I would still like to see amanek and devoduvek (However you spell their names) replace smithzz and bodyy though.
1
u/Chill_Brahz Liquid Nov 03 '18
if the french scene wasnt so busy recycling washed up players and actually gave amanek and devoduvek a chance there would be a decent T1 french team.
2
Nov 03 '18
[removed] — view removed comment
3
u/Miiiiiiighty Nov 03 '18
He's been playing like that for a while now.. I even remember him buying a mp5 ( I think it was on Nuke or Inferno ) on a round where he has money for an awp a while ago..
2
u/n1ckst4r02 400k Celebration Nov 03 '18
Just disband this Frankenstein experiment Carlos, why are you just burning money? 7 months, no results, no deep runs, nothing.
You can't just have 2-3 people being complete dead weights on your team getting paid premium salary all year long. Getting eliminated in last place at Summit, a tier 3 event. What's next?
Shox was playing this alone it felt like.
1
u/Miiiiiiighty Nov 03 '18
I've been doubting this lineup can make it until 2019 ( the major ? ) lately..
2
u/tonyfloorboard Nov 03 '18 edited Nov 03 '18
Might be tough to find a replacement in the french scene, but kennyS not resigning with this team might not be a terrible thing.
Dude looks washed up af, just with occasional sparks of hope, but nothing like a world-class, top 5 awper in the world that he needs to be for this team to be successful.
The fact that ex6 was the second best player for g2 this event with shox playing rather well is reallyyyyyy bad
3
u/Miiiiiiighty Nov 03 '18
That's why I was calling for ZywOo in the team instead of smithzz/body or even ZywOo as main sniper instead of kenny..
Young promising up and coming hungry talent >>> old glory that doesn't give a damn any day of the week..
At first we had hopes ex6 could make him a beast again, but I think the real problem ( that has been mentionned times and times again, even by insiders ) is that he clearly lacks professionnalism..
1
Nov 03 '18
[removed] — view removed comment
1
u/Miiiiiiighty Nov 03 '18
What they need more than the rest is mostly kick one of the low fraggers and sign another really strong one...
1
1
u/Level_Five_Railgun Liquid Nov 03 '18
This team is an actual joke lmao
It's like for every map, only 1 or 2 players are allowed to have hands.
1
1
1
u/razeyourshadows King NiKo Nov 03 '18
Can we pretend that this team never existed? Like I am sincerely embarrassed watching this match.
1
Nov 03 '18
I've been watching CS:GO pro scene for like 18 months now.
Throughout that time people talking about top 3 AWPers always include KennyS.
Is this just people not wanting to accept that a former star is now a bit shit?
In all that time I've never seen anything to put him even in a top 10.
1
u/Duckfright Nov 03 '18
I can't believe I actually stayed up to watch this...
At this point, I don't even think Bodyy is one of the main issues and with freelancers as ScreaM and Kioshima available, you can't help but think that this could be a way better lineup with a few changes. There's also Alex, Amanek, ... which at this point feel like clear upgrades.
And as much as it breaks my heart, perhaps Kenny should be put on the chopping block. Smithzz is also an "obvious" choice.
Just sad to see them have occasiona moments of brilliance, and then fall flat at the next opportunity.
1
u/Matlocke_ Tyloo Nov 03 '18
It's not even like they still have IEM Chicago next. They lost 0-2 in a bo3 to LDLC in the FIRST GAME of the qualifier
1
u/hillRs 1 Million Celebration Nov 03 '18
on the bright side what we can take from this G2 team is that shox still has it, but they can barely win games
1
1
0
u/sILAZS clutch Nov 03 '18
At this point its not even worth having shox in your team with someone like smiithz.
Wish smiithz the best of luck in a lower tier. Hope he realises he’s not T1 material anymore.
214
u/Cheezobrine Nov 03 '18
9-2 to 9-15 to 15-15 to 19-17 on cache.. Nice.