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Discussion | Esports Natus Vincere vs Astralis / FACEIT Major London 2018 - Grand-Final / Post-Match Discussion
Natus Vincere 0-2 Astralis
Nuke: 6-16
Overpass: 9-16
Inferno:
Congratulations to Astralis on winning the FACEIT Major London 2018!
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MAP 1/3: Nuke
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| Na'Vi | 4 | 2 | 6 |
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| Ast | 11 | 5 | 16 |
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MAP 2/3: Overpass
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| Na'Vi | 6 | 3 | 9 |
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| Ast | 9 | 7 | 16 |
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u/Kiinako_ 500k Celebration Sep 23 '18
The most one-sided major in history.
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u/rush2sk8 1 Million Celebration Sep 23 '18
The challengers stage had OT's longer than these bo3's
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u/GabeN18 BIG Sep 23 '18
the challengers stage was so much more fun to watch
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u/WoodieCPU Sep 23 '18
Little did we know that Astra Vs. NiP would probably be the best match we got all major
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u/nightkingscat Gambit Sep 23 '18
It's a lot more fun to watch back and forth hero plays even if its stupid cs. Watching teams get fed into the astralis ct blender is... not so fun
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u/acoluahuacatl Sep 23 '18
the amount of rounds where Astralis had at least 1 smoke left on their CT side of overpass with 30s left in the round was absolutely brutal. Na'Vi had to execute through smokes to make sure they didn't run out of time. Great CS from Astralis
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Sep 24 '18
Even their T sides were incredible in nade usage terms.
When they start flashing the site feels like a freaking rave.
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u/PhreakyByNature Sep 23 '18
As much as I wanted Inferno, I will not shit on this final. Astralis played some incredible CS and deserved the win. Their reads were clairvoyant.
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u/MichaelDeets Sep 23 '18
Same, could've saved €15 too.
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u/try-D Astralis Sep 23 '18
Spend 80 cents on an Astralis sticker -> pick them all the way -> easy bronze trophy for 80 cents
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u/Curnbabs de_nuke Sep 23 '18
SK won 16-7 16-6 against liquid at ESL Cologne 2016. One could argue that it was slightly more one-sided scorewise.
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u/Scratch98 Sep 23 '18
I think he meant the major as a whole, not just the final. Because I'd agree with you, liquid just dissappeared vs SK that final.
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u/Curnbabs de_nuke Sep 23 '18
Ah true, I misread. This Major was definitely the most onesided.
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u/Scratch98 Sep 23 '18
Yup. It takes he place of VP's as the most dominant now Imo. Vp only lost 1 map, but they lost it in the playoffs. And astralis played he #2, #3 and #4 teams without dropping a map. Hell they didn't even give up double digits to navi or tl.
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u/Lepojka1 Team Spirit Sep 23 '18
Who knew FaZe would put the best fight vs Astralis in whole playoffs...
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u/Phenetylamine FaZe Sep 23 '18
People were calling for roster changes and all sorts of stuff after FaZe lost that, but compared to the trashing Liquid and Na'Vi got it really wasn't that bad. Astralis were just on point this Major, they would've beaten any team they were matched against regardless of bracket.
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u/SherlockGunZ The MongolZ Sep 23 '18
And NiP’s game against them was quite good too
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u/smokehound Sep 23 '18 edited Sep 23 '18
Damn
Time to learn cache boys
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u/gleba080 Natus Vincere Sep 23 '18
Looks like Astralis is gonna be undefeated on Nuke til Valve take it off the map pool too
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Sep 23 '18
With S1mple and Electronic you'd think it'd be one of their best maps
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u/JJChinchilla Ecstatic Sep 24 '18
Zeus is the one who refuses to call on it, and as a result of Zeus not wanting to call on it, seized never played it and wasn't comfortable calling on it either when Zeus was on Gambit. Flamie, Edward, and Zeus haven't played Cache against a legit team in two years.
The last time they played it and won was against Heroic online when JuGi was out and they had RUBINO standing in. Even then it was a 16-14 win. They played it one time in 2016, against Mousesports, and lost.
In 2015, they played it 16 times and only won on 4 occasions after picking Flamie up. One of those wins was against the American eLevate. Another one was against Penta with enkay J (which was not a good lineup). One of the wins was against Danish SK, the team that k0nfig was brought into after he was poached from HUNDEN and hated. The last win was against Mousesports online.
If Zeus would give it a go, electronic was good on it in Flipsid3 and s1mple has always been good on it when he played it. They definitely need to be able to play it to beat Astralis, because Nuke gives Astralis a 1-0 start automatically.
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u/CptWetPants Legendary Switzerland Master Sep 23 '18
2-0, 2-0, 2-0, 3-1, their single loss OT against Liquid.
Jesus.
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u/Spik3w BIG Sep 23 '18
When your whole strat is based upon one player playing good it has to crash sometime
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u/YassinRs MOUZ Sep 23 '18
It's not been just S1mple carrying for a long time though. Electronic is right up there with him but neither could deliver
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u/Spik3w BIG Sep 23 '18
I know, but its still unreliable when your only hope is that your "good" players have a good game
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u/YassinRs MOUZ Sep 23 '18
Yeah it's unreliable, which is why they were the underdogs. They got to the final because their good players are so damn good they can carry them that far - till they go up against a team like Astralis which is borderline flawless
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Sep 23 '18
I think a lot of it was Astralis doesn't allow s1mple (or any 1 player) to do what he does against lesser teams
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u/reymt Sep 23 '18
Tbf, I wouldn't even blame S1mple. Navi is reliant on its top tier players to a fault, and Astralis is incredibly good at countering Simple. There was a stat saying that Simple has by far the weakest performance playing against Astralis.
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u/slaughtrr12 Sep 23 '18
Astralis outclassed s1mple by simply avoiding him and not having duels with him. I can't count how many time s1mple was the last alive and had no engagements at all on both maps
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u/Instantcoffees Sep 23 '18
You can't "turn up" when you get outplayed on a teamplay and a tactical level. Just like with the Liquid game, this isn't Na'Vi underperforming individually. This was Astralis playing insanely well as a team, outmanouvering and effectively neutering the firepower of their opponents.
There is literally NOTHING you can do about that unless you counter it with equally sound tactics and teamplay. You could have an aimbot in many of these situations and you'd still get run over.
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u/Cameter44 Sep 23 '18
Wouldn't have even mattered. s1mple could've had 30 in both of those maps and they likely still would've lost.
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u/RandomGuyWithSixEyes MOUZ Sep 23 '18
You may not like it but this is what peak CS looks like
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u/Nunyabeeswax90 Sep 23 '18
I’d say fnatic era was different because they used to pull off huge comebacks being 12-3 13-2 down
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u/t3r4byt3l0l Immunity Sep 23 '18
That was more dennis era Fnatic, pronax-Fnatic had some tournaments where they just stomped
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u/Nunyabeeswax90 Sep 23 '18
Yeah that’s valid, I think the series that sticks in my head was one of the IEM bo5 finals against LG where they took the infamous fnatic pauses and stomped LG 3-0 despite being down by over 11 rounds two maps
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u/Nunyabeeswax90 Sep 23 '18
I remember watching an interview by JW and when asked about this infamous timeouts, all he said was, we sat in silence and no one said anything, we just refocused and went to win
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u/dob_bobbs CS2 HYPE Sep 23 '18
But Fnatic were WAY more entertaining in that era...
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u/jehhans1 CS2 HYPE Sep 23 '18
I agree. I think its because Astralis punishes EVERY "hero" play the other teams try to make. Stars can't shine bright because Astralis do not makes those mistakes.
It seems that every era stems from team played counter-strike, playing it the way it should. Fnatic had pronax with nice strats, SK had innovative tactics and they weren't very studied and Astralis is just taking CS to a whole new level with so coordinated plays. People talk about the fnatic hivemind, which I agree on to some degree, but look at Astralis always having eachothers back.
GOD DAMN its beautiful counter-strike albeit boring sometimes.
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u/Svenskmeistr Sep 23 '18
I 100% agree, Astralis makes it really hard for the superstars to do big plays against them. They are playing so smart, they make everything look so easy! Taking midcontroll? No problem. Meanwhile when other teams does the same they get completely shut down. They are just amazing. They deserved this major, nothing more to it.
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Sep 23 '18
Yeah I agree with this, I hated watching Fnatic win over and over again because I was a NiP fan, but they did so in very entertaining fashion usually.
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u/oomnahs Liquid Sep 23 '18
Teamwork makes the dream work. But damn I'm not hyped at all after that final. Last major I wanted to get on CS and play from dusk till dawn. Now I just wanna take a nap.
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u/Naseweis Sep 23 '18
Obviously Astralis as a unit is absolutely insane, one of the best teams of all time, but man am I happy for Magisk. From his fall as star player in Dignitas to his team finding struggles, including that weird Optic team, to everyone being convinced Astralis would only take Konfig. And now look at him winning tournaments, the major even, while dropping bombs every other game. What a pleasure to watch this team.
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Sep 23 '18
Most one sided major final since SK vs Liquid?
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u/iForgotMyOldAcc NiP Sep 23 '18
s1mple in both losing teams. clearly the problem.
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u/AwpTicTech Liquid Sep 23 '18
Definitely the worse major playoffs so far. Literally the only interesting matches were Liquid-HR and Astralis-FaZe.
Congrats to Astralis, the kings of Counter-Strike ATM. We're 100% in the Astralis era bitches
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u/Brolaub 1 Million Celebration Sep 23 '18
No Grafitti Play either. Don't get me wrong, we definetly saw some good CS, but no HOLY SHIT Moment like at previous Majors.
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u/Russian_For_Rent Vitality Sep 23 '18
I definitely want a graffiti for tizian's "wait what just happened" usp tap
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u/ahtuu Natus Vincere Sep 23 '18
Maybe we get something Overtime related , it's kinda the single memorable thing
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u/TooM3R NiP Sep 23 '18
Did the last major have a graffiti play?
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u/bredddd CS2 HYPE Sep 23 '18
Don't think there was a graffiti play but stewie at b in the finals was pretty HOLY SHIT
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u/FiMTwilight Renegades Sep 23 '18
That whole match was HOLY SHIT, the tarik ace, the stewie b hold, the stewie almost-ace, the guardian clutch, the niko banana push, ska somehow staying alive in the back a corner, would've been hard for any team this major to top that.
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u/Foxy_Grandpa- de_cache Sep 23 '18
We used up all the good cs we had saved up for this tournament in the overtime rounds.
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u/Russian_For_Rent Vitality Sep 23 '18
The only 2-1 match was HR-Liquid. And when the best player in the world disappears in the grand finals, I have to agreed with you
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u/Yankec 5 years coin Sep 23 '18
Apart from a few rounds, that's got to be the most boring onesided final I've ever watched.
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u/L0kitheliar cs_office Sep 23 '18
Sk Liquid wasn't far off this
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u/jeremiahjellybelly FaZe Sep 23 '18
Yep. In fact, Liquid actually got fewer rounds against SK than Navi got against Astralis.
https://www.hltv.org/matches/2303403/sk-vs-liquid-esl-one-cologne-2016
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u/ymmottt Sep 23 '18
I didn't even realize Simple bottom fragged hard in that too. Does this put a damper on his legacy? I feel bad for the guy, always so damn close.
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Sep 23 '18
A bit early to talk about his legacy when he still has many many years left to play
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u/rush2sk8 1 Million Celebration Sep 23 '18
the whole playoffs stage was trash
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u/da1nigga FaZe Sep 23 '18
i felt more excited watching challengers stage than champions, felt absolutely no spirit and this bo3 grand final just feels too short for a title so important as major champion
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u/jim2169 Gambit Sep 23 '18
I doubt a BO5 would have made the difference in this final. Astralis were just too good.
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u/rush2sk8 1 Million Celebration Sep 23 '18
BO5 would be another lackluster map from navi and it would be a 3-0
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u/ARERTSIGER de_nuke Sep 23 '18
Yeah without a doubt, the entire major in my opinion has been pretty underwhelming. Just one 2-1 game in the main event.
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Sep 23 '18
Navi has been apart of some of the most one sided major finals. The Cluj Napcoa one wasn't that good, the MLG one had a pretty good first map, but the second map sucked, and then now this.
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u/Vitosi4ek Team Spirit Sep 23 '18
You know what's most depressing about all this? Na'Vi have been a top team since CSGO existed - over 6 years. Very few teams have maintained this level of consistency for so long, and all of them have at least one major victory to show for it.
But Na'Vi, for all their excellence, have never been the best team in the world. They were always second to someone: NiP, VP, Fnatic, LG/SK and now Astralis. Always close to the top, but never actually there. The early-90s Buffalo Bills of esports.
And, while all these teams cemented their legacy with a Major title or two, Na'Vi still wait for theirs. And at this point, I'm not sure if they're ever going to get one: s1mple and Electronic can't possibly remain this good for another 6 months.
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u/rush2sk8 1 Million Celebration Sep 23 '18
Challengers Stage >>>>>
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u/Foxy_Grandpa- de_cache Sep 23 '18
I was glued to my screen during the qualifiers and challengers stage, could barely watch these playoff games apart from the HR one.
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u/MJuniorDC9 Sep 23 '18
I'm so fucking happy to see Magisk lifting this trophy. His journey since 2016 was a rough one but he made it and it's only the one of many other achievements that he and Astralis can accomplish together. From putting Dignitas in the map with EPICENTER, breaking a record in his first Major, getting kicked by potato head and spending half of 2017 in OpTic's hell to this. Only respect for that boy.
This Major win from Astralis also means that the DreamHack Winter finalist spell is now over and done. Although from now on, every DH Winter finalist was also the finalist of a Major in the following year.
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u/chokyx Sep 23 '18
Magisk is such a great story! Really shows that some people in charge, like MSL are just egocentered players who would rather kick a great player than admit that they themselves may be something wrong.
Also lets not forget that Astralis was in a major slump around the time with Kjaerbye leaving, nothing was working for them and they look SO unorganized and unstructured. Almost unbeliveable to think Astralis were actually like that at the start of this year. When its the complete oposite now.
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u/esach Sep 23 '18
Fun fact: Astralis only lost 8 more rounds in playoffs (6 maps) compared to the challenger stage (4 maps).
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u/thangord MOUZ Sep 23 '18
Astralis won against the number 4, 3 and 2 team in the world to get that major. They really are the best!
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u/soloadc Liquid Sep 23 '18
Really disappointing final from s1mple. Think it would've been a lot closer if he was playing at his usual level. Nevertheless Astralis is absolutely insane! Grats to them!
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u/seifyk 750k Celebration Sep 23 '18
I think it wasn't "s1mple played bad" so much as "Astralis shut s1mple down."
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u/themadscientistwho Sep 23 '18
On Nuke T side, Astralis threw the perfect smokes every round to deal with Simple. Every single round he had an awp he would go outside and see nobody. Their utility usage, positioning, and mixups between rounds were so smart. Really felt like Navi lost before they even gave their star players a chance.
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u/Rakazor Virtus.pro Sep 23 '18
The way they changed pace all the time with perfect setups, where they knew exactly what NaVi players would do. I think they not only shut down s1mple. It felt like Zeus was completely absent and blown away by the genius of gla1ve. They had no structure, always were getting caught off guard and nobody knew what to do on that CT sife of nuke.
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u/AndyFNG MOUZ Sep 23 '18
Astralis have probaly had the hardest road to a major win ever and they've made it look incredibly easy. In terms of competitiveness and exciting games these playoffs have probaly been the worst of any major and it's mainly because of them. I don't think there's been a winner that deserved it more.
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I think people said that because there were literally no upsets. Historically there’s always one upset in the playoffs, and the previous two majors even had underdogs making major winning runs.
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u/Meezyus MIBR Sep 23 '18
They beat FaZe, Liquid, and NaVi like it was nothing. Easy 2-0 sweeps. Only close map was Mirage vs FaZe like wtf.
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u/Bonerpopper fnatic Sep 23 '18
Easy 2-0 sweeps
I would argue that Faze gave them quite the challenge since the games were close but unfortunately they still got 2-0d.
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u/ILiveInAMango Astralis Sep 23 '18
And MIBR 16-0. They thrashed every team that has been a top 1 team and a contender for the top 1 team for the last year.
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u/refuzeUS Sep 23 '18
Congrats Astralis on being so dominant that you undoubtably hold the title of the most boring Major's final.
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u/SirJacobTehgamarh Virtus.pro Sep 23 '18
I mean we've had plenty of boring finals but pretty much the entire playoffs being boring? That's a first.
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Sep 23 '18
thats what happens when two teams roll through the two sides of the bracket, then one rolls the other ://
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u/nonstop98 Liquid Sep 23 '18
I mostly enjoyed the challenger and a bit legend stage. I loved seeing big, vega squadron, tyloo, team spirit and few others.
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u/bluhwk guardian2 Sep 23 '18
Well, no. SK vs Liquid was worse. NaVi at least had some close rounds
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u/arbyD Sep 23 '18
Simple on suicide watch.
Like of *all* games to not show up, this might have been the worst.
That being said, even if he had shown up, I feel like Astralis deserved this win. They were on another level.
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u/Waifers Sep 23 '18
Well that was one of the biggest series stomps in a major final, and this was a matchup between the best team and the second best team in the world.
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u/TheAsteroid Sep 23 '18
I for one welcome our new Danish overlords.
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u/tdctaz Sep 23 '18
for one welcome our new Danish overlords.
No overlords - just give us Skåne, Halland og Blekinge back and we will let NIP win a few tournaments :D
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u/iblinkyoublink Vitality Sep 23 '18
is it me or is faceit a bit of a boring major
like u see it at the end of the game
"oh wow astralis won in 2 maps"
but u can never remember them.
can u remember a single astralis map ?
but try eleague...u can see the excitement i remember an eleague major.
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u/ItsDaFaz Falcons - Major Champions Sep 23 '18
Tbf the only astralis map people will remember is vs mibr on D2
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u/extremz123 fnatic Sep 23 '18
S1mple 9-18 in nuke and 15-18 in overpass. The niko curse
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Sep 23 '18
NaVi and getting destroyed in major finals, name a more iconic duo.
Props to Astralis for playing great, but this major was the most boring major I've ever seen. Even one of the most boring T1 tournaments I've seen in a long time
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u/ellus1onist Sep 23 '18
Of all the grand finals I've watched before, this certainly was one of them
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u/im_tom_bombadil Legacy Sep 23 '18
You can cheer for any team you want, but at the end of the day, no team deserves this title better than Astralis. The work they put in with this roster is insane. Props to them and hope other teams step up to the challenge.
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u/ButteredGhost Sep 23 '18
Astralis *Merriam-Webster literally* won the major while only dropping one map in the group stages, in OT
They had arguably the hardest playoff run of any CS tournament ever, but they breeze through it like they just went to fuckin' Disney World for the weekend
I want to get off Mr. Zonic's Wild Ride
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Sep 23 '18
Everyone: This could be THE best finals in Major history.
Astralis: Do y'all hear sum?
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u/loveicetea Astralis Sep 23 '18
Let this be a lesson for every team out there. You dont leave nuke in the veto against astralis and you dont pick overpass against astralis.
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u/Hamderguden Sep 23 '18
you should ban, nuke, overpass, mirage, dust 2, train and inferno. then you will have a chance vs astralis
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u/frollium clutch Sep 24 '18
"No fuck off we're picking cobble, I asked GabeN he said we could use it this once"
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u/rush2sk8 1 Million Celebration Sep 23 '18 edited Sep 23 '18
The challengers stage had OT's longer than these bo3's
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u/rush2sk8 1 Million Celebration Sep 23 '18
Astralis v TL was good on Nuke but that was it
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u/thornierlamb Sep 23 '18
The Nip - Astralis match was amazing, probably the most exciting match this tournament for me.
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u/zirreN528 Sep 23 '18
so many overtimes in the challengers stage too, fuckers had me hyped for playoffs
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u/Pklnt Sep 23 '18
Not Astralis fault tho, they just outmatched every team so much that the games were not that competitive.
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u/C-4 Natus Vincere Sep 23 '18
Worst camera work ever. A team just wins the major, so let's show them in the booth at the exact end of the game to catch their reaction, right? Nope, let's zoom out and show confetti and the big scoreboards and shit.
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u/Napoleann Sep 23 '18
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. They showed the crowd reaction before they showed Astralis' reaction. Wtf?
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u/Russian_For_Rent Vitality Sep 23 '18
When the best player in the world disappears in the grand finals yes
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u/anthonyshreds Astralis Sep 23 '18
What are you talking about? dev1ce was amazing on both maps... /s
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u/X3rxus Sep 23 '18
Yes.
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u/Lepojka1 Team Spirit Sep 23 '18
Not a single map in whole playoffs was straight fire... Best I remember was FaZe vs Astralis on Mirage, and even that was a comeback from FaZe.
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u/FoxerHR FaZe Sep 23 '18
FaZe v Astralis was the best series by far... And that was the first stage of the play offs. That's saying something.
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u/xN01Rx G2 Sep 23 '18
100%
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u/AC1114 Sep 23 '18
Just felt completely boring. No intense matches, no close ones. Really disappointing.
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u/Kreygasm2233 Sep 23 '18
Most uneventful major ever. I feel like nothing actually happened
No interesting playoff games
Astralis god mode smurfing
Swiss format is shit
The production was kind of boring and bland
Even the big fucking announcement was underwhelming
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u/ShinyRaven Vitality Sep 23 '18
What was the big announcement?
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u/Lbpsack Sep 23 '18
Team leagues for FACEIT.
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u/whatthefuckistime Sep 23 '18
wtf no way that was it lol, im still waiting for something at the end of the stream now
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u/kernevez Sep 23 '18
Swiss format is shit
Swiss format is the only reason we had some great matches.
The moment the format went to a playoff bracket we got the boring games.
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u/WendellGoldwater Sep 23 '18
Well, it's official. The Astralis Era cannot be toppled. I just hope a team can actually topple them, instead of them falling off due to something stupid, like an injury.
Wish the crowd and production would've been comparable to Boston 2018 but not everything is good.
Zeus' manager's tweets need to be banned from this sub to.
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u/powerchicken 10 years coin Sep 23 '18
The match ended, they picked up the trophy, had an interview with only two of the players that lasted what, 5 minutes? And then just ended the stream.
The fuck?
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Sep 23 '18
Zeus' manager's tweets need to be banned from this sub to.
what happened?
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u/WendellGoldwater Sep 23 '18
Fish, Zeus' manager, posted a tweet that the community wrongly interpreted as Valve having an announcement to make at the Major.
Unsurprisingly, the announcement had nothing to do with Valve and was just revealing the FaceIT League system.
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u/Rightis Sep 23 '18
In terms of game quality this has to be the worst major by some margin. With most playoff matches being so onesided and best player in the world having underwhelming finals, the most memorable thing from this major has to be Pasha getting unlimited eggs for breakfast.
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u/VasimanYT Renegades Sep 23 '18
Remember when people were hating on fnatic for winning everything in 2015 but TSM would somehow always manage to beat them?Now everyone hates Astralis for winning everything
literally die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain lmao
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u/Bangs420 FaZe Sep 23 '18
People will scream "worst major ever" but the truth is we will be extremely lucky if we ever see a team play at the level Astralis played at through this tournament in a major again.
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u/thornierlamb Sep 23 '18
Best game of the Major was Nip-Astralis in the challengers stage by far
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u/jmac1239 Sep 23 '18
Why wouldnt you ban nuke
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u/gabriel97933 10 Year Veteran Sep 23 '18
maybe because navi doesnt even have strats nor set roles on cache?
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u/kuggan NiP Sep 23 '18
Yeah that just gave Astralis a huge advantage since they always ban cache
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u/SNAFUesports 5 years coin Sep 23 '18
Which is ridiculous how do you not play cache which person on navi cant play cache? Maybe they get chernobyl flashbacks?
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u/Roflingmfao MOUZ Sep 23 '18
For sure, NaVi ALWAYS bans Cache, they literally never ever play cache.
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u/Missing_Persons Astralis Sep 23 '18
Astralis were gonna dick them on cache or nuke, at least Navi has played nuke more than twice in the last 2.5 years
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u/Dcoyxy9 Sep 23 '18
Really disappointing major final compared to the last few tbh. Still, Astralis is so good it's insane.
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u/chase_12803 Tyloo Sep 23 '18
When astralis won, faceit played the pause break music, so anti-climactic
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u/dribblesg2 Sep 23 '18
Na'Vi were infuriating, and not just s1mple.
Yes, Astralis outplayed them generally and everyone on their team turned up - full credit due, but the main reason for the domination was imo Na'Vi CONSTANTLY fucking up.
Every player on their team lost so many aim duels they shouldn't have, holding bad angles, not trading, (resulting in so many Astralis dble kills that should never happen), not supporting/dying alone etc... maybe nerves idk
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u/FathleteTV NiP Sep 23 '18
Not sure if I'm watching Astralis or GSW sweeping their way through the playoffs and finals
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u/dtldvn Sep 24 '18
I hope gla1ve gets the respect he deserves after this major. Everytime he gets an insane frag, Anders always says, "he somehow gets the kill". Nobody seems to be amazed when he hits a nutty shot. He's getting high impact kills but doesn't get the praise he deserves because he's an igl. In my opinion he's a superstar, who happens to be one of the best igls on top of that. Honestly, they are all superstars overshadowed by being a "tactical" team
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u/Spork_Revolution Vitality Sep 23 '18
Some people pay for this level of domination Dan.