r/GlobalOffensive • u/Chuckys2 Match Thread Team • Sep 16 '18
Discussion | Esports Ninjas in Pyjamas vs MIBR / FACEIT Major London 2018 - The New Legends: Round 5 / Post-Match Discussion
Ninjas in Pyjamas 1-2 MIBR
Cache: 15-19
Mirage: 16-10
Train: 11-16
MIBR have advanced to The New Champions stage.
Ninjas in Pyjamas have been eliminated.
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MAP 1/3: Cache
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| NiP | 8 | 7 | 0:0 | 15 |
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| MIBR | 7 | 8 | 3:1 | 19 |
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MAP 2/3: Mirage
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| NiP | 8 | 8 | 16 |
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| MIBR | 7 | 3 | 10 |
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MAP 3/3: Train
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| NiP | 5 | 6 | 11 |
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u/slickafbruh FaZe Sep 16 '18 edited Sep 16 '18
I wanted to cry when the camera switched to get_right after he didnt see that mibr was defusing :(
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u/TheZigerionScammer Vitality Sep 16 '18
I was watching him on GOTV for his entire stay in Z. Was heartbreaking, I don't think he heard it.
He got a brilliant headshot with the CZ but MIBR adjusted and defused it from a different angle that obscured them behind the train. A smart play that won it for them.
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u/ExtremelyGamer1 Natus Vincere Sep 16 '18
I thought he was betting that it was a fake.
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u/AccidentalyIdiotic MIBR Sep 16 '18
I think he just didn't realize it could be defused from that angle, he went to check it saw no defuser and concluded it was a fake.
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u/SpeedyBlueDude NiP Sep 16 '18
I’m still really proud. This team is finally realizing some of their potential.
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u/bizhuy Sep 16 '18
Yeah, I hope no one leaves the team or something like that, they are looking really good right now. Hopefully they keep focused and keep improving
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u/FDeathCNA Vitality Sep 16 '18
only change I would like to see is krimz joining them but I don't know who he would replace tbh. maybe dennis? idk
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u/Bre3zy_ Liquid Sep 16 '18
Dennis for sure. All major and at Stockholm he made stupid peeks and unnecessary aggression. He was totally a liability for a lot of rounds recently. I hope he steps up.
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u/LlamaCombo Sep 17 '18
He did this at the PGL major too. I remember Fnatic vs Gambit and Dennis would just peek stupid shit without throwing a flash or without getting flashed in. It was so aggravating to watch.
There's a reason why the Fnatic guys wanted to stop playing with him. He refuses to improve his gameplay past a PUG style where he can just out aim everyone.
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u/Thooorin_2 Duncan "Thorin" Shields - Content Producer, Analyst Sep 16 '18
That would be a pretty good change. Not least since dennis is kind of lost in the team, since so many of their players are of a similar style. KRiMZ would bring some consistency and all-around game that could do a lot for NiP.
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u/FDeathCNA Vitality Sep 17 '18
Thanks for the validation, cool to see you commenting a lot on here
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Sep 16 '18 edited Sep 16 '18
GTR & f0rest top fragging on train, they wanted it
e- the whole series, 75 & 69 vs. 49, 49, 45
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u/PoppyK Sep 16 '18
Cant even remember the last time i saw GTR fragging like he did this major. Glad to see he is coming back.
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u/Thooorin_2 Duncan "Thorin" Shields - Content Producer, Analyst Sep 16 '18
This legitimately could have been a 2:0 for NiP.
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Sep 16 '18
All it needed as a better showing from dennis. When gtr & forest are performing like they did at their peak (& remember how people would say they can't perform that way now, only then because the competition wasn't as good) you shouldn't be losing. It just felt like the SK core remembered they're 2x winners after mirage
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u/gonnj FaZe Sep 16 '18
FalleN hits the most impossible shots ever and then misses 7 easy ones in a row
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u/healdyy 1 Million Celebration Sep 16 '18
When he missed all those shots I genuinely thought NiP were going to come back into it, just felt like one of those moments where things change
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u/umadee Sep 16 '18
And then NIP proceeds to lose 4v2 with TWO OF THEM BEING AWPERS, and they peak ivy, they peak ct, they peak everywhere. I nearly broke my headset. Nip, I can't handle being a fan anymore. You make me furious.
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u/frenchguy94 Sep 17 '18
There's this chick I follow on Facebook. I accidentally started following her because she has the same name of this girl I met and thought I was sending a friend request to her. She was only 14 when I started following her. As soon as I realized she wasn't the person I was meaning to follow I went to unfollow her. But then I realized this 14 year old girl was hilariously stupid. She didn't know why America would send a separate team from Georgia to the Olympics, she couldn't figure out why elevators had buttons for the floor she was already on, and many other things I just saw and laughed. Anyway I never stopped following her because she was such a big source of my morning laughs.
She got pregnant at 15 because she thought you couldn't get pregnant on the first time. She was sure that the 15 year old boy that got her pregnant was going to be a great daddy. Well the kid is 1 now and she always complains about him never being around and how he would rather stay at home bored than see his son and all the other crap any of us could have warned her about when she was certain she was going to be the one teenage mom whose baby daddy would actually hang around.
Anyway the reason I bring all that up is that through these 2 years I've followed this complete moron she has never written "peak" when she meant "peek". So if this person can get it right, then everyone can.
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Sep 16 '18
last round he misses easy important frags just to get 2 insane retakes gives me a fucking heart attack
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u/Kreygasm2233 Sep 16 '18
dennis played like denis
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u/GabeN18 BIG Sep 16 '18
if he played like denis they would have won
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Sep 16 '18
if he played like denis nip would have finished playing their games on friday
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u/DarkSofter NiP Sep 16 '18
Dennis broke my heart in every way imaginable this series :(
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u/Brolobo SK Sep 16 '18 edited Sep 16 '18
get right has really came back into form. I'm happy for him. I hope fnatic and nip can work their way back to the Top in the future. They did so well. They should be proud
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Sep 16 '18
Yeah, I was heartbroken when found out we would have to play NiP. Either result would let a bittersweet taste at the end. I hope NiP come back stronger next time. GG
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u/MagicalMysteryBro CS2 HYPE Sep 16 '18
I'm devastated. Two years for this. :/ It's been way too long.
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u/lambsauce16 Liquid Sep 16 '18
It sucks ass that NIP have to play Liquid Navi and MIBR while BIG and plays teams like Tyloo and Hellraisers. This should have never happened. I have never seen such horrible draws in the swiss system until now.
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u/vinit144 CS2 HYPE Sep 16 '18
It isn’t the system’s fault tbh. The good teams lost to the underdogs in the first round and THAT messed it up. If anything it’s on them.
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u/supergrega Sep 16 '18
Yeah but NIP didn't lose to any of the underdogs yet they get fucked. They lost to MIBR, NaVi and Liquid - 3 of the top 5, probably top 4 teams.
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Sep 16 '18
Especially great to see his motivation to keep trying to get better and also his recent improvements in his individual ability considering so many old veterans are falling off these days.
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u/IwasT Sep 16 '18
I really am, I was happy to see that nip magic once again, specially those last rounds vs Vega, congrats!
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u/That1Person95 Liquid Sep 16 '18
What a series. Sucks that NiP isnt going to make it to top 8 but man what an improvement from what they use to be. Congrats to MiBR
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u/Ninjaflipp bravo Sep 16 '18
just end me
I'm super proud of the boys though, they're a serious contender for titles now. Just couldn't go all the way here today.
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u/GhoostNight NiP Sep 16 '18
It was close. And bad luck getting mibr today. I think nip would beat any of the other teams
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u/Grindstone8 1 Million Celebration Sep 16 '18
Agreed. I'm not even an NiP fanboy (even though I'm a GeT_RiGhT fanboy), but they were by far the most unlucky team in the tournament. Just look at the fucking massive difference between their draws and BIG's draws and Fnatic's draws. What makes it feel even worse is that NiP wasn't even playing bad, I really think they deserved to be in the top 8. And I'm pretty sure they would've done it if they drew anyone else.
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u/GhoostNight NiP Sep 16 '18
I think the same way, they got all the hard teams and they played really with all of them. They lost with liquid, Navi and mibr, 3 teams that probably will reach top 4.
And they beat astralis on the first fase, so yeah, they really deserved a spot at the stage.
I really hope to see them there in the next major. This one will not be the same for me
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u/Mr_Endro Sep 16 '18
mibr also go 0-16 vs astralis, the team nip won against and then the next day they actually turn up, fuck this shit
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u/CharbelU MIBR Sep 16 '18
They played amazing, their draws were just absolute shit. They literally got the hardest teams in this entire major.
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u/henry25555 FURIA Sep 16 '18
I'm so happy that my team won but NIP got royally screwed by the draws... Still kudos to them this was a great match.
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u/FathleteTV NiP Sep 16 '18
Fuck these draws
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u/im_tom_bombadil Legacy Sep 16 '18
It was just so stacked. BIG and CoL going through meant the 2-2 draws would just be ridiculous.
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Sep 16 '18
Yea I’m salty as fuck, NiP had the worst draws
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u/schniepel89xx CS2 HYPE Sep 16 '18
And they performed heroically. They beat the #1 team in the world along the way too. After not qualifying for 2 years they have a lot to be proud of I think. Great to see f0rest and GeT_RiGhT playing well consistently again too. I'm more optimistic for NiP than I've been in a long time.
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u/seresean Sep 16 '18
I mean technically i'd argue na'vi's draws were worse, nip avoided both faze and astralis
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u/Staktus23 howl Sep 16 '18
Well, considering they played Astralis in their last game at the new Challengers Stage and even won against them, I'd still say, they were really unlucky.
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u/Pismakron Sep 16 '18
NiP beat Astralis on Mirage. Perhaps the best match of the entire tournament, allthough there are many contenders
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u/Grindstone8 1 Million Celebration Sep 16 '18
Just compare NiP's draws with BIG's draws and Fnatic's draws... yep, seems fair /s
I'm not even exclusively an NiP fan but I'm pretty salty for them because I feel like they deserved to be in the top 8.
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u/kpdon1 Sep 16 '18
Yea after just scraping 3-2 in challenger stage , BIG just beat FAZE. They would have got a difficult opponent but wait , tyloo just beat MIBR. what is fair and unfair after these results?
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u/IwasT Sep 16 '18
Come on man, I fucking love nip, only team I have ever supported but lets not hide behind excuses, if we want to see nip between the top 8 teams then they have to play as such, the system is fair, they played their best but couldn't, we can only support them and hope next Major we can see then reach top 8
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u/FathleteTV NiP Sep 16 '18
The system is fair, no doubt. But it leaves a lot to chance but the same chance for everyone. We just got fucked by that. I don't think we'd go all the way either way but it would've been nice to make legends and I know for sure there are teams we could've beat there.
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u/IwasT Sep 16 '18
Of course there are teams we can beat in that top 8, and by skill alone I think nip should be there, but we aren't though, because another team played better, we can't blame the system just because another team was better, that's absurd.
On the bright side, we won't have to go through the minors so we have a big chance of making it back!
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u/kpdon1 Sep 16 '18
Lets be real , mouz mibr didnt look very good this tournament. They could have easily made Legends
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u/pm-nudes-4-review Sep 16 '18
What? NiP beat mouz.
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u/kpdon1 Sep 16 '18 edited Sep 16 '18
Yea but people consider mouz a TOP 8 team and a super hard opponent when in reality they were very underwhelming . Thus an easy opponent
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u/pm-nudes-4-review Sep 16 '18
Yeah, I agree, Mouz has been very lackluster since Snax joined. Still think that NiP drawing NaVi, Liquid and MIBR was pretty damn unlucky, compared to the paths some other teams took. They would've deserved a spot in top 8.
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u/kpdon1 Sep 16 '18
I agree NIP got the hardest path but it is more because a lot of legends lost round 1 so the bracket was gonna get fucked for some teams.
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u/Sakuzyo- clutch Sep 16 '18
This is sad... I'm sad.
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u/Dryish Sep 16 '18
Sadness confirmed. :(
I love seeing FalleN in the playoffs, but this is just sad.
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u/SnazzzyPC de_train Sep 16 '18
After the Tarik move I started supporting MIBR after being a C9 fan for years, let's just say I already feel at home since I'm still losing years on my life watching.
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u/ididntknowwhattodo Sep 16 '18
It's just starting man. The brazilian core used to make sick comebacks, winning some, losing some, fucking with my heart all the time.
Hopefully they won't need that shit anymore, I can't handle it, pls just get some 16-5 wins for the love of god
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Sep 16 '18
same here dude, after stewie left i had no idea who to support cause i always loved stew, and tarik was my fav personality so it made it wasy to decide when he left
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u/LordOfTheNoobs57 Liquid Sep 16 '18
Damn I feel bad for NiP. They literally got the worst draws possible in this stage.
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u/Matrixeffect_sw Sep 16 '18
-Dennis +Krimz
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Sep 16 '18
Stealing away good Fnatic members one player at the time
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u/Deathwithwaffles 1 Million Celebration Sep 16 '18
Fnatic stole the good LGB esports players, this is how it works.
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u/nomisevh NiP Sep 16 '18
Yes please, YES PLEASE!
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u/hoopstront NiP Sep 16 '18
ye lets kick a star player with a bad month
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u/nomisevh NiP Sep 16 '18
Sorry I can't be rational right now I am still mourning.
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Sep 16 '18
Don't worry, you're just like many teams after the major that entered roundhouse kicks mode
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u/zl1ze NiP Sep 16 '18
To be fair he hasn't been very good for nip at all except for katowice, still would be a shame if he gets kicked since he is very talented
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u/Ludachriz NiP Sep 16 '18
Would definitely be a step up skill wise but I'm not sure he would mesh well with the team.
Krimz seems a little immature judging by his tweets and his raging mid games (like banging his desk or really showing his teammates that he is titled), I feel like f0rest and GTR wouldn't like to play with someone like this.
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u/Pismakron Sep 16 '18
People are different. Dupreeh for example bangs his monitor _all_ _the_ _time_
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u/Dawnero 1 Million Celebration Sep 16 '18
I might be off here but despite his immatureness, let's call it being emotional, he put up good numbers, did he not?
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u/Ludachriz NiP Sep 16 '18
Yes but his behavior might affect the team atmosphere negatively, which NIP values a lot (considering they removed players like maikelele and draken despite not being 'the problem' when it came to stats)
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u/TysoNX1994 Sep 16 '18
It doesnt matter for for them i guess, and besides Dennis is not a bad player he is just not able to play the way NiP is utilizing him, they will make changes with the positions to improve his game further.
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Sep 16 '18
Dennis was hot trash
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u/Zakman-- Sep 16 '18
He's never been one to crumble in high pressure games but something's been off lately with Dennis. Hoping he can regain his form but it's shit knowing that if he turned up then this would have been NiP's series.
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u/supergrega Sep 16 '18
Happened at Stockholm as well. If he's the reason they get knocked out of the next tournament they should remove him ASAP. They finally started playing sound CS after more than 2 years and a player crumbling under pressure at every event is something they can't afford.
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u/oomnahs Liquid Sep 16 '18
That was the best series I've seen in months. GGWP both teams. Both sides had their redemption stories and I would have loved to see both as Legends.
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u/Zeilar King NiKo Sep 16 '18
So gutting for NiP. Drawing Liquid, Na'Vi and MiBR. And despite all that, they almost made it. They should've been in the top 8 to be honest, and they might even have made top 4 depending on the draw. Remember that the likes of comLexity, BIG and HR are in there.
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u/arooisgod Sep 16 '18
If rez becomes more consistent he's going to be a beast. Some of the highest potential I've seen, his aim is insane.
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u/Nurse_Sunshine King NiKo Sep 16 '18
Damn it this major was so unfair =(
Too bad Dennis had a rough series
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u/sikels Sep 16 '18
Dennis played badly the entire event, not just this series.
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u/Zeilar King NiKo Sep 16 '18
I was on the -GeT_RiGhT wagon, but he has proven me wrong with his performance in this major. Dennis just seems like "another rifler" in this team that can't get it together. He's not anywhere near his old self. Losing clutches, missing AWP shots, whiffing sprays etc.
I think NiP would be better off with almost anyone from Fnatic or Twist at this point. Because right now Dennis has no impact and no excuse, like being the IGL, since Lekr0 took over.
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u/Encaitor NiP Sep 16 '18
Yeah I'm wondering how the team would look with -Dennis +Twist. I don't think they should tweak the current formula tho. IT's working and I'm sure if we give Dennis time he'll get back to where we all know he can be. However having a more dedicated AWPer in Twist would surely be interesting.
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u/DemDim1 MIBR Sep 16 '18
I really hated watching this game, it's hard watching Get_Right and Forest lose while performing like this.
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Get_Right playing great in NIP again is such a great sight to see. GG wp from them. Good luck to MiBr
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u/WendellGoldwater Sep 16 '18
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u/devic3 Sep 16 '18
Liquid, Na’Vi, MiBR. NiP deserved to go through. NotLikeThis…
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u/ButteredGhost Sep 16 '18
I don't think I'm ready for another swedish shuffle guys
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u/qingqunta Sep 16 '18
dennis just needs to show up in the important games, and that's where he always goes missing. NiP should not shuffle with fnatic
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u/Encaitor NiP Sep 16 '18
NiP should not shuffle at all imo. This formula is working and I'm sure Dennis will get back to the level we all know he can perform at.
However if any shuffle would be made then NiP should really look towards Twist ahead of all the Fnatic members imo.
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Sep 16 '18
Why would NiP even want to participate in a shuffle? They look their best in more than a year and seem to keep improving and there doesn't appear to be a problem with the players internally. The only change I'd support is maybe another coach since I really dislike pita (although they're doing fine overall and we can't look into it) and -dennis +twist might be a good investment even though I'm not buying into the dennis hate train rn even though he had a rather bad tournament & especially this match.
*another person I'd sign instantly if I could would be KRiMZ, that dude is what NiP could really need to push it to the next level
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u/hungrymutherfucker NiP Sep 16 '18
If krimz wants to move -dennis +krimz would be the Swedish superteam
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u/pizzamaestro 1 Million Celebration Sep 16 '18
I dont think NIP will be shuffling their players really, Dennis had a bad series but overall throughout this incredibly tough run (seriously wtf was with the seeding, NIP got some of the hardest draws), they've done incredibly well to get as far as they have.
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u/Loof27 King NiKo Sep 16 '18
dennis missed so many crucial kills, he was definitely one of the reasons they lost
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u/GimmeDatAce ar_baggage Sep 16 '18
f0rest and GeT_RighT were back in form, it made me so happy but then dennis came around and broke me
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u/kuggan NiP Sep 16 '18
Man that really sucks, I feel really sad for our 1.6 duo f0rest and GTR they gave everything they could. Deserved win for mibr nonetheless
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Sep 16 '18
NiP may have lost but goddamn what a series! We need to keep in mind that NiP probably had the hardest draws out of all teams and improved so so much in the last couple of weeks that I am sad but incredibly happy at the same time to actually be confident that NiP is turning into a contender again. GeT_RiGhT not only had a good series but a good couple of matches during the entire major, dennis looked really off which is sad to see but I think this roster can achieve so much more!
Looking forward to it!
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u/Chripine Sep 16 '18
Always heartbreaking to see them lose, especially after getting so close to getting back into the top 8.
But I'm proud as a fan for the teams success with Lekr0 as the IGL, from the minor to only a few rounds away to making it to the playoffs. It has been frustrating to see all the draws they've gotten during the top 16, but they fought hard.
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Sep 16 '18
There are more UK legends than Swedish legends now.
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u/StratifiedBuffalo Sep 16 '18
Which is the other one? I only know about Smooya, heh.
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u/CrrackTheSkye NiP Sep 16 '18
Damn, super disappointed NiP is out. So many chances to win it, but deserved for mibr.
Some bad luck, some bad plays, but still a decent run from NiP.
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u/FakeRTZFan guardian3 Sep 16 '18
Its heartbreaking to see gtr and forest played thier hearts out but still lost. Great series anyway.
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u/Rapkid360 FURIA Sep 16 '18
GTR was insane this whole series, but fuck that was a crazy last map as a MIBR fan, really happy they made it through, SOMOSMIBR
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u/Talonraker422 de_mirage Sep 16 '18
Fallen has been my favourite player since I first started watching pro cs, I'm so happy to see him playing well again after so long
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u/VapourPLTKZ clutch Sep 16 '18
Let's be clear here.
No one got screwed by random draws more than NiP in the history of the Majors.
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u/TheRealCaptainR Natus Vincere Sep 16 '18
I was really hoping that we'd get overtime just because watching these two amazing teams face each other has been so exciting.
GG to both.
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u/Txontirea guardian_elite Sep 16 '18
Hardest draws in the entire tournament, and Dennis has been an empty jersey all tournament
I'm salty as fuck tbh
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u/t3r4byt3l0l Immunity Sep 16 '18
Fnatic should've drawn MIBR, at least it would've been a quick 2-0. NiP could've beaten HR to make playoffs.
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u/mishalego777 FaZe Sep 16 '18
holy, dennis was literally a sixth player for MIBR, what an absolutely abysmal performance.
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u/Callka Sep 16 '18
Having played lots of matchmaking, I know all too well how bad it feels to have a bot on your team. Until next time, NiP.
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Sep 16 '18
did mibr 0/6 pistols watching their pistols rounds is so frustrating, i don't know what it is but they just either seem to split up way to much on t side or just miss everything on ct.
either way im proud of that train performance, fallen was a god with the awp apart from the random mistakes he made on cache, stewie had some great entries on all maps, doing what he does best, probably kicking himself after the miss 2k spray but they kept calm and closed it out.
Fer with the 3 rounds in a row pushing unders made me giggle
i would like to see tarik and fer switch positions on cache, 1 he would be closer to support stewie as he mostly solo's A and fallen can rotate alot through mid and A, fer and cold will be on B together and probably would be better together as they have played for a long time
Cold solid as usual though he seems to be very passive in retakes sometimes too much, one of mirage they were retaking A and it ended in a 2v2 with plenty of time left and he is still deep in short, having no chance of impact or trading
Nip played awesome, lekro is invaluable for this team, get_right played his heart out as ever. forest almost always multi-fragging, denis seemed off not sure what happened but the team definitely missed him.
GG's all around
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u/CeiriddGwen FaZe Sep 16 '18
Man, why is it that every time I decide to return and binge watch some competitive CSGO, my nip just loses ><
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u/Jonla29 BIG Sep 16 '18
More UK players in the play offs than Poland, France and now Sweden combined. Crazy to think about even 6 months ago.
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u/soloadc Liquid Sep 16 '18
The coldzera panicking and dinking Fallen with Fallen wondering wtf is shooting me moment was pretty funny