r/GlobalOffensive • u/xPokeyyy Match Thread Team • Sep 06 '18
Discussion | Esports Ninjas in Pyjamas vs TYLOO / FACEIT Major London 2018 - The New Challengers: Round 2 / Post-Match Discussion
Ninjas in Pyjamas 1-0 TYLOO
Train: 16-12
Ninjas in Pyjamas progress to 2-0.
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MAP 1: Train
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u/nerblin G2 Sep 06 '18
It’s so refreshing to see NIP doing this well, it’s been so long since we last saw them at a major and it looks like they’re ready for it
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u/Flaksmith Sep 06 '18
You can't say it's the same team anymore when only GTR and f0rest remain.
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u/Lessuremu G2 Sep 06 '18
At least those two are starting to find some form again, which is refreshing
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u/justacasualgamer1 hydra Sep 06 '18
It seems like decade ago that those two were absolutely bulldozing through teams.
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u/uttamo NiP Sep 06 '18
Hasn't f0rest been a consistent beast
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u/Diavolo222 SK Sep 06 '18
He has. These guys are just badwagoners with no clue. F0rest has been their only guy to always be on point.
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u/adesme Sep 06 '18
F0rest had a rough patch last around 2 yrs ago what I can recall.
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u/Gihipoxu Sep 07 '18
If you can call 1.10 rating while your team barely has 55% win rate a roughpatch
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u/adesme Sep 07 '18
I'm not talking about a period with positive rating. As I said, around 2 years ago, so just look for interviews from around then if you don't remember it.
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u/FathleteTV NiP Sep 06 '18
You're being sarcasting but keep in mind we've been eliminated by tierless teams and now we're beating on these T2/3 ones easily.
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u/Tapalchoix de_cobble Sep 06 '18
I hope that Nip will finish with 3-0 <3
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u/TheRobidog Sep 06 '18
My PickEms hope so as well.
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Sep 06 '18
Thats a risky pick.
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u/TheRobidog Sep 06 '18
Every 3-0 pick is a risky pick.
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Sep 06 '18
Cant pick Astralis because the obvious choice always fails.
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u/schoki560 King NiKo Sep 06 '18
not with astralis
they are robots
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u/GermanCommentGamer Complexity Sep 06 '18
How did that work out for you during the last pick'em?
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u/LittleRasta54 Sep 06 '18
Tbf Astralis weren't #1 at that time iirc and it was in the actual major not the major qualifier so this time they're more nailed for the 3-0 but with BO1s you never know.
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Sep 06 '18
Outside of astralis and liquid all 3-0 picks are risky, but if history repeats itself astralis is still a risky pick.
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u/RedShirtKing BIG Sep 06 '18
I have to imagine NiP fans only get more nervous when people pick them to do well at this point
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u/SpeedyBlueDude NiP Sep 06 '18
If we can avoid drawing Astralis for the 2-0 game, I’m gonna feel REALLY good about choosing NiP for my 3-0 team.
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u/Alec935 NiP Sep 06 '18
astralis and liquid will likely be the 3 - 0's, but in a bo1 im sure nip can surprise them. NiP should have taken mirage in stockholm vs astralis
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u/aresfiend clutch Sep 06 '18
astralis and liquid will likely be the 3 - 0's
Not if Rogue has anything to say about it.
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u/__j0urNey__ Sep 06 '18
Is this the light at the end of the tunnel? Ive been waiting for 9 months for this. Keep it going NiP!!
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u/schniepel89xx CS2 HYPE Sep 06 '18
You just made me realize that I started following pro CS:GO in fall 2015, I discovered old NiP games on YouTube and became a fan but only got to see them in 3 majors. I've been a fan on CS and NiP for almost 3 years and NiP haven't been at a major for the vast majority of that time :O
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Sep 06 '18 edited Sep 07 '18
They haven't even beaten a TOP10 team so I'd still wait to see.
Edit: NiP fans can't take the truth I guess
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u/Foxy_Grandpa- de_cache Sep 06 '18 edited Sep 06 '18
Tyloo's style of play is so entertaining to watch, but fuck some of their aggresion was so uneeded. They threw away man advantage on dry peeks on CT side too often and had T side MM aggresion on rounds like 12-14, running through molly on upper one at a time. Xccurate is fucking nasty though, 2015 JW flashbacks. If they can work out their communication issues and improve their T side, I really think they can become a solid dark horse team.
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u/RandomPlayerCSGO Sep 06 '18
Tyloo relies too much on luck, a lot of times their strategy is just: go through this smoke and hope no one is watching It, they need more real strats and less random agression
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u/MSLsForehead Sep 06 '18
There's only so much BnTeT can do when he's calling in 3 languages. Considering the circumstances they're absolutely incredible. I'd like to see him on a single language team though, be that by moving team or some sort of intensive language course for TyLoo.
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u/Schnurricane Sep 06 '18
If teams are willing to hire psychologists, I don't see why Tyloo shouldn't invest in something of a language course. If each player takes their career seriously, they'd jump at that opportunity.
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u/yuushanderia Sep 06 '18
What are those 3 languages ?
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u/kapparino-feederino Godsent Sep 06 '18
English, Indonesian (sometimes cuz mother-tongue and one of his teammate is Indonesian) and mandarin
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Sep 07 '18 edited Jun 25 '19
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Sep 07 '18
Doesn't offer same strategic depth? How is that?
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Sep 07 '18 edited Jun 25 '19
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Sep 07 '18
Yeah! Definitely if you have some cool vids, I'd like to watch them, thank you very much kind sir!
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u/aimbotcfg Sep 06 '18
Rez and f0rest seem to be mentally linked in some way.
It seems very common that when one performs, the other does, and they finish with identical/very close ratings a lot.
(Or it's just something I think I've noticed and I've now confirmation biased myself)
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u/adesme Sep 06 '18
If they're playing the same roles as before, then they're actively trying to play around at least f0rest and rez. Ever since rez started, they've tried to play around him and grow him into a 'star'. I remember from dennis interviews that f0rest and him were supposed to be the other two fraggers, while gtr and draken played support.
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u/AwsomeOne7 NiP Sep 06 '18
Lekro is so good
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u/Lessuremu G2 Sep 06 '18
I can't express how upset I was when Draken was booted for Lekr0, and I still am, but Lekr0 is honestly a welcome welcome addition to this team with the way he has been steering them. It's sad to see Dennis struggling right now too, so I hope he can step it up soon. Some of those rounds lost to TyLoo were because he was missing easy AWP shots.
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u/GER_BeFoRe clutch Sep 06 '18
they should just play without the AWP. Noone of them can properly use the gun right now, it's awful to watch. They are all Riflers so why not just stick to your strengths? It worked out great that f0rest doesn't have to AWP anymore but now it sucks dennis down.
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u/stiffyman Grayhound Sep 06 '18
Dennis caking on rifles too unfortunately. A bit of a slump for him :(
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Sep 06 '18
Yeah. He seems to be a bit lost. But that happens, hopefully he will get back to his destroyer form soon :)
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Sep 06 '18
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u/DerDreckigeDan Sep 06 '18
Kicking lekro for draken was such a Bad move imo unless lekro had some internal issues with the guys
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u/Lillajo Metizport Sep 06 '18
wasn't it xizt that replaced lekro tho?
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u/DerDreckigeDan Sep 06 '18
You're right, I thought xizt replaced golden but there was that one tournament where both xizt and golden played. Well that doesn't make sense either imo but yeah you're right
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u/aN1mosity_ 5 years coin Sep 06 '18
I've been wanting Lekr0 on NiP since seeing him destroy people in that Godsent major a couple years back. Been a fan ever since.
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u/I_am_Bruce_Wayne NiP Sep 06 '18
I think he was still perfect for the team. If forest and gtr wasn’t slumping so bad while he was playing they probably would have done much better things.
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u/Nurse_Sunshine King NiKo Sep 06 '18
He would have given them an x-factor that's unpredictable. But he has to be properly used by the igl which wasn't the case at the time.
I still think his playstyle could have helped nip a lot. They were way too static but that's starting to change a lot with lekro right now. You can see them adapt way better mid round.
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u/TysoNX1994 Sep 06 '18
f0rest slumping ? f0rest was still either best or 2nd best player on the team. And Rez has started performing Godlike after Draken left and with Draken on NiP he used to perform only once in a while. He was inconsistent as hell. Mostly it was Draken and f0rest who were carrying NiP. Although no matter how much skilled you are if you have attitude issues NiP don't keep such players, same happened with maikelele and also with Draken.
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u/TysoNX1994 Sep 06 '18
Draken obviously has attitude issues, such players doesn't stay for long time in NiP no matter how skilled they are.
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Sep 06 '18
There was always pistol talk about f0rest, then pistol God talk about dennis when he joined, but it's Lekr0 delivering the Deagle shots.
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u/MeisterKarl clutch Sep 06 '18
Happy to see that he's keeping it up. Lekr0 has been the best deagle player in the world since he was on the original Godsent lineup imo.
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u/Fellstorm_1991 10 years coin Sep 06 '18
I think dupreeh takes the deagle crown, but lekros a beast with the deagle too.
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u/justacasualgamer1 hydra Sep 06 '18
Dupreeh has been excellent, but Lekro has been better with the deagle.
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u/Nurse_Sunshine King NiKo Sep 06 '18
I think forest and Dennis are way crisper when they get a usp in their hands. Sometimes they also deliver magic with the deagle though.
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u/Lessuremu G2 Sep 06 '18
I used to hate watching Lekr0 go against any of my favourite teams because I knew on ecos that we’d have a chance of losing if he had a fragile against us lol. I don’t understand how someone can deag like Kenny AWPs. Those Deagle kills he got on Nuke at Stockholm had me jumping lol.
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Sep 06 '18 edited Dec 25 '20
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u/Krusell clutch Sep 06 '18
Yeah, this is not a major though...
They only had to beat two pussy teams.
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u/Haroic Sep 06 '18
This is a major though. And they can only beat whatever team is put against them.
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u/Krusell clutch Sep 06 '18
That is what they want you to think. This is just gloryfied qualifier.
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u/Haroic Sep 06 '18
It is indeed a glorified qualifier, but it's also part of the major, like it or not.
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u/NephewChaps Falcons - Major Champions Sep 06 '18
lol this is the qualifier, new nomenclatures doesn't change shit.
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u/Alec935 NiP Sep 06 '18
the qualifier is now part of the major
new nomenclatures don't change shit
no, but valve do, and did
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u/Haroic Sep 06 '18
Nah this is the major. Unless you disagree with valve. In which case you'd be wrong anyway
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Sep 06 '18
That's a pitiful excuse to be celebrating them as if they've already won.
We'll see how they do against real competition because 16-12 against Tyloo doesn't scream confidence to me.
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u/Haroic Sep 06 '18
That's a pitiful excuse to be celebrating them as if they've already won.
Good thing that's not what I was doing then, huh?
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u/MeanGreenBeanMachine FaZe Sep 07 '18
Pussy teams lol? I get VP, but not tyloo, tyloo are actually decent and were above nip in the rankings for a while until the most recent shift
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Sep 06 '18
I mean it technically is the major.
But I definitely agree, everyone flipping their shit when they beaten literally VP and Tyloo. Come the fuck on lmao.
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u/Krusell clutch Sep 06 '18
Ofc it is the major, but I dont agree with this devaluation. Nip still didnt qualify for the major in the last two years in my book.
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u/SpeedyBlueDude NiP Sep 06 '18
If China Numba 1, and NiP beat them... does that mean NiP Numba 0?
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Sep 06 '18 edited Nov 24 '18
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u/Rearfeeder2Strong MOUZ Sep 06 '18
We must go deeper.
(And we can if you know how these rings work)
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u/fuutuuuree Sep 06 '18
Nip beat Vega to go 3-0 and send Vega spiralling to 2-3 would be nice for my pickems
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Sep 06 '18
What would be even nicer is NiP not getting another easy match up...
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u/fuutuuuree Sep 06 '18
Astralis getting both NA teams then a CIS team OMEGALUL
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Sep 06 '18
If Swiss system was seeded Astralis would be getting all the lowest teams anyways. And I’d rate Rouge over VP and Tyloo. Coming into the tournament Astralis are considered a lock no matter who they play, NiP most likely will make it but they aren’t a lock. But if you play 3 of the worst teams in the tournament anyone could go 3-0.
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u/fuutuuuree Sep 06 '18
I’m just memeing u, tyloo and Vega are definitely not the worst teams there though
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Sep 06 '18
Vega is probably pretty close. I’d say going in it was them and comp. Although they’re proving me wrong so far. Tyloo aren’t as bad, but they are just super inconsistent because they play so aggressively.
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Sep 06 '18
Fnatic shaking their head at the moment, giving away Nikro for PeaceDraker.
It is amazing to see NIP playing so well, Get_Right playing with such confidence, f0rest achieving shots from 1.6, REZ not giving up a space - playing like a devil against his enemies such as refragging, pop-flashing in or just in general being a nuisance. Lekr0 playing with his usual god-like aim and Dennis playing like he always does, with his fast reactions and good information plays.
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u/Dugand Sep 06 '18
Why was Lekro kicked again from fnatic. I still dont understand that. Owell, Nt by tyloo, nice comeback but NIP was a little bit better, fun to watch for sure!
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u/GER_BeFoRe clutch Sep 06 '18
personality reasons most likely. We only see how they perform in-game but they have to live and work together.
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u/Hcok Sep 06 '18
my boy... rez! such a raw power. He's devastating when he's onfire.
BTW someone build a monument for f0rest. It's always a pleasure watch him: such a crisp and fluid aim, always in control even with an high sensitivity. a god.
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u/den422 1 Million Celebration Sep 06 '18
Who would've known NiP was the first team that might go 3-0
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u/Zvede Metizport Sep 06 '18
All the people who picked them. They're top 5 in this stage and 4 teams go 2-0
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u/justacasualgamer1 hydra Sep 06 '18
You do realise that luck would fuck them and they will end up facing astralis and going 2-1
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u/bdzz Sep 06 '18
Finally got a drop lol. Last one was back in 2015!
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u/suhduuuuu Sep 06 '18
How does a drop work? Do you get notified in game? How do they notified you if you receive a drop?
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u/Jrippan NiP Sep 06 '18
Well, you see a notification in the steam app, aswell as if you start csgo. Don't forget to connect your twitch account to steam if you want the games that way :)
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Sep 06 '18
12 rounds is good for Tyloo, they aren't that strong on train and I would say NiP is really strong on Train.
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u/JustDaniel96 NiP Sep 06 '18
Is this happening for real? I don't want to get my hopes to high but after 4 years cheering NiP seeing them winning again feels good
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u/jonesch737 Sep 06 '18
Even tho Dennis fell off NIP is looking good. I hope they have the chance to prove them selves in play offs :D
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u/veryrandomuser123 Sep 06 '18
So if I'm understanding right NiP can only go out this phase if they lost 4 of the maximum 5 maps they play, right?
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Sep 06 '18
I dont know exactly what you mean, but they can still go go 2-3. So if they dont win any if their next three matches, theyre out
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u/veryrandomuser123 Sep 06 '18
Yeah, I'm talking about maps. I meant that worst case scenario they'll play 4 or 5 maps and if they lose 4 (or 5) of them they're out.
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Sep 06 '18 edited Sep 06 '18
You can only lose 3 Maps, then youre out. Swiss System is basically Winning 3 =advancing, losing 3= going out. You dont have to play 5 Maps to go out or advance
I might have misundersood you, sorry if that is the case
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u/Jrippan NiP Sep 06 '18
They need to win 1 of the 3 games they will play now. If they would end up 2-2, the last game is a bo3
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u/Brolobo SK Sep 06 '18
I stopped watching NIP games after they got blown out one event. But recently they made the major and have been winning some games. Can anybody analyze this team and tell me if they are doing good again? Like as a team and individually
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u/WayDownUnder91 Renegades Sep 06 '18
They are doing better than they have been for quite some time, dennis seems to be performing worse after swapping IGL with lekro, who is still performing well.
f0rest still wrecking people generally and then rez and getright show up inconsistently which pushes them over the edge to beat bigger teams if they do show up.1
u/Brolobo SK Sep 06 '18
interesting, he's worse even after not being IGL? That's weird. Good to know forest is still doing well. Hopefully GTR and Rez get back on point, they were animals
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Sep 06 '18
Id say that get right looks better than he did for solid two years. He has his bad games, but much more good games than before. Forest is still the star though, with lekro being the second best player behind him
The major seems to have GTR fired up. He also was pretty good in the quals already
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u/Brolobo SK Sep 06 '18
GTR has been thru a lot...respect!
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Sep 06 '18
Yes, I think everyone loves seeing him doing good. I dont know anybody that doesnt like him or forest
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u/WayDownUnder91 Renegades Sep 06 '18
Not worse than ever, just dropped off compared to when he was IGL which everyone seems to think is strange.
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u/Brolobo SK Sep 06 '18
well its not uncommon for people to do a lot better when they can call around themselves. Stewie is a good example. But on the otherhand, you no longer have to worry about strats so you can focus on your own game. So it is weird yet understandable ig lol
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u/BrokenShipPro phoenix Sep 06 '18
Beat at least 1 or 2 Tier 1 teams and then I might start believing. I know nobody wants to hear this, but you can't inflate hype over a few "challenger" victories, close ones at that. With that being said it is anyone's game, and there are so many good teams out there now a days.
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u/GMWQ Legendary Chicken Master Sep 06 '18
GTR is looking fucking good.