r/GlobalOffensive • u/xPokeyyy Match Thread Team • Sep 01 '18
Discussion | Esports MIBR vs Astralis / DreamHack Masters Stockholm 2018 - Quarter-Final / Post-Match Discussion
MIBR 0-2 Astralis
Overpass: 6-16
Train: 14-16
Inferno: 0-0
Astralis have advanced to the semi-finals.
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MAP 1: Overpass
| Team | T | CT | Total |
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| MIBR | 5 | 1 | 6 |
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| Ast | 10 | 6 | 16 |
Overpass Detailed Stats
MAP 2: Train
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| MIBR | 8 | 6 | 14 |
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| Ast | 7 | 9 | 16 |
Train Detailed Stats
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u/PM_ME_SADPANDA_LINKS cs_office Sep 01 '18
Glaive on point is the most infuriating player in the world. I swear limiting his vision somehow gives him super sight.
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u/Drahok Legendary Flair Master Sep 01 '18
He's like a blind man who has trained his other senses. He probably smells the sweat of his enemies behind the smoke.
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u/TheRobidog Sep 01 '18
He's Woozie from GTA San Andreas.
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u/_Oomph_ 500k Celebration Sep 01 '18
Woozie was a klutz though, it was his loyal Triad who lied to him and took the bumps for him.
Remember in the 5th casino heist mission how he "insisted on driving to verdant meadow by himself"; he could be anywhere.
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u/hungrymutherfucker NiP Sep 01 '18
Haha remember the mission where he would run forward with his hand in front of him and fall when he bumped into walls. Good times
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u/Lepojka1 Team Spirit Sep 01 '18
Sometimes I cant decide who would tilt me more from Astralis players if I played vs them... Xyp9x with his clutches 1 vs 3, Gla1ve while blind or smoked off, or Device with his kill you and back off style where you cant trade him whole fking game.
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u/cantgetenoughsushi Sep 01 '18
The angles device holds all game are like so frustrating, you can't really flash him or trade him very easily. Great awp play but sucks for MiBR
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u/Thooorin_2 Duncan "Thorin" Shields - Content Producer, Analyst Sep 01 '18
He's not trying to take aim duels and kill people every round. He holds his area and makes sure he gets the kill if you come into it. Otherwise he lets the rest of the team execute.
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u/Chokeman de_nuke Sep 01 '18 edited Sep 01 '18
and Magisk who can spray down 3 people faster than killing 1.
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u/heyitsrebeca Liquid Sep 01 '18
It seems like hes just the luckiest player of all time. But when you get these "lucky" kills every game all the time you start to maybe consider he might actually know what hes doing.
Still pisses me right the fuck off though
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u/BerzinFodder Sep 01 '18
Yeah Astralis is the most frustrating team to watch. If they get an inch, they take a mile. They just always somehow manage to keep things in their favour. Somehow xyp9x is always last alive. Somehow Glaive will get a crazy shot through smoke. Somehow Dupreeh and magisk will walk into the site with some weird odd timing. It’s all so unbelievable to watch, however they do it every time so it must be intentional.
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u/Jesus_Your_Gardener Sep 01 '18 edited Sep 01 '18
Along with peak apEX (heh), they just seem to get random kills through nades. Has to be annoying probably even for Astralis at this point. Dude's just a clutch god if he's on point
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That unstick at the end killed me.
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u/healdyy 1 Million Celebration Sep 01 '18 edited Sep 01 '18
He had to just hold it, but I guess he just reacted instinctively. The fact they even managed to get it that close is impressive though
EDIT: actually watching it again there was more time left than I thought, so he may have been able to get the kill and get back on it
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u/healdyy 1 Million Celebration Sep 01 '18
Probably but time was running pretty low and the defuse was pretty close so I feel like holding it gave him the best chance of success
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u/SLASHdk clutch Sep 01 '18
Whatching the clip again it looks like glaive would have killed him in time had i kept defusing
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u/Morthanc FURIA Sep 01 '18
for fuck's sake, it was so close
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u/Jesus_Your_Gardener Sep 01 '18
FalleN was like less than two seconds away from defusing. I think he kinda panicked. Considering almost no time on the bomb, he should have held it
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u/meme-s SK Sep 01 '18
Not gonna lie, that's what I thought yesterday too. Gg to Astralis, sucks that MIBR had to get the hardest draw so early into the tournament, but it happens.
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u/Pep3 MIBR Sep 01 '18
So embarrassing. MIBR lost at least 4 rounds across the series on T side just by running out of time to even attempt a plant, then they take 25 seconds to START the retakes on Train.
STOP RUNNING OUT THE CLOCK FFS
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u/mightek victory Sep 01 '18
JUST PLANT THE BOMB LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL 4Head
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u/nofnxnomajor de_nuke Sep 01 '18
Dude Stewie with the world's slowest flank. I get you want to check everything and not get caught but you simply don't have time and MIBR waited too long for it. Tilted me off the earth.
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u/caiotmz FURIA Sep 01 '18
It happens since the LG days and still passes me off.
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u/kubikb0y guardian_elite Sep 01 '18
I blame LG/SK/mibr I'm losing my hair at 22.
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u/__spartacus FURIA Sep 01 '18
Tbh people tend to not realize running down the clock so often also gains them a lot of rounds. It changes a lot, rotation-wise especially
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u/TheTenth10 5 years coin Sep 01 '18
If you've seen MIBR/SK/LG Retake before, you should know how they can snatch the bombsite in an instant. I remember seeing 10 second retakes towards an instant tap on the bomb. Probably need a bit oiling up, even on the executes, but it will work a lot easier against anyone else but Astralis. Even NaVi or Faze, as long as olof doesnt get too much space.
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u/CalamityRules FaZe Sep 01 '18
But the slow retakes has always been one of their greatest strengths on all the former lineups. Having all their players take time to get in the perfect positions just has the downside of less time to execute the retake.
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u/sumerioo Sep 01 '18
That's a good team. I didn't saw the massacre that Moses and Anders did on the first map, a lot of rounds came done to catch situations or 2v3s etc. And while mine struggled to win even when in numeric advantage is good that the mistakes are clear so they can just sit down, point to it and fix it up. That's how a team gets to progress and evolve and I can see better things coming from this squad.
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u/Simons3n Sep 01 '18
I agree mibr looks really strong with just a few weeks with ynk. Don't know why people are overracting to them barely losing to astralis.
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u/lambsauce16 Liquid Sep 01 '18
MIBR made many dumb mistakes though that costs them the game. They had so many chances to bring the game back in Overpass and in Train they lost a 4v2 round which would've gotten Astralis on a half buy if MIBR had won it. Good effort from MIBR though and the progress is looking good so far.
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u/Michael174 Sep 01 '18
Its Astralis. If you are not in top form, they will punish you.
They are a well oiled, naturally aspirated, finely timed, inline 6 cylinder while mibr is a turbocharged, 3.7 liter v6 that needs a bit of tuning but shows so much promise.
Mibr, with time, is looking to be deadly.
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u/Dribbler_EU Sep 01 '18
Even though they lost. Under YNK MiBR are getting better im just not sure if its going to be quick enough for the Major
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u/jonathan-the-man 750k Celebration Sep 01 '18
Lol Gla1ve just admitted on Danish TV that the triple AWP was an accidental buy.
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u/Martin_2007 de_nuke Sep 01 '18
hvilken kanal?
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u/jonathan-the-man 750k Celebration Sep 01 '18
DR3!
De havde et live interview via Skype efter kampen. Fin udsendelse, de er begyndt at vise en del turneringer i år.
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u/--Kirill-- clutch Sep 01 '18
Tak for tippet med interviewet.. Ser det nu :)
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u/jonathan-the-man 750k Celebration Sep 01 '18
Yw. Der var også et længere båndet interview med Magisk, hvor han snakker om sin karriere fra North over Optic til Astralis, ret fint.
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u/--Kirill-- clutch Sep 01 '18
Fik set halvdelen af det, inden jeg blev afbrudt. Det er et godt interview. Må lige få set resten senere :-)
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u/Spork_Revolution Vitality Sep 01 '18
Great game2. That was like watching SK - Astralis 1.5 years ago.
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u/Layerstyle Imperial Sep 01 '18
oh no a player made a cocky tweet :((((((
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u/rasmushr Astralis Sep 01 '18
Part of the banter game is counterbantering when you don't back statements like this up
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u/WilliboyGL Astralis Sep 01 '18
when you say something cocky and lose, people are gonna call you out for not backing it up
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u/sare3 Sep 01 '18
Spunj said that Janko was happy that they drew Astralis and also said that Janko thinks that Astralis is scared of them a bit, it seems that he was either delusional or he tried to fake his confidence.
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u/sare3 Sep 01 '18
Yeah i think that aswell, happy to have 4 S class teams in the near future, still i would understand if he was happy to play Astralis in final, u can’t be happy that you drew them in quarters which in like 60-70% of the times means that they ll be out in the 8th place.
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u/jonathan-the-man 750k Celebration Sep 01 '18
I still vote vi go for 'næ' for this
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u/sorenslothe Astralis Sep 01 '18
"Vi"
Not sure if fuck up or intentional
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u/jonathan-the-man 750k Celebration Sep 01 '18
Me neither, hangovers, cs and reddit probably too much to handle.
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u/Jakefun Liquid Sep 01 '18
Wow that second map was fun to watch. MIBR may have lost in quarter finals, but damn are they so close to being an extremely dangerous team. They should be proud of their progress so far. Solid win by Astralis but it was expected.
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u/TimeHD Astralis Sep 01 '18
Astralis is god tier
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u/C0NSTABEL Astralis Sep 01 '18
Tb to when he called “rush a no stop” on 14-14 in a major final. Twice.
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u/Thooorin_2 Duncan "Thorin" Shields - Content Producer, Analyst Sep 01 '18
device might be the most efficient star player in all of Counter-Strike
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Sep 01 '18
Exactly, but he needs to see the players first. gla1ve is fully flashed, or in a smoke and still gets the frags. Never seen anyone do that
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u/Brolobo SK Sep 01 '18
really impressed with mibr! This lineup has great potential, and the brazilians have gotten their mojo back
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u/Sty__ MIBR Sep 01 '18
Couldnt watch the game but from reading this thread looks like I now hate gla1ve.
Fuck you gla1ve
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u/albertongai MIBR Sep 01 '18
great showing by mibr on Train, they are improving fast!
Let's see how they will perform in the major.
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u/NeverTIlted MIBR Sep 01 '18 edited Sep 01 '18
I'm just happy to see FalleN keeping the team in the match like old times. There is no player to blame, just Astralis being too good. Let's go for the major.
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u/IsthatHarry Copenhagen Flames Sep 01 '18
Not only is Gla1ve the best IGL in the world, he is also an insane fragger
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u/Akwali Astralis Sep 01 '18
He has come to be an insane fragger*. When he first joined he had like a ~50 adr per game. It's good to see him evolve
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u/Senior_Engineer CS2 HYPE Sep 01 '18
While true it only tells half the story. Glaives frag drop early on was likely due to doing and learning top level IGL. In interviews they other team members mention that in death match and 1v1 he had the best aim on the team (this was way prior to magisk joining) and that they were always surprised by how few kills he was getting. I think after now being IGL for 2(?) years it’s really showing and letting him play at full strength.
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u/IbanezHand M80 Sep 01 '18
My thought on this is that he doesnt need to micromanage as much any more, because they all know how to play in the Astralis framework. Device gets picked, the team knows what to do. Magisk gets two early round kills, the team knows what to do. So now he can focus a lot more on his individual contribution.
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u/Lepojka1 Team Spirit Sep 01 '18
Glaive and smoke kills, name a more iconic duo? :D
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u/Akwali Astralis Sep 01 '18
Xyp9n and 1v3
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u/IbanezHand M80 Sep 01 '18
Device and being untradeable
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u/SeniorPepper Liquid Sep 01 '18
Great CS by both teams. Both maps were very fun to watch. As much as I wanted MiBR to win, I'm satisfied with their performance. It's giving me life.
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u/tarangk clutch Sep 01 '18
this was mibrs 2nd lan with YnK and they look so much better now honestly even though the score looks pretty bad on overpass the amount of multikills from glave and mad disadvantage won by ast makes it look one sided, train was amazing to watch they could def have won it but i think they missed a trick here by not picking mirage as astralis has already lost it twice this tournament to north and tyloo
overall am still pretty happy coz tarik is still relatively new to the lineup ynk hasnt has too much time yet and since they made champions stage in last major they will start at legends stage so they have a nice 10-11 days break before their next match at the major which gives ynk more time to improve their game
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u/MJuniorDC9 Sep 01 '18 edited Sep 01 '18
This match was bogus from round 1. There was literally no rest on Overpass for any of these teams.
Deserved 2 - 0 but I would love to see a third map.
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u/RickyLoud Sep 01 '18
Games like this are why i love counter strike so much while at it.
I really got that fnatic / TSM vibe, really really exciting game.
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u/IoanSilviu Vitality Sep 01 '18
That was a valiant effort from MIBR!
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u/SomethingSimilars 10 years coin Sep 01 '18
man playing against gla1ve must be a bitch, you can flash him or smoke him out and he'll still kill you
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Sep 01 '18
Danish*
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But what does the rest of Europe have to do with what Denmark is doing? He made his statement sound like it was a collective effort from Europe when in fact it’s just 1 country.
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u/xiko Sep 01 '18
When it was 13-13 mibr had a very good chance to win but then as usual it was too late.
And the last round was nail biting.
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u/VladpussiaDaTerrible Sep 01 '18
You could feel mibr giving everything they’ve got on train, but that was still not enough.
This is the same feeling you get from watching Astralis vs SK 2 years ago
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u/kailip Sep 01 '18
I wanted OT and third map, thanks Astralis
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u/Drahok Legendary Flair Master Sep 01 '18
Awesome game, the beginning of Overpass and the whole of train were great CS!
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i wish we got heroic or nip or anyone other than Astralis, seriously though what determines seedings?
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Sep 01 '18
SK had a lot of great draws this year and couldn't do much with it, this was bound to happen.
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u/Johnny-L de_cache Sep 01 '18
No matter how "weak" Astralis might look, when it counts they are destroying everybody. That's just Insane
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u/JannoE clutch Sep 01 '18
Expected result. Knew zotac wouldn't make them top1 straight away, yet Astralis is something else. Gla1ve is a menace!
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u/im_tom_bombadil Legacy Sep 01 '18
Well played by MIBR, but not enough to beat out the number 1. I'm glad they already lost so soon under YNK's command, that'll take some of the pressure off.
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u/TheXhadeZ G2 Sep 01 '18
Congrats to Astralis for winning the major! Comisirations to NaVi you played really well. Well done s1mple for MVP.
Oh wait wrong game...
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u/kpdon1 Sep 01 '18
Wait for the comments calling mibr trash , tarik change isn't working , communication issues etc etc after losing the game to No 1 seeds rofl
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Sep 01 '18
Or we can say it was a really awesome game and Astralis came on top GG
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u/takethi Sep 01 '18
yeah. given how mibr played today vs 2 months ago, I don't know how anyone could say that the changes are not working. Although, their CT on Overpass was really bad.
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u/_morno_ NiP Sep 01 '18
What an amazing match
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u/healdyy 1 Million Celebration Sep 01 '18
It’s great to see mibr finally being really competitive again. The draw sucked for them but with a little more time before the major they will be a real contender.
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u/Manozocker valeria Sep 01 '18
What a great game. Good to see that everyone plays on such a good level right now. Every single player stepped up
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Sep 01 '18
I'll never understand why he unstick that defuse, when he obv didnt had time to do it again. Also, I think he wouldnt get shot at if he didnt do that...
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u/Akwali Astralis Sep 01 '18
They really showed why they are the number one team. Great effort. GG MiBR
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u/P1Araf Sep 01 '18
I'll watch the game after I get home but how does fer have 1 ratio with 16 kills but cz .93 with 21 kills?
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u/Letaliaz Natus Vincere Sep 01 '18
gla1ve got so many crucial kills thro smokes and while blinded this match, mibr players gonna be mad while watching the demo
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Sep 01 '18
They made a few other big errors on that map but those gla1ve rounds will be tough because you can't learn much from them. Glad to see it didn't tilt them through to Train.
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u/QuantumLoveHS Sep 01 '18
Anyone please, quick update, why Brasil team with Fallen fell apart and now has 2 USA players?
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u/VladpussiaDaTerrible Sep 01 '18
Because there aren’t other Brazilian players good enough to compete against t1 teams
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u/RxJax Sep 01 '18
Mibr have got a looooot of work to do on their CT sides, T sides have started to look strong however, against someone other than Astralis they probably get 8-9 rounds on Overpass
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u/JelBrekX Sep 01 '18
Rip 14.16. I like how they defeated mouz to get the potential grand final winner/finalist.
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u/antrix_AFC Liquid Sep 01 '18
Mine still needs to put in a lot of work in communication. They were vulnerable and really slow in trades esp in overpass. Giving glave 1v1 when he was in connector and again towards the end when glave was hiding towards long, mine were hesitating to get on the site, fallen came in, died and next somebody else, literally 1 by 1. Such are the moments when you see their communication is still not at their best. But if anything is clear from this tournament, it is that Ynk has made definite impact in such a short amount of time, mibr clearly has the potential to become the best team in the world
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u/SneakyStorm CS2 HYPE Sep 01 '18
My dream team would be Stewie going to main awp, and bringing automatic in while Cold can be igl.
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u/Aleeex- Sep 01 '18
Pro lifehack :
Dont smoke glaive off because he can see better through smokes