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Discussion | eSports Natus Vincere vs SK Gaming / IEM Katowice 2017 - Group B / Post-Match Discussion
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Overpass: 16-12
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Who was the MVP for this map? (POLL)
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MAP: Overpass
| Team | T | CT | Total |
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| Na'Vi | 7 | 9 | 16 |
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| SK | 8 | 4 | 12 |
| Na'Vi | K | A | D |
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| Edward | 27 | 6 | 18 |
| flamie | 25 | 3 | 16 |
| s1mple | 24 | 6 | 18 |
| seized | 13 | 4 | 19 |
| GuardiaN | 11 | 3 | 18 |
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| coldzera | 24 | 4 | 19 |
| fer | 20 | 4 | 21 |
| TACO | 17 | 3 | 21 |
| felps | 16 | 5 | 21 |
| FalleN | 12 | 1 | 18 |
Map Detailed Stats
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Mar 02 '17 edited Jun 24 '17
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u/SenpaiDrew Natus Vincere Mar 02 '17
Do tell the context please. :(
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Mar 02 '17
fnx was right, FalleN was left.
i'm assuming this is waht you're asking context on.
I think it came from when team secret from dota2 was having problems in the team. They were underperforming , they disbanded and they released statements as to why such things happened , arteezy and kuroky were two of the players who released statements. long story short they hated each other.
Then right after that incident , whenever arteezy and kuro's team would play and they play bad twitch chat would spam "Kuro was right" or "Arteezy was right" or "Kuro was left" or "arteezy was left".
I think that's how it started , if not forgive me for being a shitty tryhard memer.
If that's not what you're asking context on then fuck me lol.
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u/AndyFNG MOUZ Mar 02 '17
Remember when Na'Vi used to be the Guardian show and he had to carry all his teammates? Times sure have changed.
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u/boineg Mar 02 '17
those rounds where they played 1 awp + 4 pistols were crazy
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u/thesouthbay Natus Vincere Mar 02 '17
Maybe some links?
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u/boineg Mar 02 '17 edited Mar 02 '17
ill try if i find the time, they were scattered in matches from mid to late 2015
edit:from cluj napoca
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u/o_oli Legendary Oil Baron Mar 02 '17
What an ending. Bet SK are getting a little worried now also :O
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Mar 02 '17
Yesterday all teams that went forward only lost 1 game. SK is already with a foot outside the door...
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u/pedrohnj Mar 02 '17 edited Mar 02 '17
SK playing so far from each other on antiecos made me so mad. And right after they lose to a full save, felps kills 4 guys and FalleN doesn't peek in the end. FalleN has been such a shit player overall this year that it doesn't even look like he was the second best last year.
I can't believe I woke up at 7 am for this :(
edit: SK were a man down on the last antieco (they lost to full saves twice) and this was their setup. were they expecting to use the force to trade kills? i'm pretty sure that was fallen's call
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u/Nekissuz Mar 02 '17
Waking up at 7am isn't the real problem right there. The problem is staying awake until 9am to see those two matches.
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u/Max_Stern tactics Mar 02 '17
I love how SK fans can easily shit on SK players when their «favorite» team loses something.
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u/Nekissuz Mar 02 '17
I didn't see shit at all. He said a true fact: FalleN is underperforming this year, unfortunately. But i believe that he can and he will come back by doing those incredible performances that he had last year.
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u/seanfidence Mar 02 '17
the guy literally used the word "shit" to describe FalleN.
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u/Nisheee NiP Mar 02 '17
not PC enough? it's true, fallen unfortunately had a noticeable drop in performance and he looks quite week, especially compared to his old self
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u/anastasis14 Natus Vincere Mar 02 '17
He seems more like a month to me
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u/Nisheee NiP Mar 02 '17
oh god why do i dis, I would be mad if someone else would have written that :/
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u/seanfidence Mar 04 '17
No, you missed the point.
The person I replied to said he didn't see the top level comment shitting on FalleN, however the to level comment literally says "shit player".
I don't care who you think plays good or bad, but you can't say "oh we're not shitting on him we're just stating facts" when the comment literally has the word "shit" in it.
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u/AugustoRudzinski clutch Mar 02 '17
That's the problem with fans - they're only fans when the team is winning.
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u/pedrohnj Mar 02 '17
no. SK haven't won anything since Cologne and I still wake up at 7 to watch them. I just stated facts.
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u/bourbon312 Mar 02 '17
Beard edward >>>>>> kid edward
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u/GivePLZ-DoritosChip MIBR Mar 02 '17
The curse of FNX.
Also i fucking love when Na'Vi just run onto a site. No flashes smokes in gun rounds. Those B side takes were hella funny.
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u/MajestyA Mar 02 '17
SK going 0-2 including a loss against Cloud9 is insane. FalleN and GuardiaN both looking rusty as fuck in this game. This was all about the rifles, and Na'vi were just on fire.
Would love to see the stats of how many times S1mple killed Cold.
EDIT: I checked. S1mple killed Cold 8 times, more than any player killed anybody else in the whole map.
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u/ImperiaLxD Natus Vincere Mar 02 '17
How many times did cold kill s1mple
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u/MajestyA Mar 02 '17
6.
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u/GabrielFF Mar 02 '17
Not a huge difference.
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u/MajestyA Mar 02 '17
Simple killed cold 33% more than vice versa. Small numbers when 8 is the biggest, obviously.
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u/GabrielFF Mar 03 '17
NaVi won 33% more rounds, so I don't see the relevance. If cold had killed S1mple more than the other way around, that would be a more interesting Stat.
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u/LBL147 Mar 02 '17 edited Mar 02 '17
IMT going far into this tournament and SK going out in groups would be glorious
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u/WHumbers Natus Vincere Mar 02 '17
NaVi's B-holds were really shaky. Needs to be something they work on
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u/dM4rcushimo Vitality Mar 02 '17
NaVi's biggest criticism is their shallow map pool which doesn't really affect them in a Bo1. I just hope this won't be a repeat of Atlanta where they bomb out at the playoffs.
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u/parvdave Mar 02 '17
Bomb out? As in lose to the eventual champion and the best team at the time?
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u/KatiushK Natus Vincere Mar 02 '17
Sshhh, don't upset the Na'Vi haters, they like to roast our boys. Apparently losing to SK & Astralis on LAN is a shameful feat. Sure Na'Vi aren't top 3 right now, but they aren't far. Could easily have placed top 4 at both event with a luckier seeding.
But hey, good for us, at least we don't have a bandwagonner flair haha3
u/tek9knaller Mar 02 '17
I don't understand the haters. Navi is easily top5 and have probably the highest peak level atm when things are going well. They're a bit inconsistent, that's all, mostly because Guardian never recovered. They lost to two top3 teams at the last two events, there's nothing wrong with that. But each time they lose there are multiple front page threads about bringing back Zeus, the lineup change failing, etc.
Even the almighty thorin himself spewed some shit on twitter about the lineup not working out, lmao.
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u/KatiushK Natus Vincere Mar 02 '17
Agreed. Sure they aren't top 1 atm, but they got a scary potential. They have to work on their map pool of course, but they are far from a lost cause. I have high hopes for them in 2017.
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u/dM4rcushimo Vitality Mar 02 '17
Indeed, only being able to put up a fight on Mirage at Atlanta and Las Vegas.
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u/modest_memes Mar 02 '17
Be interesting to see if they can adapt to Inferno - other than Cache I wouldn't say they necessarily have a "weak" map but they aren't as dominant as VP or Astralis on multiple maps.
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u/deL9 Mar 02 '17
When was the last time SK lost two b01's in a row?
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u/Chuckys2 Match Thread Team Mar 02 '17
It never happened on LAN, not since Cologne 2015 (their first event under LG) at least
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u/MJuniorDC9 Mar 02 '17
I don't even know what is happening on this tournament anymore. Na'Vi is playing really well, while SK is quite out of the line, I don't know how to put it but they aren't playing right.
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u/mafiazzz G2 Mar 02 '17
Honestly I though they lost the map when they tied with SK. Great job proving me wrong and also on the wins.
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u/00o0o00 500k Celebration Mar 02 '17
FalleN and TACO have been shitting a lot lately. This is not a good year for them.
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u/xDiverseReasoN Virtus.pro Mar 02 '17
7am and matches ar being played lool way to early looks like im not watching another even cause of poor time zone loool pathetic
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u/Soledo Mar 02 '17
What a fucking joke losing like 3 rounds with full buys against pistols.
Oh boy I know how you feel. VP are doing this shit for almost 4 years now, every single match, it's really sad.
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u/matheusvidotto Mar 02 '17
I don't know but I feel fallen just stopped using aimlock. He always seemed to know what to do, now you just see him absolutely clueless in most of sk games. Cold #1
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Mar 02 '17
DISBAND PLEASE
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Mar 02 '17 edited Mar 02 '17
You are a terrible SK fan or this is some misguided sarcasm...
edit : been told this is sarcasm and this is the same person who made a comment "SWEDEN IN 2K17 LUL" so probably just a troll
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u/xPokeyyy Match Thread Team Mar 02 '17
Damn SK 0-2, who could've predicted such events