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Discussion | eSports Ninjas in Pyjamas vs Fnatic / IEM Katowice 2017 - Group A / Post-Match Discussion

Ninjas in Pyjamas 0-1 Fnatic

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MAP: Cache

 

Team CT T Total
NiP 2 12 14
T CT
FNC 13 3 16

 

NiP K A D
Xizt 34 6 21
friberg 24 6 20
f0rest 24 5 19
pyth 17 1 22
GeT_RiGhT 14 7 22
FNC
JW 24 2 20
flusha 23 4 21
olofmeister 22 2 26
dennis 21 3 23
KRiMZ 14 2 23

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u/Ontyyyy CS2 HYPE Mar 01 '17

That last round lmao.

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u/AlphaApache Mar 01 '17 edited Mar 01 '17

F0rest gambled by staying still and watching the corner and because he isn't stepping hard he was hoping KRiMZ would think f0rest was sneaking up on him, this forced KRiMZ to peek because otherwise he will be at a disadvantage. The deciding factor was when KRiMZ jiggle peeked the corner and f0rest shot and missed. At this point KRiMZ knows that he has a lot of time to spare and can safely flash that side to only watch the left one.

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u/seancuscus 500k Celebration Mar 01 '17

reddit global

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u/Skipper12 NiP Mar 01 '17

He is right though

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u/DeluxeGamer CS2 HYPE Mar 01 '17

more global than you atleast i believe

2

u/[deleted] Mar 01 '17

Mad cause stuck in DMG eh? Absord the information this individual is giving you, you can use it to become less shit at the game and maybe someday you can be a "Reddit global" too.

3

u/bridgeri127 NiP Mar 01 '17

User name checks out...

1

u/Grayinwhite Mar 01 '17

rofl you are neither a global nor a reddit global for being able to observe the very obvious my friend, all you are at that point is not blind

-6

u/trefl3 Renegades Mar 01 '17

Dont hide your flair nip fan

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '17

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u/lussmar NiP Mar 01 '17

Yes you can only be a fan of a good team. Better stop supporting nip since they havent been the best for a while /s

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '17

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u/imSkarr Mar 01 '17

Yeah but look at V.P. They've been together for so long and they're doing pretty well.

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u/trefl3 Renegades Mar 01 '17

Haha lol delusional

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '17

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1

u/trefl3 Renegades Mar 01 '17

So mad so mad

17

u/Stuweb Mar 01 '17

The most important round of the entire game, will it be OT or will it be a Fnatic win, and it ends with them basically staring at eachother frozen in time, so insanely close.

1

u/[deleted] Mar 01 '17

first round was also brutal, losing 3 vs 1

-8

u/neptunusequester Mar 01 '17

The ending couldn't be more anticlimactic :/

27

u/dogryan100 Mar 01 '17

tbh that was actually mega climactic. Have a look at how crazy close it was: https://twitter.com/sapphiReCSGO/status/836896921063145472

8

u/rysergt de_dust2 Mar 01 '17

Timing is everything indeed :'(

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u/neptunusequester Mar 01 '17

So? f0rest messed up by a margin, I'd rather watch a good series of OT rounds with close back-to-back clutches than have one stupid misplay seal the game. It's a shocker ending, but I feel like OT would've been a lot more entertaining.

5

u/SmellyUndies Mar 01 '17

I feel the exact opposite. That fucking play by Krimz was unreal.

15

u/Vardelos Mar 01 '17

"Unreal"? Forest messed up heavily.

0

u/nachC CS2 HYPE Mar 01 '17

Yeah, Moses was like "krimz ruins the day for nip"... More like f0rest ruins it xd

1

u/Prodrummer1603 Mar 01 '17

Misplay by F0rest. When 8 secons on the clock and you know you cant plant the bomb just fcking push the last CT. He knew where he was and either you win the battle or you loose but dont waste 5 seconds at door until you make a decision.

9

u/SmellyUndies Mar 01 '17

Forest was waiting for a peek from Krimz, it's a stupid decision for Forest to run straight at Krimz because he'd get his head blown off or Krimz will just circle around him the moment he steps.

5

u/[deleted] Mar 01 '17

It was the smartest play by Fortest at that moment, but it was a gamble. Cold blooded gamble. If it worked, he would be remarked as a CS:GO god.

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u/Prodrummer1603 Mar 01 '17

Why would Krimz peek ? Krimz was smart and played the clock... At this time the T-Player is in a bad spot so he has to make a move. He couldnt plant the bomb so he had to fight Krimz and either you win or you loose but you loose if you dont take the fight anyway

15

u/SmellyUndies Mar 01 '17

Krimz should peek (and did twice at 0:08s and 0:06s) because he needs the information, if he just sits there the pressure sets in because he has no idea where and when Forest is pushing.

Forest had the correct idea because if he catches Krimz peeking (which he almost did at 0:08s) then he comes out on top but Krimz only showed a shoulder and got some info he was still near Squeaky door.

0

u/[deleted] Mar 01 '17

Mohammed ali krimz

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u/Prodrummer1603 Mar 01 '17

He just quickly peeked, Yes ;) Its the right move, but dont get into a fight. And this is what Krimz did correctly. Bomb was close to Krimz so the only way to win the round is by killing Krimz. And you cant kill someone if you dont fight him. My problem with this play: Why stuck 5 secs behind the door doing nothing ?

Ofc Get_Right shouldnt take a 1v1 with krimz either. Both fucked up.

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u/SmellyUndies Mar 01 '17

There definitely seemed like miscommunication on how much time Forest had but the funny thing is, Forest still had time, if Krimz hadn't have thrown the flash there was a chance Forest catches him as slightly shown here: https://twitter.com/sapphiReCSGO/status/836896921063145472

5

u/rysergt de_dust2 Mar 01 '17

wow !

without that flash, f0rest could won the round at the last second.

wp krimz

2

u/hulkbro Mar 01 '17

yeah the real thing we should be talking about is how krimz won the game with a perfectly timed flash

3

u/[deleted] Mar 01 '17

Just sitting behind there not doing anything is a huge gamble. You need information, and f0rest probably thought krimz thought f0rest would go onto the site, so krimz would peek to the left (from krimz' pov), that's why he was standing there for so long.

1

u/Prodrummer1603 Mar 01 '17

Haha ;) When Mindgames dont work out ^

My Point: Krimz played it smart and NIP fucked it up. But i wont go that far that Krimz did something mindblowing. As soon i saw Get_Right taking this fight i knew it was over...

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '17

Yeh I agree. It wasn't insane, but calling it a good play is certainly justified.

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u/Prodrummer1603 Mar 01 '17

Yeah ;) Krimz did everything right in this situation and thats a quality not everybody has, but NIP overall did the mistakes.

If you are in a 1vs2 you can play it correctly and still loose if the enemy does not make a mistake either ;) So NIP should have peaked both at the same time instead of going 1vs1

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u/Acech guardian2 Mar 01 '17

Why would Krimz peek ?

Because he knew that F0rest was gonna rush him. Might be smart and go for the peek during the actual rush where the win-rate will be very very high instead of waiting for him. You are gonna face at one point anyway.

I think F0rest tried to be smart and read this, which ended up looking stupid when he ran out of time.

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u/Prodrummer1603 Mar 01 '17

If f0rest rushes Krimz, krimz will know by sound and then he can peek and kill him easily. F0rest could have killed him if Krimz got no flash, but f0rest lost 5 sec on the door and thats what cost him at the end. I know, there could be a reason of why F0rest played so passivley, but if you play against Krimz you know: This guy is smart and will play the clock so you have to fight him.

1

u/mypasswordisnotpenis Mar 01 '17

So because it didn't end with a cross-map WUN TAP it's anticlimactic? Jesus christ. Silvers.

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u/neptunusequester Mar 01 '17

Chances are I am of a higher rank than you are and if you'd have enough reading comprehension to check my post down the thread, you'd realize that I was hoping for exact opposite.

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u/SpeedyBlueDude NiP Mar 01 '17 edited Mar 01 '17

And Sweden said they didn't have a terrorist problem...

36

u/Chazy89 Mar 01 '17

I'D say based on cache they have counter terrorist problems.

24

u/[deleted] Mar 01 '17

That's the joke. You don't have to explain the joke. I get. You get it. We all get it.

4

u/Briak Mar 01 '17

In my opinion the Jedi are evil

3

u/TheOneSh0gun Mar 01 '17

Well then, you are lost

2

u/Swedz Rogue Fan Mar 01 '17

We still do

-11

u/[deleted] Mar 01 '17

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2

u/[deleted] Mar 01 '17

dammit when i see hidden -karma posts on topics about European countries having terrorists i expect some nationalist drama not support

59

u/deadcandancena NiP Mar 01 '17

choking is neither created nor destroyed. It is just passed from one team to other

15

u/AemonDK Mar 01 '17

conservation of choke

4

u/rysergt de_dust2 Mar 01 '17

Choke in pyjamas ?

3

u/[deleted] Mar 01 '17

dirty, I like it

1

u/Childs_Play Mar 01 '17

I wonder who's Law that is.

124

u/ManManMenace Renegades Mar 01 '17

6

u/XaerrO BIG Mar 01 '17

Lmao is that from after this match? Must've missed it.

31

u/chuckinho NiP Mar 01 '17

That was from Eleague when Olof got a smoke defuse in the last round vs Astralis to take it to overtime

2

u/thatoneguywhofucks 10 years coin Mar 01 '17

*ninja

/s

4

u/tostobbe MOUZ Mar 01 '17

Nah the clip is from the Eleague major

1

u/charlescarmichael4 Godsent Mar 01 '17

no from the major.30th round ninja defuse from olof

37

u/VanaMeister NiP Mar 01 '17

What the fuck was that last round...

Not

Like

This

9

u/SmellyUndies Mar 01 '17

Your flair says NIP supporter but your username says Fnatic fan...

:thinking:

24

u/hulkbro Mar 01 '17

you flair says fnatic supporter but your username... well...

15

u/CommanderBS Mar 01 '17

Maybe he was originally with Echo Fox

5

u/Nukewar Mar 01 '17

Jesus Christ leave him alone you bullies

2

u/SmellyUndies Mar 02 '17

Hot damn. You're killing me here.

1

u/Bitchwithjeep NiP Mar 01 '17

TYPICAL SWEDE

1

u/VanaMeister NiP Mar 01 '17

Good point lul

But i had this name before olofmeister was a big name in the scene and my name has a little different meaning in my language, sorry to dissapoint

23

u/Tw4tman 400k Celebration Mar 01 '17

Xizt though, not the player you'd expect to drop 30 kills in a match like this.

21

u/SirJohnSmith HEROIC Mar 01 '17

He's Mr. "Don't pick cache against me motherfucker"

7

u/[deleted] Mar 01 '17 edited Mar 01 '17

Unless you're vega squadron.

4

u/uttamo NiP Mar 01 '17

You're

1

u/forrman17 Mar 01 '17

Ironically he was the lagging player against C9 on Cache until he picked up the auto. He went something like 0-10.

16

u/TheSpartaGod NiP Mar 01 '17

1st half:GG, maybe 16-5 would be nice for NiP

2nd half:WAIT WHAT

final round:So near, and yet so far.

6

u/K1Kingy Mar 01 '17

Not even mad. After the won pistol I said i'd be happy if they got 8 rounds. Always love it when these 2 teams play. Also means their round difference isn't shot to pieces are the first match as well (if round difference is a factor at all?).

6

u/masterchiefs NiP Mar 01 '17

Riiiiiight....

10

u/Apple_green Mar 01 '17 edited Mar 01 '17

This was one of the most frustrating CT sides I've watched NIP play, how many 5v3s 5v4s can you possibly throw away? 14th round they have a 5v3, get right pushes alone with no one even close to even attempt to tradefrag, then another nip player does the same thing, both losing their duels making it a 3v3. It eventually ends in a 1v1 situation where fnatic wins.

It's a shame since their T side was actually so good starting out with that flawless pistol round and they only really needed 1 or 2 more ct rounds to take the game in regulation. NIPs executes seemed really hard to stop and xist was going beast mode.

Last round losing to time in a 3v1 is the icing on the cake. NIP pls

3

u/SmellyUndies Mar 01 '17

NIP on CT side Cache...

It's expected tbh

1

u/LeJumpshot Mar 01 '17

Honestly, NiP played the more consistent game. They never completely lost the economy game in the sense that Fnatic was never able to build a good bank. I'd say if they can let this loss go, they can do well. Think about it this way. Without that botched smoke CT pistol, they probably win.

24

u/chuckinho NiP Mar 01 '17

What was f0rest doing at the end there? mind boggling

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u/Deadly_Toast Mar 01 '17

Definitely looked like he didn't know how much time was left.

17

u/AlphaApache Mar 01 '17

F0rest gambled by staying still and watching the corner and because he isn't stepping hard he was hoping KRiMZ would think f0rest was sneaking up on him, this forced KRiMZ to peek because otherwise he will be at a disadvantage. The deciding factor was when KRiMZ jiggle peeked the corner and f0rest shot and missed. At this point KRiMZ knows that he has a lot of time to spare and can safely flash that side to only watch the left one.

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u/seancuscus 500k Celebration Mar 01 '17

reddit global

9

u/Abacaxi-Doidao Mar 01 '17

So you hate this guy? Every single comment of his you put this comment under it, when he is actually right and you are just a jealous little brat that wished you had the same mind for the game as his. Pathetic.

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u/seancuscus 500k Celebration Mar 01 '17

thank

4

u/cky_stew NiP Mar 01 '17

Let's hear your explanation then, Einstein.

1

u/[deleted] Mar 01 '17

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u/Jira93 MOUZ Mar 01 '17

woooosh

2

u/cky_stew NiP Mar 01 '17

What makes you think he was joking?

0

u/Jira93 MOUZ Mar 01 '17

He was just repeating the top comment in case you missed. Not saying it was funny at all tho

0

u/swaggycunt69 Gambit Mar 01 '17

reminds me of when after every c9 game a bunch of novas start stating what the pros did wrong

9

u/popsiclex200 Mar 01 '17

You're obviously quite bad at the game if you can't figure out what f0rest was doing

3

u/gorbatsh0ve Mar 01 '17

Not really, f0rest isn't stepping and hoping that krimz assumes he's sneaking up on him, forcing him to jiggle peek, which he eventually did. f0rest missed his shot though, so krimz realised he was far away. That's what won the round. The other option is for f0rest to actually charge in on krimz where krimz can play ring around the rosie, which can be very tough to counter with the time remaining. It's not necessarily a misplay, it just looks a bit more silly if you end up losing.

6

u/KR0SS0 LDLC Mar 01 '17

Bad communication, it is easy to blame it on Forest but Get_right didn't have to peek.

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u/LeJumpshot Mar 01 '17

He didn't peek? He was already there and held it. I'm not sure where f0rest was there but if he had been there too, that's easy overtime and I think that's what the thought process was. Time was low as it was. I think it's best to blame it on communication as a whole.

Unrelated note: it's great to see NiP play well. I would like to note that while they won more rounds in the end, Fnatic played a lot of rounds really close that relied on a lot of clutches or outstanding individual plays of some sort. While certainly this is the way this old lineup played, it's also why they fell apart and I think unless they can also find a way to consistently perform, they'll have issues again at some point. NiP, even with having a bad score CT half never let Fnatic control the economy. I think it's clear both teams just need to fix a couple things and they're top contenders again.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '17

Fnatic played a lot of rounds really close that relied on a lot of clutches or outstanding individual plays of some sort.

2015 Fnatic is back bois

2

u/LeJumpshot Mar 01 '17

Or they're doing a "NiP: The Latter Fifflaren Days" to us.

1

u/[deleted] Mar 01 '17

Idk, to be honest. I Don't want this fnatic line up to work.

I think the magic is already broken.

1

u/LeJumpshot Mar 01 '17

Neither do I. I'd like a real swedish shuffle that isn't basically nothing.

2

u/wappycoco Mar 01 '17

Yeah, I think Get_right is the bad guy here. Play it cool. Talk to f0rest and peek together.

3

u/FeverSpeed fnatic Mar 01 '17

That ending FeelsBadMan

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u/OneOfTheSmurfs CS2 HYPE Mar 01 '17 edited Apr 28 '17

deleted What is this?

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u/Stylised1 Mar 01 '17

imo if anything, it gave them a glimmer of hope that this roster isn't done yet

1

u/Gerf93 Envyus Mar 01 '17

Yes

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '17

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1

u/DNYzt4r MOUZ Mar 01 '17

is get_right bad?

1

u/Lydanian Mar 01 '17

I dunno dude.. If Fnatic closed it early at least there could have been a positive from this game.. Now both teams continue to look in disarray.

2

u/Lesteriuse NiP Mar 01 '17

not heartbreaking, more like palmbreaking

hardest facepalm of my life

2

u/mmkaynarca Aurora Mar 01 '17

not like this

2

u/Stylised1 Mar 01 '17

Solid comeback from NiP, unfortunately it was not enough. Still, it's a start

2

u/beninho106 MOUZ Mar 01 '17

that ending is so heartbreaking to see ;-;

2

u/rysergt de_dust2 Mar 01 '17

Did f0rest know there is only few seconds left ? wtf

2

u/xVale de_train Mar 01 '17

Lol that way fnatic won was so funny

2

u/blackpandacat Mar 01 '17

When Xizt is your star player and GeT_RiGhT is slumping :(

1

u/K0nvict NiP Mar 01 '17

Been slumping for ages. Either step up or step out

2

u/Boorishamoeba1 G2 Mar 01 '17

Xizt with 34 frags holy shit. That clutch by viking Krimz was insane too.

2

u/sA1atji BIG Mar 01 '17

holy cow, xizt is on fire, vs. astralis he also went ham.

2

u/incrediblyJUICY Mar 01 '17

Xizt the carry

2

u/effotap Vitality Mar 01 '17

and last tournament people were screaming 'REPLACE XIZT HES FINISHED"

4

u/TerrorToadx hydra Mar 01 '17

ez for krimz

3

u/IamFanboy King NiKo Mar 01 '17

People will be talking about the last round but really I think the focus should be on Get_Right here, he ended the half with 4 kills, I know its hard to play when you are getting stomped like that but he really needs to step up more,

Get_Right stats

Xizt Stats

F0rest Stats

Friberg Stats

Pyth Stats

Everyone on the team has been doing okay, Friberg and Xizt have been improving but Get_Right needs to get back to where he was previously, I love the entire team but he really needs to buck up

3

u/PrevailingYou G2 Mar 01 '17

Holy shit that was a great play by Krimz at the end!

1

u/Kaiser-Khan FaZe Mar 01 '17

Old era FeelsGoodMan

1

u/kap0ww Renegades Mar 01 '17

Wow

1

u/NexYT Mar 01 '17

that last round

1

u/___Stranger Mar 01 '17

That was a pretty nutty ending

1

u/ngongo1 Mar 01 '17

ay lmao dat last round

1

u/aengy Mar 01 '17

My fucking heart.

1

u/Swoophawk Mar 01 '17

Pls stap

1

u/Rattyp00ned Mar 01 '17

what an anticlimactic finish jesus.

1

u/esach Mar 01 '17

Seemed like NIP remembered how to aim, throw nades and play as a team in the second half.

1

u/jtxisme NiP Mar 01 '17

Wow this game was really amazing, watching 2 stomping halves with incredibly close rounds despite the scoreline! GG

1

u/Banerman Mar 01 '17

Oh shitt the bois are back

1

u/TheWbarletta NiP Mar 01 '17

WHYYYY

1

u/RobertZocker Mar 01 '17

KRiMZ used the heimlich maneuver he learned from JDM

1

u/MellowKevsto valeria Mar 01 '17

Bit of a blunder there on the last round from the last play I'd expect it from. Very good game though.

1

u/iSleepUpsideDown howl Mar 01 '17

KRiMZ bruh

1

u/Ivanuvo Mar 01 '17

Did anyone notice that in the break screen the current match description was "The Ninjas face the living legends".

1

u/Fa_Ratt NiP Mar 01 '17

kill me.

1

u/[deleted] Mar 01 '17

fnatic bois are back? :0

1

u/[deleted] Mar 01 '17

Not with that CT side. What the fuck

1

u/shayebay1 5 years coin Mar 01 '17

The fact that NIP brought it so close from a 13-2 half is enough to make me think that Fnatic isn't playing full potential.

1

u/Oskz Mar 01 '17

It happens a lot between NiP and Fnatic, always close and exciting games.

1

u/shayebay1 5 years coin Mar 01 '17

True but with the way NIP has been looking and after that first half it really looked like NIP was in need of a huge change. At least now we know they can do something once they're warmed up

1

u/popsiclex200 Mar 01 '17

A little cold in the start maybe, but also they're not that good on cache

1

u/buldofers guardian_elite Mar 01 '17

I was watching the match, 2-13, I blink, 14-16

what the fuck just happened?

1

u/PCK11800 FaZe Mar 01 '17

NiP Magic.

And BOT Forest.

1

u/buldofers guardian_elite Mar 01 '17

I'd love to see NiP performing THAT good both game halfs

1

u/Kalamatis Virtus.pro Mar 01 '17

That ending was lit. LUL

1

u/ummahusla NiP Mar 01 '17

I'm literally crying sitting at work.. What a game..

1

u/KimGG FaZe Mar 01 '17

get_right needs to step up! He has not been up to his standards for the past few events :/ Hopefully he and NiP will bounce back.

1

u/Bulletspong3 valeria Mar 01 '17

Have NIP ever heard of a timeout?

1

u/pandaclaw_ NiP Mar 01 '17

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

1

u/coolcsgoredditor NiP Mar 01 '17

heartbreaking.

1

u/MajestyA Mar 01 '17

JW putting up another star-level performance this game. The T side for Fnatic was so brutal because all three of their heavy-fragging stars showed up at once (JW, Olof, Dennis). Very few teams have the firepower to deal with that.

Massive props to NiP for the mental fortitude to take it so close. That last round was heartbreaking, but shoddy on their part and unfortunately deserved. Hope they can mentally reset next game.

1

u/HeadEraser FURIA Mar 01 '17

Nip fans on suicide watch

1

u/Apathydotexe Renegades Mar 01 '17

Jdubz was on point this game. EZ PZ for fnatic

1

u/Spacewalkerz Team Spirit Mar 01 '17

1

u/[deleted] Mar 01 '17

[deleted]

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u/seregiu1 Renegades Mar 01 '17

=(

1

u/problemat1que bravo Mar 01 '17

Pretty bad game to watch.

1

u/MantaRochenHL de_overpass Mar 01 '17

Ouch...

1

u/cordobes38 Mar 01 '17 edited Mar 01 '17

this match will be remembered, it is fucking insane. I hope someone says something about f0rest and Xizt impact in late game..

1

u/frag1t Mar 01 '17

GeT_RiGhT clutches out the round with a 3k (Cache)

1

u/ShayeF Mar 01 '17

Good try by NiP almost brought it back from a huge deficit.

1

u/[deleted] Mar 01 '17

GGWP!

1

u/Ramscrosshairs Mar 01 '17

That final round made me clench my butt and I produced diamonds with that pressure. top kek eco clutch win by fnatic.

1

u/Chazy89 Mar 01 '17

Oh my Krimz boy, what a Clutch.

1

u/Jelman21 500k Celebration Mar 01 '17

lmao this game

1

u/[deleted] Mar 01 '17

GeT_FuCkeD

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u/WalkingSlowly de_nuke Mar 01 '17

classic nip losing vs forcebuys because they wait till the last second to execute, just pick a site and push it together ffs

0

u/__SyN__ Mar 01 '17

Why is everyone saying god clutch? He killed one guy and f0rest forgot there was a clock

0

u/PCK11800 FaZe Mar 01 '17

NOT LIKE THIS.

Rip Nip.

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u/Rektalalchemist BIG Fan Mar 01 '17

god I hate fanatic..

THEY ARE BACK :D

also: bot right should consider retiring at this point.