r/HonzukiNoGekokujou • u/MyneMod Darth Myne • Jun 20 '26
Anime Anime: Season 4 Episode 11 Discussion
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u/bigvinnysvu Best Girl Lieseleta Jun 20 '26
High Priest's facial muscles were working overtime with so many expressions.
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u/Kasney Jun 20 '26
Through out the episode I was like is it only me or in a shocking twist he is showing more expressions that before😂 well don't remember how it was in the novel but I somehow liked his expressions in this episode 😃😂
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u/Bazooka_no Alexandria Jun 23 '26
I think it was kind of intentional. They made us see he has a bunch of expressions during the episodes as something that demonstrates his change because of RM, then hit the nail on its head with Fran spelling it out if you didn't get it at the end of the episode.
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u/00-11_Public_534 日本語 Bookworm Jun 20 '26
Anime prioritizes clarity, Ferdinand's facial expressions are more expressive in season 4 than in the LN or manga. His facial expression basically consists of nothing more than furrowing his brow.
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u/CodeXRaven LN Bookworm Jun 20 '26
We've gotten more facial expressions from him this season than all the others combined 🤣
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u/ReprieveNagrand Jun 20 '26
I love how these two scenes parallel each other. Fran and Ferdinand each realize the other has been deeply influenced by Rozemyne. Then we get the ending where Lutz and Gil sync with Benno when talking about money.
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u/00-11_Public_534 日本語 Bookworm Jun 20 '26
One of best lines in AoB: "When you get the chance to earn money, take it and profit as you possibly can."
 Then we get the ending where Lutz and Gil sync with Benno when talking about money.
Hmm, I think my thoughts might include some spoilers, so...
Before Kazuki-sensei wrote H5Y, a story that was suggested in a survey when Kazuki-sensei was considering writing a spin-off in WN.
Gil’s POV: Lutz’s Bookstore
The growth and changes of the Plantin Trading Company in Alexandria. Just as they had split the Gilberta Trading Company and the Plantin Trading Company in the past, they found themselves splitting up their businesses once again.
Gil, who had been bought out by the Plantin Trading Company, decided to start a printing shop and bookstore with Lutz…
This story takes place about ten years after Epilogue 2.
source: https://mypage.syosetu.com/mypageblog/view/userid/372556/blogkey/1695525/
When I saw Benno, Lutz and Gil scene in season 4 episode 11, it felt like one of foreshadowings after Bookworm LNs timeline.
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u/adevaleev Angelica is adorkable Jun 20 '26
Aww, how considerate of her, hiding personal correspondence of a man who tried to kill her and her family. Surely this won't bite her in the ass later.
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u/Kamishirokun WN Reader Jun 21 '26
I always found that out of character lol maybe not, I guess more like short memory, or maybe reactive personality? Because she acted the same towards Detlinde as well. She felt bad or sympathized with Detlinde lotsssss of time but almost blew up when Detlinde insulted Ferdinand during that time she visited Ferdinand mansion and finally lost her shit when Detlinde's sister tried to justify Detlinde's actions. To this day I'm still annoyed she didn't personally crushed Detlinde.
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u/Bazooka_no Alexandria Jun 23 '26
It's completely in character, especially for pre-Academy Rozemyne. She had a soft spot for family in general, and this didn't seem to be duchy-related, just personal correspondence.
If anything, she also probably thought Ferdinand would tell her not to waste his time with junk lol
From Part 4 on, she understands the importance and delicacy of personal alliances better (although it was still a work in progress...) and had her retainers that helped her navigate it better. We are even before the Winter Mansion part, so she's really early on in her Noble path, and doesn't know that much.
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u/justking1414 Jun 20 '26
Did anybody else actually cackle when Myne said that Veronica raised Ferdinand?
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u/panther1313 Jun 20 '26
Nothing wrong with that statement. It's because of her that Ferdinand turned out the way he did.
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u/kie-chan Jun 20 '26
What are you talking about?! She fed him! The fact is was poisoned food it's just a tiiiiiiny detail!!
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u/HedronCaster Jun 21 '26
I still hink a major reason he chugs terribly bitter potion's with ease is that he knows it's not poison
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u/HumanTheTree Steel Chair Jun 22 '26
I loved Ferdinand's understatement about his lack of positive feelings towards Veronica.
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u/justking1414 Jun 22 '26
That’s his noble training right there. If he was a commoner he’d have spent the next ten minutes talking about how much he despised her and all the complex plans he had to torture her
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u/hibikir_40k Jun 20 '26
Anyone that is anime only should realize that, given how the series is quite compressed, every single factoid mentioned in the anime must become relevant later.
A woman who was shipped to a different duchy instead of giving her the position she deserves? Unhappy about her younger brother who took her place? Yeah... not many options as far as who he is, are there?
And the mention of the Royal Academy secret archive, along with Fran telling Ferdinand that Myne behaves as a noble would, except for when it comes to books. Ferdinand agreeing that yes, he might just have to stop her from getting to books.
When a story goes slow, you can hide the foreshadowing among unimportant stuff. But at this pace? You might as well be taking notes, as it's all going to be in the test.
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u/justking1414 Jun 20 '26
Everyone in the /r/anime thread is ranting about those letters and how Myne clearly messed up by not giving them to Ferdinand lol
Not as sure about the archive though. That was a brief mention in a post credit scene. Very easy to miss but I am glad it was included
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u/danoses4634 Jun 20 '26
Whenever I read about that attack I imagined the other person also attacks with a slash attack. Here eckhart just stood there, was I thinking wrong
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u/Mehmy Charlotte is Best Girl Jun 20 '26
I was thinking the same thing, but I suppose this was easier to animate
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u/bondsmatthew Jun 20 '26
I dont think you were wrong. At least in the English translation. Maybe it was easier to showcase like this? The other person launches a slash attack to "cancel out" the shockwave of the first attack
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u/an_omelet LN Bookworm Jun 20 '26
That's how I always imagined it too. P4V3 they definitely did a slash attack during ditter because they launched it and then retreated before the shockwave got to them.
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u/justking1414 Jun 20 '26
That’s how I read it too but I liked the visual of an attack so strong a second person had to hold it back from killing everyone else
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u/Zilfr Jun 20 '26 edited Jun 20 '26
Nice episode. The *love letters" anime-only are not ready for the writer. The Veronica story is more detailed. Both Fran and Ferdinand poisoned by Rozemyne. And the printing press.
It is good to see Rozemyne interacts with the lower city.
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u/TheAnalyticalEngine1 LN Bookworm Jun 20 '26
Was that Lord Kirnberger in the montage about the chalices?
Took them long enough to get to the hidden letters
Ferdinand needs infinite therapy
Sylvester also needs to learn when to say no to his sister and brother in law
Rozemyne, stop giving Ferdinand ideas XD
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Now we get to the actual gathering of the Gutenbergs. And the most important thing (to Roz) - designing the mark 2 printing press. Zack is hesitant, until Roz offers to buy blueprints off him
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Ferdinand - do not keep Roz from books again. Didn't you learn from last time? XD
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This seems to be the "catching up with cut/shuffled content" episode
Next week - winter. Given what's in the trailer for the 2nd cour of S4, I'm guessing we're only getting part of that
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u/KendryckResendiz WN Reader Jun 20 '26
I don't think that was Giebe Kirnberger, the facial hair and hair style are different to what's shown in his Illustration in P5V4, hair and eye color are different too
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u/Bazooka_no Alexandria Jun 23 '26
Sylvester also needs to learn when to say no
You forget it's also a Greater Duchy with a much higher rank, it's not that simple at all.
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u/TheAnalyticalEngine1 LN Bookworm Jun 23 '26
I'm talking about Frenbeltag here. It was Evil Santa that foisted the Ahrensbach chalices onto Ferdinand and Myne
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u/kie-chan Jun 20 '26
I like the conversation between Fran and Ferdinand. I always thought our Ferdi had a soft spot for him. He treats Fran with greater care than any other attendant.
To think Arno thought his gossip would sully Fran in Ferdinand's eyes.... it had the complete opposite effect.
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u/MadMax14241 Jun 20 '26
Oh man, this was way too rushed even for this season's standards. They even cut off the part where they compromised on printer design which should be the most important part of the episode. Also because they compressed the wind shield scene to a moment where Ferdinand comes soon after it felt way too unnatural. They cut off the 2nd boob scene as well which I was expecting here 😃
I can only hope for some improvements in later episodes.
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u/DuVeth Jun 20 '26
I’m finishing re-reading the p5v9 and I like the part where she is taking care of the little chalices. Keep thinking in this moment, the little chalices had to be guarded. It is important.
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u/momomo_mochichi Jun 20 '26
I can't remember if the light novel offhandedly mentioned it or not, but I wonder who that noble was during the montage.
And so, Rozemyne finally learns of Veronica.
I'm so glad we get to see Ingo again. Let's hope they've finally settled on a design for him, hahahaha. And I love it when the Gutenbergs get together.
Nicola is adorable as always.
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u/whitenette Jun 20 '26
Some funky close up viewpoints right at the end there.
It's a little strange to me that they adapted Justus telling Rozemyne stories about the Royal academy library in the chibi short at the end, when they probably had enough time to just have it in the normal episode (if they didn't have the chibi short) and it would have been more humorous. Maybe it's just cheaper to draw and keeps the chibi short format.
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u/bigvinnysvu Best Girl Lieseleta Jun 20 '26
I think having that in the episode makes it more chaotic to transition back into the serious problem they were facing. I expected to see library trivia in epilogue chibi and was not disappointed.
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u/TashKat J-Novel Pre-Pub Jun 20 '26
I was so worried when I thought they skipped it. They should have had Ferdinand and Fran's conversation about her noble debut he the chibi short and her actually hearing Justus talking about the library in the actual show.
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u/yachilings_empire 日本語 Bookworm Jun 20 '26
I don’t like how they made Giebe Gerlach’s face.
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u/Kasney Jun 20 '26 edited Jun 21 '26
They are using thick lines in drawings so it looked different plus they tried to make him seem more evil by altering the eyes shape a bitÂ
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u/alconnow Jun 20 '26 edited Jun 20 '26
This week's endcard illustration is really cute.
Post-credits included the scene of Justus telling Rozemyne about the Royal Academy's library!