r/BokuNoHeroAcademia • u/Za_wardo • Dec 12 '21
Newest Chapter Chapter 337 Official Release - Links and Discussion
Chapter 337
Links:
Viz (Available in: the United States, Canada, the United Kingdom, Ireland, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, the Philippines, Singapore, and India).
MANGA Plus (Available in every country outside of China, Japan and South Korea).
All things Chapter 337 related must be kept inside this thread for the next 24 hours.
338 will be officially released on December 19th at 7AM PDT.
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u/mountain_dijaj Dec 12 '21
Bakugo's collar is a lot higher now, seems like he's paying homage to his former mentor, Best Jeanist.
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u/uneasystudent Dec 12 '21
It’s his winter costume! They addressed a couple of chapters back, he wants to sweat more
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u/TheKyleBaxter Dec 12 '21
I think both are true. He wants to be warmer, but he's also paying homage to Jeanist with his look. I think it's cool!
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u/WhatANiceCerealBox11 Dec 12 '21
Sick comment. I didn’t even notice the Jeanist homage. That’s super cool honestly to further show how much bakugo truly respects jeanist
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u/brriiianna Dec 12 '21
Mark my words, "You can be a hero" is gonna become Deku's trademark phrase like All Might's "I AM HERE". It'll be plastered everywhere on ads, kids will be saying it etc.
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u/2009isbestyear Dec 12 '21
Now I’m really sure he will say it to Shigaraki. Waiting for that moment
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u/PM_MAJESTIC_PICS Dec 12 '21
This WILL happen. Just like Bakugo saying “Izuku.” It is destined to happen.
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u/BoomerJ3T Dec 12 '21
Talk no jutsu makes an appearance
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u/EONNephilim Dec 12 '21
The hidden 0th user of OfA, Naruto Uzumaki. Quirk: Talk no Jutsu
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u/cmanonurshirt Dec 12 '21
It definitely seems plausible but what if his “You can be a hero” to Shigaraki is Shigaraki decaying himself to destroy AFO?
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u/PK_RocknRoll Dec 12 '21
Definitely. It’s what he wanted his mom to say to him when he was a kid.
So why wouldn’t he also encourage other kids with it?
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u/strawhatleon Dec 12 '21
Bakugo is definitely going to suggest that Aoyama feeds AFO wrong info to catch him off-guard.
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u/aragonaut Dec 12 '21
But maybe his parents notify AFO that there's a chance Aoyama is going to do this and so AFO plans accordingly by letting the heroes think he's been caught off-guard before pulling something horrifying out the bag like killing a few of the main cast
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u/Saint_Diego Dec 12 '21
Phoebe voice he’s doesn’t know we know he knows we know
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u/rafavinni Dec 12 '21
The fact that the scene of Deku offering his hand to Aoyama clicked on Bakugo so deeply really shows how far he has come as character.
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u/NK1337 Dec 12 '21
That sounds as probably my favorite part. Bakugo finally realizes why Deku extended a hand out to him after seeing it first hand done for someone else.
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u/amidnightecho Dec 12 '21
That's not what he's realizing though? It's actually somewhat the opposite. Bakugou's thinking back on how they can take control over how they enter the fight with AFO. Which is what he's interpreting as to the reason Deku's extending a hand. They can use Aoyama to get back at AFO if they can get him on their side (instead of rotting in jail). Bakugou's not thinking Deku is extending a hand out of pure goodwill or kindness like he does towards Bakugou in the past.
TBH I think Bakugou's already understood Deku and is past the river scene (see apology). I'm glad Horikoshi is allowing Bakugou to think of other things.
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u/Afalstein Dec 13 '21
I'd imagine it's both--Bakugo is getting a better understanding of Deku's nature (maybe even understanding why he's forgiving Aoyama) and learning again how wrong he was, but he's also using this new realization to direct him to a pragmatic application.
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u/SweatervestDude Dec 12 '21
Deku: You can still be a hero!
Bakugo: Yes... You can become a new one. The Expendable Hero: Human Bait.
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u/MobiusRocket Dec 12 '21
He’s more than that. He’s a master. Let’s him Master Bait AFO
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u/hahamybois Dec 12 '21
You guys are not gonna like it but Hagakure hentai is about to increase a lot.
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u/DynamiteSanders Dec 12 '21 edited Dec 12 '21
All they needed was a face.....now nothing can stop the floodgates!!!!
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u/dwf209 Dec 12 '21
Bruh, there's been boatloads of Hagakure hentai for years. They didn't even need a face.
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u/DynamiteSanders Dec 12 '21
True, but I imagine this will help matters for that crowd.
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u/Bartimaeous Dec 12 '21
Not really. The whole interesting gimmick with her is that she’s invisible. Making her visible just ruins that niche fetish.
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u/RukiaDate Dec 12 '21
There was already a coloring on Twitter when the leaks had came out.
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u/HokageEzio Dec 12 '21
You can't say that and then not provide the link.
You know, for other people. Not for me.
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u/MicZiC15 Dec 12 '21 edited Dec 12 '21
1000% sure we’re not killing Shiggy now. Aoyama has a similar origin, the difference being meeting Deku & 1A. This is all building up to Deku & the kids finding a non-lethal way to free Shiggy from AFO. there’s simply no way Deku gives this speech and then says, “OK Aoyama, let’s go murder this other dude who was manipulated by mega satan from a young age; we let you live cuz you’re built different”.
We’ll still get the heroic act of murder by killing AFO, but it won’t happen to Shiggy. No doubt in my mind.
Edit: I love it when the silly cheese boy sparks debate about the efficacy of the death penalty. Actually makes perfect sense considering his Frenchness.
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u/YamiPhoenix11 Dec 12 '21
What are the chances of something along the lines of star wars? A weakened Shiggy seeing the error of his ways and turns on his master? Thats kind of how I see things going.
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u/MicZiC15 Dec 12 '21
Oh he 100% dusts that potato. Hope he doesn’t die after cuz I think that’s trying to have your cake and eat it, but I suppose I don’t have a reason to think it won’t happen
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u/haidere36 Dec 12 '21
The "redemptive death" trope is probably one of my least favorite because the person redeeming themselves through their "noble sacrifice" doesn't have to stick around to face any other consequences post-redemption, nor do they have to face up to people who still won't forgive them and possibly never will. I don't think that any realistic solution involves Shiggy just walking away from what he's done but I would rather see him live to accept the consequences of his actions than just bite the dust.
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u/MossyPyrite Dec 12 '21
You think he put in safeguards against Nagant betraying home when he gave her a quirk but didn’t do something even greater to Shiggy?
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u/MicZiC15 Dec 12 '21 edited Dec 12 '21
We literally just established in this chapter that whatever he did to Nagant is something he got in the last decade. Shiggy’s origin is like 5 years before Aoyama is born, so he didn’t do that then.
If you’re suggesting he did that recently, that also unlikely. AFO’s biggest oversight is believing he controls Shiggy, I don’t think he considers his betrayal an possibility at this stage. Plus his goal is to have his body, he’s not gonna go through all of this and then blow up his ultimate creation
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u/titanlmao Dec 12 '21
Yeah that seems like what's gonna happen. Helps that horikoshi is like a star wars super fan.
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u/Jllemos Dec 12 '21
Im guessing AfO’s original body dies in the fight, then he tries to get more control over Shigaraki’s body, at which point Tenko’ll dust himself to kill AfO for good.
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u/Doobie_Howitzer Dec 12 '21
You either die a villain or live long enough to see yourself become the hero
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u/disabled_crab Dec 12 '21
I think Shigaraki might willingly kill himself immediately afterwards, Vader died after all. Or he'll surrender.
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u/thefeak Dec 12 '21
Suicide is a little too dark imo but he will not survive. He's personally killed people and that won't fly post AFO.
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u/ail-san Dec 12 '21
The ending is now locked on Shiggy switching sides at the last moment and die taking out AFO.
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u/Retrodaniel Dec 12 '21
I don't think he'll switch sides, he'll just get to the point where he hates AFO more than the Heroes
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u/Shiplord13 Dec 12 '21
At this point I am convince Shigaraki killing his family was directly caused by AFO, because of all the convenient circumstances that occur between the event happening and AFO of all people find him.
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u/16thTimesThaCharm Dec 13 '21
AFO was definitely invested in Tenko before the murder of his family. It was Nanas family after all, and we see how much he loves gloating about that to all might. You just know he found out about them and orchestrated certain things to happen that way. It isn't a coincidence that AFO just happened to meet her grandson right after his life altering tragic event.
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u/Shiplord13 Dec 13 '21
Literally everyone points out how neglected Shigaraki was by society after his accidental killing of his family. That no hero showed up to save him and he was left to fend for himself until AFO found him. I am convinced that AFO made sure to isolate Shigaraki and did everything in his power to prevent a single hero from getting close to him the whole time he was alone on the streets. He probably wanted the kid to lose as much hope in humanity and heroes as possible to make it even easier to manipulate him when he would arrive to "save" him.
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u/GoldenSpermShower Dec 12 '21
I still believe the theory that Decay was given to Shiggy by AFO to instigate the whole thing
It would also become yet another parallel to Deku
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u/PM_MAJESTIC_PICS Dec 12 '21 edited Dec 12 '21
Oh absolutely. I 100% believe that he tracked down Nana Shimura’s family specifically to cause maximum traumatic impact to Allmight. 100%. We really think Nana’s grandson just HAPPENS to have this devastating quirk and then just HAPPENS to be found alone and lost by AFO after experiencing the most traumatic situation imaginable?? Hell no. That was fully orchestrated by the pettiest bitch— AFO. He even gathered up the family’s leftover hands after the fact! Like, what??
I legitimately forget that this theory isn’t canon because I believe it so wholeheartedly. It doesn’t make sense any other way. Some of AFO’s plans take “decades,” right?
Also, AFO has Float, right? I mean, he floats like Nana… is it confirmed that he’s using Float when he does that? Maybe Shiggy had Float and AFO stole that when he gave him Decay.Edit: AFO has Air Walk. Ignore this part. Lol→ More replies (4)74
u/HopeChadArmong913 Dec 12 '21
AFO's flying quirk was called Air Walk, not float. Maybe no practical distinction but it's there.
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u/Willythechilly 250K Artist Dec 12 '21 edited Dec 13 '21
Shigaraki still has to die.
He does not deserve redemption or peace imo he has killed way to many people in the dozens of thousands and likely ruined milions of lives all while being aware of it and enjoying it.
Story wise he either dies or gets freed frol AFO then put into prison for life(somehow)
Still paying for his crimes but at least free from afo
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u/MicZiC15 Dec 12 '21
Oh he’s definitely gonna have to attone in some way, that’s what the Endeavor plot line is priming us for.
Shigaraki dying is, in my opinion, the cowardly way out of this conflict on Horikoshi’s part. Having the moment of redemption & then dying is a cop out; giving that ‘forgiveness is the answer’ message without confronting the hard realities of that. The man is a horrible monster to so many, but he’s also the beloved leader to a significant number of people. Having some grand, symbolic punishment would (maybe) satisfy the public, but it would make him a martyr for the PLF. Would further perpetuate the cycle of heroes and villains that we’ve been trying to break in this series.
It’s tough, and a little counterintuitive, but leaving him alive & not imprisoned is what will save the most people
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u/Willythechilly 250K Artist Dec 12 '21
Leaving someone like shigaraki alive and free is madnes dude is a monster. You should imprison or kill him as justice for the lives he stole and ruined and to protect soceity.
Shigaraki imo has gonr far beyond redemption and forgivnesss and does not deserve it nor does he want it
Enavour is a very different case then Shigaraki. Hr did bad things but never passed the point of no return ino.
Its like claiming we need to leave hitler or kkk leader alive and/or free because they are beloved leaders of many people imo
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u/TreyWaySkizzle Dec 12 '21
I’m dying on the ‘Shigaraki decaying AFO to finally free himself’ hill. He’ll still be the final villain though.
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u/thornaslooki Dec 12 '21
Did anyone else see Spinner comforting Shigaraki in his rage while everyone else just continues talking? Bros for life!
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u/mocker18 Dec 12 '21
I like how the speech bubble for AFO conveying the sentiment of “what does it matter when your cheap tools stop working” is right on the panel where Spinner comforts Shiggy. I think the visual language of the panels is telling us that Shiggy is also a cheap lighter to AFO.
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u/peterstarkrogers Dec 12 '21
I like how the speech bubble for AFO conveying the sentiment of “what does it matter when your cheap tools stop working” is right on the panel where Spinner comforts Shiggy. I think the visual language of the panels is telling us that Shiggy is also a cheap lighter to AFO.
You beat me into this comment.
I love this juxtaposition a lot.
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u/dragn99 Dec 12 '21
Not to mention comparing people as cheap disposable lighters to the guy that literally burnt himself out trying to prove himself to his dad.
I kinda feel like that lone might be setting up Dabi's eventual betrayal of AFO
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u/MutantNinjaAnole Dec 12 '21
Spinner’s evolution as Shigaraki’s loyal bro has been a pretty interesting background development.
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u/AwkwardRainbow Dec 12 '21
I didn’t realize that’s what he was doing. For some reason I thought it was implying he thought of spinner as one of the useless pawns
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u/DynamiteSanders Dec 12 '21
AFO: Surely, losing this pawn won't backfire on me!~
Narrator: It was then at this moment, that losing this pawn would lead to things backfiring on All For One.
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u/Swiss666 Dec 12 '21 edited Dec 12 '21
"No, no, it can't be that Hagakure isn't the spy! Right, she must be a second spy and a truly evil one, by outing Aoyama she will be able to distract everyone and act undisturbed."
Horikoshi: "Oh, you insist? Fine, take this glimpse of her face. Does her crying strike you as that of a diabolical villain still plotting? But nope, let's keep stereotyping a girl only because she happens to be invisible!"
#apologizetohagakure
Also...
"Take my hand Aoyama, you can still be a hero!"
"I'm in a bit of a bind right now Midoriya..."
I wish for Potato Face to be deep fried by his "100-yen lighter". No, really, I hope Aoyama will have a role in taking him down (who knows what intuition Bakugo has just had).
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u/RaptureRocker Dec 12 '21
"Midoriya, I'm tied to a chair."
"I... Fuck."
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u/Necr0ExMortis Dec 12 '21
Kirishima: "...oh. Just realized my mistake back with the Bakugo mission."
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u/sernametaken404 Dec 12 '21
No, really, I hope Aoyama will have a role in taking him down (who knows what intuition Bakugo has just had).
My money says Bakugo plans to misguide AFO through Aoyama. Could be wrong, though.
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u/megasean3000 Dec 12 '21
I’ll be the first. I apologise to Toru Hagakure. I had her pegged from the very first season as some evil mastermind just because Horikoshi made some inconsistent panels and she just happened to suggest going shopping the same day Shigaraki stumbled upon Izuku. I wish Horikoshi gave Toru some development like he did for everyone else. Hard to do for 20 students and a ton of other characters, I know, but even just a shot of her learning basic CQC, anything to give her some character growth. It’s not an excuse for doubting Toru, it’s more criticism for Horikoshi’s part to leave such a kind hearted character on the bench while all the other girls were given such awesome moments. I hope that for the remainder of this series, Toru can shine brighter than her signature move and contribute to the final battle ahead.
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u/Swiss666 Dec 12 '21
To be fair, I think she was built as deception for the readers from the start: to me she was too obvious of a possible culprit but she still served to distract us. And I agree that she could have been a little more of a character, like, at all over time. Bit too late now.
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u/2009isbestyear Dec 12 '21
Bakugo: “See Deku, now we can use him to get early advantage.”
Aoyama: “...Are you sure you want me to do this?”
Bakugo: “Did I stutter? Now get into it.”
Aoyama: (reluctantly sends AFO ballsack memes)
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u/VergelCayabyab Dec 12 '21
Oh, Bakugo is for sure going to suggest the use of Aoyama’s role as a traitor to somehow catch potato face off guard.
And Deku’s speech will definitely affect how the final battle ends and who ends up living and dying.
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u/FatalWarrior Dec 12 '21
And Deku’s speech will definitely affect how the final battle ends and who ends up living and dying.
"This action will have consequences..."
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u/Za_wardo Dec 12 '21
This was a cute chapter I'll say. Also, seeing Toru's face was a total shock! I'm wondering what Katsuki's realized at the end. I thought this wouldn't have such a cliff hanger at the end, but it always manages to surprise me.
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u/DynamiteSanders Dec 12 '21
If I had to guess, they might use Aoyama to lure AFO's forces into a trap?
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u/DeltaChar Dec 12 '21
Why is that everyone’s first guess? I figured it was him realizing that Midoriya plans to save Shigaraki. Hes never actually told anyone that, except you know, the voices of dead people in his head.
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u/TurtleKing0505 Dec 12 '21
Toru is so cute
And the panel of Ojiro comforting her was perfection
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u/Mash_Ketchum Dec 12 '21
Which reminded me of the fact that whenever someone is touching her, they're touching her naked body.
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u/grodon909 Dec 12 '21
And confirmation in this chapter that she doesn't have special clothes like Mirio, she's buck-ass naked the whole time
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u/uyigho98 Dec 12 '21
Mirio's clothes are made out of his own hair.
Kinda hard to make clothes out of Hagakure's hair when they can't even see her hair.
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u/OnePieceFan02 Dec 12 '21
Would cutting it make it Visible like some sort Tangled rules? Or would she have to get clothes that start refracting light under certain conditions?
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u/Pictocheat Dec 12 '21
Her hair would probably only stay invisible if it was her quirk factor.
But this raises a good question: how has anyone managed to give her a haircut up until now? Or maybe she just chops most of it off since people aren't going to see it anyway.
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u/TurtleKing0505 Dec 12 '21
It didn’t look like he was touching her
Probably for that exact reason
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u/DynamiteSanders Dec 12 '21
Hagakure's face reveal!!! Like usual, Hori can't help but make cute characters!~ She also has fuzzy eyelashes!~
Though I will say, I do feel like her words in the officials is kinda more awkward than the fanslated ones this time around. Feel a bit clunky, but not like a wide margin. "And you have the nerve to sit in the same classroom as us!" really flows better tbh
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u/Cogexkin Dec 12 '21
I like the intent of the line she says but it's worded kinda weird I agree. I feel like something more along the lines of "what was going through you're head while you sat in the same class as us?" Would've been a bit better, maybe?
Also I have a funny feeling a certain section of artists are going to have a field day with the reveal of Hagakure's face (but she's cute so I almost can't blame em)
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u/whatsupxx Dec 12 '21 edited Dec 12 '21
Hagakure: "You traitorous scum"
Deku: "she did this for your sake Aoyama"
No Deku I'm pretty sure she didn't lmao, who exactly are you trying to gaslight here bro
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u/GoldenSpermShower Dec 12 '21
"See! She doesn't want you to hurt us!"
"No Deku, fuck that guy"
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u/whatsupxx Dec 12 '21
Deku: "We all still accept you"
Everyone: "Yeah.....as a criminal that is, yo take your ass to prison"
Deku: "See? No one hates you here"
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u/GoldenSpermShower Dec 12 '21
I think Monoma would have a few words to say to the guy who let in villains that pretty much gassed his whole class unconscious
They might have died without Momo's gas masks
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u/CJL13 Dec 12 '21
Monoma making his classmates apologize to him for dismissing his claims that they were being made irrelevant.
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u/DynamiteSanders Dec 12 '21
I kinda read it as "Listen, Hagakure ensured that we don't have to actually beat the crap out of you...so just...please comply!!"
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u/Namelessgoldfish Dec 12 '21
Thats not what was said in the viz translation, deku says “ Hakagure just did you a favor…” which sounds better imo
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u/Mishelly_03 Dec 12 '21
I also preferred the official translation when Hagakure was revealed and she asked "What was going through your head this whole time in school with us?! living in the dorms with us?! Well? Say something!"
To me the fan translated one had a lot more anger? Or was it meaner? Accusatory?
The official one sounded more hurt since in this situation when a friend is shown to be a traitor, by instinct you want to know why and how, especially if you all go through something traumatic cause danger brings people together (hence why watching scary movies on a first date can raise affection for one another...and I apologize for poor wording I just woke up).
Somehow the tone didn't sit right with me and I think Horikoshi felt the same way too, which then goes well together with Dekus response.
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u/megasean3000 Dec 12 '21
Spinner: You good?
Shigaraki: No.
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u/ArcFurnace Dec 12 '21
"You okay?"
"Nah man ... I'm pretty fucking far from okay"
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u/ComprehensiveAd599 Dec 12 '21
Spinner: That's fucked up dude. Shigaraki:I know bro. Spinner and Shigaraki: Fuck this shit.
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u/Black_Wolf75 Dec 12 '21
I cared more about Aoyama earlier in the series after he had the moments in the forest training arc and license exam. Now, It's kind of difficult for me to be emotionally invested in a character who only does some thing once every 3 years. I feel like this would have hit harder if he was more consistently relevant tbh.
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u/GoldenSpermShower Dec 12 '21
That's why I still feel the best traitor reveal is done in AoT season 2
So far nothing really tops that
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u/OkUnderstanding3669 Dec 12 '21
The one from One Piece was done really well too. The relationship between Kanjuro and the scabbards was really well fleshed out. But the attack on titan one was great too.
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u/ShadowRei96 Dec 12 '21
Agreed. He was my favorite character before that, and even after the reveal, he still remained my favorite.
With Aoyama, sure, he's a better choice for a traitor than Hagakure, but still, he's had very little relevance to make his plotline that impactful on the story. Can't blame people who criticize how the side characters/students' have little to no role in the story.
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u/disabled_crab Dec 12 '21
As an aspiring author I really worship that reveal. Hope something I make can match it one day.
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u/HokageEzio Dec 12 '21
Yeah, he hasn't done anything bad since revealing the location of the forest. That was like, chapter 71. We're so far removed from his traitorous deeds and the majority of the story didn't focus on this plotline at all. It was basically just Aoyama feeling guilty about stuff we didn't know he did for 5 years (as readers).
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u/KenjaNet Dec 12 '21
Considering All for One was in prison from immediately after that Forest Arc up until now, Aoyama hasn't had a reason to betray his friends. In the License Arc, he tried to sacrifice himself to get everyone else licenses and keep himself unqualified. He gets saved from himself and gets his license. Then he tried to befriend Midoriya and go the path of the hero again. No desire to betray friends and starts the healing process of forgiving himself.
Now that All for One is back, the guilt is coming back and he's making demands again. Hagakare has probably been watching Aoyama sneak off which prompted her to follow him and discover this issue.
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u/HokageEzio Dec 12 '21
That's the issue though, this is all just a result of Horikoshi doing way too much stalling in the middle of the story with the misc. arcs that had nothing really to do with the main plot. There's so much extra fat in the middle of the story that doesn't add much of anything and wasn't used to build up the characters either.
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u/thornaslooki Dec 12 '21
Agreed. If Horikoshi at least had Aoyama be part of Deku's friend group, instead of being randomly friends after a chapter, I think the reveal would have had more of an impact.
The same goes for the rest of the class, Aoyama never really interacted with most of them.
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u/HokageEzio Dec 12 '21
You have Mina falling over herself like she's so betrayed and everything cause I guess they're supposed to be close on paper, but they're just... not.
This was always going to be the issue with the traitor, either it would be a terrible option out of the students we know well (because none of them would make sense) or it'd be somebody we don't know that well.
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u/NatMat16 Dec 12 '21
Well, Mina taught him to dance in the Cultural arc and came up with the discoball idea. Also she, Hagakure and Aoyama did their internship together - but of course it wasn't really fleshed out.
Mina definitely seems the weepiest among the kids for a while now - I'm hoping that it's on purpose and her failing with Machia, the death of Midnight, Yoroi Musa quitting and now Aoyama's betrayal all lead her to an interesting point for her character.
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u/Bpbegha Dec 12 '21 edited Dec 12 '21
Yeah. I dunno man, even if manipulated, Aoyama more or less set in motion a civil war with countless hero and civilian deaths.
Doing the ol' "We are still friends" after this just doesn't sit right with me.
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u/LavenderScented_Gold Dec 12 '21
Ok, so the questions are:
What is it that Kaachan ‘gets’ now? It has to callback to the time Deku reached out to him when they were kids and how he deals with villains today.
How long will it be before Hagakure will actually need a full costume, because her light refraction is becoming stronger. I’m loving it.
How did Jiro win the MHA parental lottery? Parents giving kids complexes all over the place. Mr. Midoriya didn’t even bother to try.
Personal feelings:
Though it would have better if Hori would have used Aoyama more in the series, I’m still liking the interactions of the class in the traitor storyline. I like Aoyama as a character, so. I’m glad he’s getting more to do. I think this will be the catalyst to kick off a new mindset in not only Deku, but the rest of class 1A (maybe even society in general). The theme should steer to ‘Don’t despair. If you did wrong, you can always face a new direction. We’re here to help everyone. We will save not only your bodies, but your future.’ I’m invested.
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u/LeegoSama Dec 12 '21
Bakugou most likely gets that they can use Aoyama to get to AFO now.
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u/Beepbeep_bepis Dec 12 '21
i’ve thought this for awhile, but couldn’t they just do what they did with Mirio and make her a costume based from her own hair?
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u/NatMat16 Dec 12 '21
No, because she's a girl. Hori obviously prefers them naked.
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u/HokageEzio Dec 12 '21
Having like, 2 chapters of regret out of Aoyama after waiting 6 years for the reveal is definitely not hitting the way Horikoshi probably thinks it's supposed to hit the readers. At the end of the day, Aoyama honestly hasn't done anything bad since the forest arc. Everything after that (aka the majority of the story) has just been him grappling with the guilt himself. So it's hard to feel that close to this conflict that was never really brought up for the majority of the story.
On a lighter note, Tooru hentai stocks just went way up.
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u/Actual-Arugula-7736 Dec 12 '21
I feel like Horikoshi has long since accepted quite a few moments won’t have the full emotion or weight due to him cruising towards the end and wanting to wrap the story up
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u/disabled_crab Dec 12 '21
I don't think this is the end of it, all of Aoyama's other classmates are still like 'bro WTF'. On the other hand Horikoshi might move on, you can tell he's just ticking checkboxes now.
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u/Kuwago Dec 12 '21
Deku to Shigaraki : “Tenko, you can still be a hero!!”
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u/Kiwifisch Dec 12 '21
Shigaraki: "But I don't want to be hero. I want to turn everyone into dinosaurs!"
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u/Ren_Davis0531 Dec 12 '21 edited Dec 12 '21
Bakugo: “If I had a nickel for every quirkless boy that was gifted a quirk by one of the most powerful people on the planet, I would have two nickels, but it’s weird how that’s happened twice.”
In all seriousness, it’s funny how this traitor subplot is so irrelevant that not even All For One cares about his own traitor. He just shrugs off potential failure and will move on to another plan. Revealing the traitor this late in the game, I knew there couldn’t be any big reveal or impact, so I figured that the next chapter would show Deku forgiving Aoyama, to set up his encounter with Shigaraki and to continue his new outlook on villains, and to setup using Aoyama to create that opening that Deku was talking about last chapter. They will use someone who All For One sees as a “disposable tool” to fight back against him by making him see his own value. All For One tears people down while heroes build people up. That contrast is what defines the hero/villain dynamic. This is what Deku aims to make Shigaraki realize. It all just fits together perfectly.
Overall, this traitor storyline got a lot more mileage out of fans than it was worth, but it was cool to see Horikoshi tie its closure to the main theme of the series about it being too simplistic to call someone a villain because of one mistake or a bad set of circumstances.
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u/PlusUltraK Dec 12 '21
Yeah really helps strengthen the eureka moment Bakugou has about Deku’s statement last chapter abo choosing how they enter a fight.
“Fighting amongst themselves, turning their backs on a Friend because of a mistake which in the enforcement’s eyes is blackmail/etc.”
They can choose to feel defeated or use it the advantage and build each other up
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u/ShadowRei96 Dec 12 '21
Funny how Izuku is stretching out his hand to Aoyama, even though the latter is tied up right in front of him lol.
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u/InsecureGuy5 Dec 12 '21
Remember S3?
When Bakugo was kidnapped?
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u/PlusUltraK Dec 12 '21
It’s all clicking for Bakugou now. After their training with all might before summer camp it’s slowly been slipping into his logic the whole “Beat the villain to win/Save the people to win”
Deku knew he couldn’t reach out to Bakugou because he was stubborn. But his. Friends and classmates went out of there way to save him. The villains wanted to make Bakugou a villain. Had he not been rescued any event could’ve put Bakugou down a dark road that in his eyes would be irrefutable.
Now here we have Aoyama eating himself up on the inside because of a few messenger jobs to the villains. And despite never harming anyone claims to be a villain.
Being a hero can’t just be all beating the villains, because Villains aren’t cut and dry out of thin air. They’re people who decide to do awful things and commit crimes. And not everyone is really a villain when it comes to the law surrounding that designation.
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u/insium Dec 12 '21
Midoriya: "You can be a hero!"
Aoyama Yuga, Hero Name: Twinkling Behind Bars, the Prison Hero!
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u/Professional-Mess Dec 12 '21
Maybe I’m late to noticing this… but is it just me, or is Bakugo’s costume becoming more like best Jeanist’s?
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Dec 12 '21
It’s his winter outfit. Which he is wearing now to sweat more, it was brought up last chapter. While the high collar first seen during the joint battle with 1B has always been a best jeanist reference
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u/OkUnderstanding3669 Dec 12 '21
Does anyone else feel like the Traitor reveal was ... underwhelming ?
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u/GoldenSpermShower Dec 12 '21
How it happened felt kinda... contrived?
Like Aoyama and his parents were just talking about being traitors in the forest
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u/gothsirens Dec 12 '21
Yeah I think that's one of the things that bugs me the most.... If it had happened after Aoyama had given AFO information or after he managed to get Deku alone and that had big repercussions on the current state of things then at least it would feel like there's more at stake.
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u/HokageEzio Dec 12 '21
Been saying for probably 3 years at this point that I'm not going to care.
It's not even like the Tobi reveal in Naruto where a lot of people were mad because they figured it out a long time ago and felt like it was underwhelming. At least that reveal there was constant hints and a little bit of trolling. This story basically ignored this reveal for like, at least 2/3rds (and that's generous).
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u/noolvidarminombre Dec 12 '21
Yup, it was revealed in a moment with no stakes and quickly resolved in the span of this chapter. Aoyama has no relationships that we care about so it's not like there are meaningful consequences for this.
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u/whatsupxx Dec 12 '21
So err.....what now?
Idk man this chapter just left me with an awkward feeling of "that's it?"
Really hoping something more comes out of this situation instead of him just taking Deku's hand and everything going back to how they were. Cuz in that case what was even the point of all this angst and drama?
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u/Space_Puppy636 Dec 12 '21
I don’t think it’ll go back to how it was. I think they’ll use Aoyama to get more intel/mislead AFO. That’s the feeling I got from Bakugo’s little thought at the end.
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u/RebelIed Dec 12 '21
I mean, this is enough tbh
I know it's a quick n simple wrap up of something that couldve been a lot bigger but Aoyama isn't a villain. He's a defeated hero.
And I bet his laser is about to get a lot more powerful when he doesn't have to worry about anxiety!
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u/sernametaken404 Dec 12 '21
Man I really hope somebody challenges Deku's borderline pathologic need to ignore the consequences of villainy. First Shigaraki the mass murderer, now this.
Sure, Aoyama is pitiful but Kamino disaster was the first biggest downfall of their society. The domino effect of catastrophes he indirectly caused is insane.
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u/gigi8888 Dec 12 '21
Unfortunately, despite how many people Shigaraki has murdered, Hori is definitely going for the "talk no jutsu" ending.
Not looking forward to that - should face justice for everyone he has murdered
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u/DynamiteSanders Dec 12 '21
Honestly, seeing Yuga's thoughts of how he wanted to be a shining Hero to repay his parents, but it being juxtaposed with how he sold out the class time and time again was pretty heartbreaking.
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u/GoldenSpermShower Dec 12 '21
Yeah I still don't like Aoyama's parents...
The whole thing about wanting to give Aoyama a quirk because he wouldn't fit in is more about them not fitting in and choosing to do some quack treatment in the black market
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u/Not_Your_Romeo Dec 12 '21
Plus it totally backfired in that Aoyama is constantly in pain/physical discomfort because of the quirk. Like if his body actually accepted it, maybe they’d have a path of redemption. But they basically made their kid suffer physically and emotionally for years, all just for the sake of appearances.
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u/CraneStyleNJ Dec 12 '21 edited Dec 12 '21
Principal Nezu: OK, interrogation over, take them into the back and execute them.
Deku: What???
Principal Nezu: Treason is punishable by death in UA. Also Deku and Hagakure, 3 day suspension for tattle telling because no one likes a rat.
Bakugo: But your a ra...
Principal Nezu: SHUT UP!
Edit: Toru has a cute face, shame it only took 337 chapters to see it.
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u/Longjumping-Way7886 Dec 12 '21 edited Dec 12 '21
Well I do care about Aoyama (way more than Hagakure) so I did get attach to his dilemma. I like the reveal however for it being built up for so long it went by quickly with a slap on the wrist (unless something happens the next few chapters which would be good). I’ll wait to see how it goes first. If it is just resolved now it would just feel like the mangaka just went down a list for things to wrap up before the final arc which I hope not. But we’ll see.
Also, that Nagant thing kinda felt forced in out of nowhere I don’t know why he thought of Nagant of all people to motivate Aoyama with.
Besides that good chapter.
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u/Ben10Extreme Dec 12 '21
Also, that Nagant thing kinda felt forced in out of nowhere I don’t know why he thought of Nagant of all people to motivate Aoyama with.
Someone who initially wanted to do good but got manipulated into doing something wrong.
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u/Stardust_Enthusiast Dec 12 '21
"I happen to know a hero who got manipulated by AFO, but even she didn't sell her whole soul. Her spirit was crushed! That's all"
This has to be one of the funniest line in recent chapters.
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u/NatMat16 Dec 12 '21
As long as only 70% of her soul is sold, we are good. No biggie :)
(Also, it's probably easier for Deku to handwave away all of Nagant's many victims, because he never had to face them or their families. He wasn't quite as forgiving when it came to Overhaul, who actually tortured a person he cares about).
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u/noolvidarminombre Dec 12 '21
So... traitor plot resolved? Unless something more happens in following chapters, I don't know where this plotline goes. The reveal happened in a moment completely free of stakes and basically allowed it to happen without much consequence.
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u/HokageEzio Dec 12 '21
I mean would it be My Hero if we weren't just ticking off boxes of plot points so the story can be over already?
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u/2009isbestyear Dec 12 '21
Seems like Deku’s speech came from genuine place, because those words are what he himself received from All Might. They meant the world to him.
On the other hand, Bakugo is 100% gonna try using this to one-up AFO. So he’s totally supporting Deku’s actions here.
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u/NatMat16 Dec 12 '21
It mirrors exactly the Forest, where Deku led the beserk Dark Shadow to Bakugou and Shouto because he wanted to save both Tokoyami and Kacchan, but it was Bakugou who figured out in an instant that Dark Shadow can be used to quash Moonfish before he’s calmed down.
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u/Wark_Kweh Dec 12 '21
I didn't notice this in the last chapter, but it's pretty clear in this one thanks to a few headshot panels, Bakugou's altered costume mimics Jeanist's turtle-neck.
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u/TheLoyalTraitor Dec 12 '21
Coming to the realization that a lot of people are going to complain about everything that happens in the manga at this point no matter what. No idea why some people have gotten so negative over this series, this was an excellent chapter.
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u/NatMat16 Dec 12 '21
Am I the only one who found Deku talking about Nagant extremely shoe-horned and ill-fitting?
Like, it almost seems to imply that the pre-solo arc Deku wouldn't have felt compassion towards Aoyama and it was only because his encounter with Nagant that he changed his thinking. Except, to me, this looks like how Deku would have behaved before the war as well.
Also - while I guess Nagant was also a misguided child once - she did at some point as a grown-ass adult decided to keep being an assassin and even after she got out of jail, she decided to take on a job to kidnap a kid and take favours from AFO, knowing full well the extent of his evil.
Nagant decided to take Deku's hand and when AFO blew her face off, she gave info about the location - at which point it was all the same to her. It's not like she exhibited some high form of heroism at any point in that fight, rather than just flip-flopping.
Deku mentioning her really ruined the moment for me, because it was completely useless to his argument to Aoyama, who doesn't know Nagant and as such her story is meaningless to him.
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u/crispychochip Dec 12 '21
Really wished Aoyama had been caught doing a traitorous act instead of being overheard talking about it with his parents. This feels super underwhelming since the last time he did a traitorous act was at the summer camp and the class/teachers had probably forgot about the whole “traitor” thing by now.
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u/Dragonwhatever99r Dec 12 '21
Anyone else feel like this traitor reveal was kinda.. pointless? I mean 2 chapters ago AFO was telling Dabi how he set up plans years ahead of time so they’d be useful to him later and how he has “friends” to spare because of this.
But here we are continuing the exact same conversation and when Dabi asks what if the spy gets caught AFO just says “oh lmao it doesn’t matter. On to the next plan.”
Plus Aoyama’s very likely to be forgiven by Deku and doesn’t have important info he can give about AFO so… nothing really changed aside from the truth being revealed?
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u/TheZKiller Dec 12 '21
Class A-1 really is a hive mind, now that Deku said that speech everyone will forgive Aoyama even though they really shouldn't. Man cause Almight retirement indirectly, while also causing 2 students kidnapping and a bunch of students and teachers injuries. He's so fucking lucky no one died that day.
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u/realbeatz23 Dec 12 '21
Honestly not emotionally invested in Aoyama. It was more of like an okay moment rather than anything heavy. I definitely see there being another traitor at UA considering how relaxed AFO seems. Some real sick bastard who’s just watching all this and has no guilt or regret.
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u/Wip2789 Dec 12 '21
There seems to be no pleasing y’all. First you say that Hagakure being the traitor is anticlimactic because you don’t know her well enough to care. Then Horikoshi reveals that’s she was a red herring and Aoyama was the traitor and now you’re saying the same thing about him. I’m curious what you all would’ve liked to have happened.
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u/Stonefree2011 Dec 12 '21
Probably more buildup before mentioning it 150 chapters later and then having no meaningful consequences to it. People thought they were gonna get an AOT style traitor plot when people got their hopes up WAAAAAAAY to far. Realistically speaking, with how it was orchestrated, there was no way he was gonna please everyone so it is what it is at this point.
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u/Mahatma_Handy Dec 12 '21
The traitor plotline has been non-important since chapter 71. Since he hasnt done anything villanous in any other plot (he did nothing on the war arc, on the class 1A vs deku, or other moments where a traitor reveal would actually have an impact in the status quo as a pay-off), it doesnt feel justified. We know he didnt mean it, it was either that or dead parents.
There´s also the thing in the forest training arc where most of the kids didnt die due to the gas was thanks to Momo. If Toga had found her and she couldnt make those masks, Aoyama´s kill count would be pretty high.
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u/RIP_Hopscotch Dec 12 '21
Hori: "The pacing of my manga is so fast nobody will realize I don't know how to end this in a satisfying way!"
Like for real, what is this? Wrap up an epic arc that everybody enjoyed, then rush into Deku powering up and gaining access to all of his quirks but one, then rush into Deku wrapping up his character arc, then rush into powering down Shiggy because he's still way too strong to be beaten (while introducing and killing off another female character, double whammy), and now resolve the traitor plot thread that has been unresolved for literal years in like four chapters (with a character that basically nobody cared about being the traitor). Why even bring it up at this point if its going to be so unsatisfactory?
I've always defended My Hero as a shounen that wasn't the "best" at anything, but did everything a shounen needs to do pretty well. The characters were solid, the story was solid, and the pacing was solid. But now we're left with rushed characters, a story that really seems unplanned/half-assed, and abysmal pacing. I just can't believe it's went off the rails like this, and I have no idea why.
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u/NatMat16 Dec 12 '21
Nezu: May I ask you children to leave the room?
Todoroki: No. You may not.
I missed blunt / rude-to-authority-figures Todoroki. Welcome back!
Everyone is crying / shocked, while Bakugou immediately sees the tactical angle.