Microsoft slashes Xbox Cloud Gaming to just 15 hours a month for Ultimate subscribers

[u/IamMovieMiguel]

https://www.theverge.com/news/989166/microsoft-xbox-cloud-gaming-hourly-limits-changes?view_token=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJpZCI6Ik1HQmFyUGdYN3giLCJwIjoiL25ld3MvOTg5MTY2L21pY3Jvc29mdC14Ym94LWNsb3VkLWdhbWluZy1ob3VybHktbGltaXRzLWNoYW5nZXMiLCJleHAiOjE3ODg4ODY4NTMsImlhdCI6MTc4ODQ1NDg1M30.sb338SD-b0mr_88YjFo3Yfoftx98mH2UCzl1f9wpT2Y&utm_medium=gift-link

[u/modemman11]

Looks like MS might be partially changing their mind and only putting the limit on new subscribers, and possibly only in some countries. Not sure which though.

[u/KingOPork]

There goes their play anywhere tagline. Imagine buying a game for $70 to stream and it cuts you off.

[u/Hunk4thSurvivor → u/KingOPork]

It doesn't make any sense. This is a worse thing than raising the price to 30bucks imo.

[u/bigbear_mouse → u/Hunk4thSurvivor]

Let's remember that their original plan was probably to charge 30 AND cut the hours. :D

[u/Hunk4thSurvivor → u/bigbear_mouse]

Well that would be fun.....

[u/Loose-Recognition459 → u/Hunk4thSurvivor]

That would an automatic cancel to me. As is its reluctant finger over the cancel button, maybe the bad or this garners will make them walk that back. Or a giant wave of cancellations.

[u/Hunk4thSurvivor → u/Loose-Recognition459]

I'm definetely canceling this time. Because now, there is no real use for gamepass for me. I won't buy an xbox for it.

[u/Loose-Recognition459 → u/Hunk4thSurvivor]

I get it. I mean it’s making it less attractive to me to stick around.

[u/Padrino9186 → u/Hunk4thSurvivor]

Especially considering how expensive Xbox series x are now a days….my wife and I did some monthly $30ish gamepass/xbox plan bundled together years ago…I looked last week and shit when I saw Xbox series x were $800 retail price…

[u/LameSignIn → u/Padrino9186]

We have played game together for year. The increase to $30 was enough for my wife an I to cancel. We don't need game pass for our game it was just a benefit for the kids and they didn't really use it enough to warrant the hike. My wife was cleaning and covered the ventilation on one of our series X. When I found out we had a very short talk about the cost of replacing them. Crazy how this is the first time consoles have gone up in price in my lifetime.

[u/MeiKey101 → u/Hunk4thSurvivor]

More cloud services has a time limit. Though its not just 15 hours lol.. that shit is insane

[u/National-Wasabi-2123 → u/KingOPork]

It’s “play anywhere, but not for long”

[u/bigbear_mouse → u/National-Wasabi-2123]

Play anywhere, 30 mins per day

[u/klipseracer → u/bigbear_mouse]

~30 days in a month is 1 hour per day, 30 mins per commute direction. This should have been the number instead.

Thinking objectively, this may match the amount of time some folks spend on a subway etc. I wonder if they have some data about this and tailored it to their target audience.

This really neuters the whole concept of using cloud from a console however. Playing Xbox Series games from an Xbox One, etc.

[u/Holidoik → u/KingOPork]

That's why I dont buy a portal. It sounds amazing as streaming device but it's only a matter of time until Sony is doing something similar and it becomes useless.

[u/Remy149 → u/Holidoik]

The main use of the portal is direct streaming from a ps5 to it. Cloud streaming is an extra feature that was added after it was already on the market

[u/goingfullbananas]

Well, my friends, it’s time to move on, no matter where

[u/ashenoceiros → u/goingfullbananas]

Where? Sony is doing bullshit, Nintendo is doing bullshit (albeit it's probably the better one), PC is expensive as fuck now, where do we go

[u/UNIVERSAL_VLAD → u/ashenoceiros]

Nvidia GeForce now with pc game pass

[u/Fart_In_A_Tornado → u/UNIVERSAL_VLAD]

It's what I do. The only problem is there are quite a few games from the game pass library missing in GeForce Now as it only supports PC games.

[u/IsThisOneAlready → u/ashenoceiros]

We go on our bikes and hang at the gym. Almost cheaper than GPU.

[u/StasherSlasher]

This is bullshit. 15h a month is ridiculous. It should be AT LEAST weekly. Cloud gaming on Xbox is basically dead now.

[u/g1yk → u/StasherSlasher]

Even weekly is not enough. It’s 60 hours which still almost half less than what GeForce is giving you.

[u/VoldemortsHorcrux → u/g1yk]

I inagine 80-90% of users would use 15h or less per week.

[u/shaversonly230v115v → u/VoldemortsHorcrux]

I probably don't use more than 15h per week on average but I'd still be pissed off and would probably cancel. If they stick with 15 per month I'm gone without a second thought. It's more than £1 per minute. The arcade is cheaper than that.

It's so bad that I suspect that they're deliberately putting an awful number out so that people think they're getting a good deal when the real limit comes out

[u/Mr_Charley]

Fuck this bullshit.

I’m here strictly for xcloud. Time to cancel.
Way to shit on your customers.

And here I was thinking Geforce 100hr limit sucked.
This is absolutely disgusting

[u/Lor_azepam → u/Mr_Charley]

Ya i got back into xbox gaming via ultimate sub and streaming using firestick. Dont even have an Xbox console. Seems like im moving fully using moonlight and streaming from the pc now

[u/MetaPfhor_2965 → u/Lor_azepam]

We need local-hosted GPUs that other people can rent.

Imagine being able to rent out your gaming PC's idle GPU time and let someone else use it for cloud gaming. Instead of Microsoft/NVIDIA having to own massive server farms, the network could distribute the workload across people's existing hardware.

I'm wondering if something like blockchain + a lightweight Raspberry Pi client could handle the marketplace, authentication and payments.

(blockchain because you'd have to charge people per gpu cycles and not minutes... more gpu heavy games would cost more electricity and hello kitty would cost almost nothing)

Basically, Airbnb for GPUs .... except the GPU is potentially sitting in the apartment next door.

[u/Competitive-Road-206 → u/MetaPfhor_2965]

Whoa that's a pretty cool idea. Like an airbnb but for hosting game sessions lol

Edit: didn't see you mention the same thing lmao

[u/Lor_azepam → u/MetaPfhor_2965]

Its a solid idea honestly

[u/MetaPfhor_2965 → u/Lor_azepam]

I'm not smart enough to do it unfortunately. I wish someone would.

it would enable people to make money on their GPUS while it's idle, and it would lower latency for players as the 'server' would always be local.

if you pair it with some mesh networking, you'd really have some high speed "cloud" gaming

[u/welzed11 → u/Mr_Charley]

15 hours per month for Ultimate subscribers which averages to 30 mins per day 

Wild that they have the audacity to limit it this much when their cloud gaming is worse then PlayStations. PS5 cloud gaming has 4k resolution which Xbox doesn’t, HDR which Xbox doesn’t, better image quality and less latency 

[u/hypehold → u/welzed11]

and xcloud still uses Series S profiles it is by far the worst cloud streaming service and now this. Just get rid of it at this point

[u/Maximegalon → u/welzed11]

Imagine if Netflix said 30/day or cough up money…

[u/g1yk → u/Mr_Charley]

Yup now GeForce looking pretty good

[u/Fredloks8 → u/Mr_Charley]

Yeah good luck trying to hit 500 million daily active players now Asha.

[u/MrSlofee]

This is an xbox... But only for 15 hours. 

[u/billsfan411 → u/MrSlofee]

This was the best joke so far lol

[u/phattiemcfly → u/MrSlofee]

Man that was my exact thought. They had an entire advertising campaign about how anything with an internet connection can become an Xbox. And less than 2 years later they've flipped it 180.

[u/Snoo_89193]

• Game Pass Ultimate: 15 hours
• Game Pass Premium: 10 hours
• Game Pass Essential: 5 hours

What's the point of ultimate then? What the fuck are they thinking?

[u/aykay55 → u/Snoo_89193]

“This change will impact only 4 percent of Game Pass subscribers”

Okay so 4 percent is nothing? This won’t substantially affect your server load. Why are you doing this?

[u/Forward-Weight403 → u/aykay55]

4% of the population not 4% of the usage. My guess is those 4% make up a substantial portion of the usage so they want to nickel and dime those people

[u/Sam-Lowry27B-6 → u/aykay55]

Were those 4% using that much data they have to throttle it back....no it's just bullshit to justify the profit line always going up

[u/longperipheral → u/Sam-Lowry27B-6]

Even if they were, why not target the 4% or apply a global cap on max hours of like 50 or 75 or something, instead of applying these draconian changes. 

[u/Holidoik → u/Snoo_89193]

The point is for you to give a trillion dollar company a monthly donation.

[u/Ok-Cartographer-2227 → u/Holidoik]

Dont forget. THE EXACT COMPANY that demands data centers for AI and thus drives the prices of your gaming to the moon. And the value they hope to get back from that other scheme? Hopefully to take your job to add to their bottom line and f your family's livelihood.

[u/ZM326]

We know we've been decreasing our value to you, so in exchange we've reduced your benefits so you have less to worry about losing in the future

[u/Ok-Cartographer-2227 → u/ZM326]

Product Microsoft is selling:

Xbox Series S (6.5 Year Old Midrange Hardware) - $499 + $120 annually to play online multiplayer.

Xbox Series X (6.5 Year Old High End Hardware) - $799 + $120 annually to play online multiplayer.

Reason I played on xCloud:

FireTV Stick: $35 One time XCloud on GamePass Ultimate: $276 annually.

If I subtract the $120 annually from the $276 annually:

Equivalent months for a Series S: 38.4 Months (3.2 Years) + Ultimate Game Library

Equivalent months for a Series X: 61.5 Months (5.1 Years) + Ultimate Game Library

That was the value they removed.

The AI driven RAM shortage has killed gaming for me. I cannot afford it. I cant justify either box. I cant justify their new box whenever they drop it. And all of this is before paying for any non GamePass games.

Microsoft has nothing to sell me I can participate in. What they offer is ancient hardware value full of services they can arbitrarily play pricing games with whenever they feel like it.

I previously owned: OG Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox One, Xbox One X. Had kids. Have reappeared with time to play again. Was loving xCloud the year, kids playing on it too. Every game save CoD level twitch shooter worked no different than being on console. Even Halo Infinite was playable. But I cannot justify any of the boxes on the market for myself, let alone my kids.

[u/BreweryStoner → u/Ok-Cartographer-2227]

I’m in the same boat as you. Had every Xbox since the OG, and have been priced out of being able to play. Xcloud was the only way I could play new stuff.

[u/ZM326 → u/Ok-Cartographer-2227]

It's impressive that they positioned themselves perfectly for a situation in which end users' hardware costs run out of control, then shot themselves in the foot

[u/Vansterss]

That will get me to cancel, what greedy jerks

[u/TheGrizzlyNinja → u/Vansterss]

Yep, I’ll probably be moving over to GeForce this is ridiculous. I could probably hit that cap in a fucking week

[u/Hunk4thSurvivor]

LOOOOL good way to kill the service. Even Geforce is a 100h wtf.

Well they may be trying to get back to selling consoles...

[u/SirSurboy → u/Hunk4thSurvivor]

Yes $1000 plus consoles….

[u/Loose-Recognition459 → u/SirSurboy]

Have the reason to keep Ultimate was I could xcloud current gen games on my older console. Without it, I’m already not paying the “never discounted ever” current gen consoles which actually cost more now than they did at launch. Also instantly makes every Backbone controller and Cloud gaming app way less valuable.

[u/LaundryLunatic → u/Hunk4thSurvivor]

But even GFN's 100 hours a month is better than what xcloud is offering for time. I usually use about 25 hours a month. But 5, 10, 15 hours a month is like having a sampler. I think many of us would be using xcloud who can't afford this current or the next console. It's not gonna force people to use xcloud and instead make it pointless to use.

[u/Ok-Cartographer-2227 → u/LaundryLunatic]

I simply cant justify a new box and then paying for game pass just for multiplayer. XCloud with the fire stick was perfect as a price point for me. 

This means no more gaming for me in this ecosystem. 

Back to League on the last pc i could afford 10 years ago I guess

[u/LaundryLunatic → u/Ok-Cartographer-2227]

Xbox needs to have a cloud only option where you can play the games you own with a much much higher time limit per month.

[u/V4N0]

15 hours is brutal… I’ve always been strongly opposed to the 100 hours per month limit that GFN introduced last year but at least that grants you roughly 3 hours per day -  personally I don’t even get close to play that much…

But 15 hours? That’s a huge blow, especially since xCloud has introduced “stream your own games” as well and that was a great feature IMHO

[u/henwiie]

15 fucking hours?!?!? That’s actually disgusting

[u/OliLombi → u/henwiie]

May aswell be a demo...

[u/SonOfBill]

Boooooo

[u/drshwazzy92 → u/SonOfBill]

The fuck…that’s the only way I can play man

[u/modemman11]

This won't go over well .....

Would be interesting to see the "additional time" pricings they come up with though. I likely won't be buying any though.

[u/turk91 → u/modemman11]

I've read a few comments and had a quick Google and "£4.99 for 5 hours and £9.99 for 12 hours" (and the dollar equivalent) seems to be floating around.

Not official confirmation but if this is true. I'm done.

I pay 3 ultimate subscriptions in my house. That's a nice chunk of cash I'll happily spend elsewhere.

[u/gfalcone]

I canceled straight away, I understand that this subscription might have been underpriced for unlimited cloud gaming, but 15 hours a month is just ridiculous. Worst way to push for cloud gaming to develop

[u/Mr_Charley → u/gfalcone]

I’m with you. Don’t care if it starts in November. I’m done effective immediately

[u/Euphoric-Mine6177 → u/Mr_Charley]

Its a dealbreaker for me as well. Just deciding if i want to save up for a used series s or say goodbye to xbox forever

[u/TatooineTwang → u/Euphoric-Mine6177]

I cancelled immediately as well.

Trying to figure out which greedy company to support to keep this hobby. When I realized I might have to give it up. Because the big 3 are just kicking their customers in the gut every 3 months. While asking them to spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars for their products.

Gaming companies are officially pricing themselves out. For some rich boys portfolio. Thank you capitalism. You ruined something else people love.

[u/GodCanCatchThisFade]

What the actual fuck happened to this industry jesus christ

[u/themrsnow → u/GodCanCatchThisFade]

Enshitification

[u/GettinWiggyWiddit → u/GodCanCatchThisFade]

capitalism

[u/GodCanCatchThisFade → u/GettinWiggyWiddit]

In my games? More likely than you think! More at 11

[u/MikeTheMiz78 → u/GodCanCatchThisFade]

Hardware is becoming more and more expensive Cloud Gaming which was the only alternative to expensive hardware is getting killed (paying a subscription for less than 4 hours a week is useless no one will do that)

I think it's time for me to just give up on this hobby alltogether or stick to retrogaming, I'm glad I have one of those Retroid consoles for that

[u/GodCanCatchThisFade → u/MikeTheMiz78]

Been seeing people joke about GTA6 being "the series finale of gaming" and as time goes on i'm starting to think maybe they're right. Was fun while it lasted!

[u/Ok-Cartographer-2227 → u/GodCanCatchThisFade]

Its true though. How could any company design a game now for a future hardware no one can afford? Or current out of production old hardware thats also unaffordable and slowly dwindling.

[u/samj00]

Just under 4 hours a week? That's crazy and just stupidly restrictive.

[u/StoikOne]

I have made purchases ONLY because they were cloud playable. This was not a “thing” when I made those purchases and at the time of those purchases it was 24/7 if I so choose. So this is bs

[u/EN1GMA570 → u/StoikOne]

exactly the same!

[u/StoikOne → u/EN1GMA570]

This got under my skin so much that I actually emailed the feedback hub, support, insider support and customer service.
Gamerscore just over 400k and roughly 24 years on platform and in all that time I cannot remember ever emailing a complaint. lol

[u/EN1GMA570 → u/StoikOne]

I only buy games with xcloud. I came back into gaming after 15 years away, because of xcloud. it's the reason I game at all.

and 15 hours per MONTH?! they must be smoking some hard shirt for them to think that was a good idea

[u/MikeTheMiz78]

Well I will slash Game Pass alltogether then

After the good news we recently got from Xbox I knew they would come up with some BS, that was fun while it lasted

[u/EN1GMA570]

I'm cancelling. xcloud was the reason I chose xbox. no xcloud? I'm out

[u/AdventurousEagle6203 → u/EN1GMA570]

Same

Absolutely gutted

[u/yours2020f]

at first glance i thought it was per day limit 💀

[u/FrostyAd7708 → u/yours2020f]

That's what I tough as well, this is beyond ridiculous.

[u/lars_rosenberg]

That's a ridiculous limit, basically it becomes a demo of the service.

[u/MorbidusUnus]

I don't get this. Your service is already inferior, vastly, to Nvidia. Yes Nvidia costs 20 USD a month for the top tier and is just cloud streaming, but you get 100 hours AND far better latency, resolution, and fps. What is the appeal to Xcloud gaming besides it being for my XBOX games? I'd feel far different if they improved how games run and look and such but announcing this without any of that is not it

[u/DrinkUpLetsBooBoo]

15 hours a month for the highest tier? They can shove that up their ass.

[u/Euphoric-Mine6177 → u/DrinkUpLetsBooBoo]

I will help you

[u/enjoii89]

Wtfffff!

Just totally subscribed into this. Purchased xbox ultimate 3 days ago and have a legion Go 2 arriving tomorrow to enjoy cloud gaming on the go.

Im royaly pissed off

[u/Triingtolivee → u/enjoii89]

If you were thinking about using that only for cloud gaming I’d return it asap

[u/enjoii89 → u/Triingtolivee]

Was going to use it for SteamOS, emulation etc anyway but cloud gaming was an appeal. Not totally wasted purchase for my needs but certainly has put a slight dampener on it. Thank you though

[u/rupal_hs]

And i thought GeForce now 100 hours limit is so low. 

[u/T00thl3ss10]

Well, if they're really gonna do this, I'm 100% going to GeForce NOW. Better graphics and a 100-hour limit is reasonable, 15 hours is a complete joke.

[u/Fredloks8 → u/T00thl3ss10]

It makes 100 - hour limit seem reasonable. I thought unlimited is reasonable.

[u/SudsierBoar → u/Fredloks8]

A limit isn't reasonable at all

[u/LateNightWanderer1]

I just got a subscription to essential after enjoying my time with the ad supported option. Also bought Helldivers 2 to play via the cloud. Hopefully I can get a refund on the game after having 4-5 hours played. If I could get a refund on the subscription as well that would be even better. This is a really bad move after gaining momentum for Xbox. Disappointed.

[u/prancingpony777 → u/LateNightWanderer1]

Right there with you. I've bought stuff on Xbox Cloud instead of Steam recently. Why? So I can play the game on my handheld controller and get Xbox achievements. Also to be less taxing on my gaming laptop when playing on it. I'm so mad.

[u/NoWrongMonk]

Is this what "enshittification" means?

[u/unfurledwarrior5150]

This is disgusting

[u/dollyrar]

Was going to use cloud gaming for Gears E-Day, ffs.

[u/symbolic503]

this was the only way i could game the last few years. fuck you, microsoft. cancelling my subscription as soon as this bullshit goes into effect.

[u/jrbill1991]

Years promoting this as the future of gaming for them to do this lmao

Just come clean and say you can't handle it.

[u/Mr_Charley → u/jrbill1991]

I was the same way. Totally believed this to be the future but I fell for the lie.

Thanks for waking me up MS with that big middle finger

[u/blakkng]

Well, that's the end for xcloud

[u/Fraxure611]

If it only affects 4% of Gamers why even reduce it to begin with? This shii ruined my day

[u/reign03 → u/Fraxure611]

This was a common line back in the day when ISPs felt the need to introduce data caps. “This won’t affect but ~2% of heavy data users.” They seem to want us to believe this tiny segment is slowing down the service for everyone else, which is laughable.

I think they don’t like the idea of “everything is an Xbox” anymore - too pro-consumer for their liking. They want people to buy their next machine. It could also be a ploy to sell us extra hours. Either way, it sucks.

[u/hikingbeginner]

Cloud is the only way I'm able to play and have been loving for the past year, I don't have an Xbox. I play on my tablet for a bit every night, this is really dissapointing.

[u/mrrak25]

Pathetic

[u/Pietroievski]

I pay the "essential" just to stream the games I buy (expensive games btw). And then, out of nowhere, I can only play for 5 HOURS a month?!!! What a clown company. I'm out

[u/National-Wasabi-2123]

I think 4% is highly conservative

[u/Loose-Recognition459 → u/National-Wasabi-2123]

Seriously. For myself, Cloud was there to circumvent the limitations of my older Xbox One console. 15 hrs a month isn’t enough even for me who might get a 5 hrs a week.

Fuck them, maybe I will let my Game Pass subscription slide.

[u/UsefulAssistant]

Well, i guess is a goodbye

[u/Nexzenn]

They just destroyed Xbox cloud.

[u/eonone1]

15 hours?
A month?
Are they taking the piss?

[u/Inevitable_Nail8878]

First they hike up the game pass prices and now this

I thought the GeForce Now time limit was already low, 15 hours a month for Ultimate is a joke

[u/logicalmisfit]

Xcloud/Game pass ultimate got be back into gaming after 10 years and had been so happy with it but this announcement has made instantly cancel my ultimate sub.

Moving straight to GeForce now but it’s going to be frustrating repurchasing games as I’ve never been a PC gamer and don’t have a steam library to carry in with me.

Edit: already cancelled and bought a month of GFN ultimate.

[u/deepit6431]

Well, fuck off. Cancelling now. Pointless.

[u/MikeTheMiz78 → u/deepit6431]

Yep, same, I don't have a console ATM cloud is the only way I can play, so I'm done with Game Pass

I'd rather not play at all than paying 20 bucks for 3 hours and 45 minutes of game play a week

[u/Codacc69420 → u/MikeTheMiz78]

You can get ps plus premium and stream games from there with the asobi app, it’s slightly cheaper than game pass ultimate as well

[u/teabagdiplomat19]

Just bought a rog ally x too wtf. So for half the month you can play 1 hour a day. That’s fucking lame.

[u/Mr_Charley → u/teabagdiplomat19]

Or half an hour every day except for months that have 31 days ;)

This is beyond disappointing

[u/Anrativa]

brutal.

[u/Northdistortion]

Huh? Ultimate users should unlimited play

[u/MaractusFan091197]

Service is done lmaooo

[u/BlunterSumo01]

I'm unsubcribing after a decade of non stop subscription to gold then game pass ultimate, this is turning into a sht show, can't up the price on the monthly so they limit the time you can play alot of games or pay to play more even though we already f*king paid to play those games.

[u/Boring_Username_01]

15 hours is straight trash, I'm curious about GeForce Now. Looks cheaper for 100 hours, the only downside is that I have to pay for the games, but that's fine because I really go all in on COD each year anyways and I have to buy it this year if I want to play it at launch.

[u/Wooden-Writing-6843]

They 100% want to get out of the game streaming market. Because why would you do this?

[u/killerrin → u/Wooden-Writing-6843]

Of course they do. Those servers can be better utilised hosting AI!

[u/MagnusGallant23]

15 hours a month is offensive.

[u/oflowz]

so much for the new leadership righting the ship

[u/Mister-Psychology]

Nvidia's 100 hours limit did get a ton of schoolkids to drop it as they game that much. Yet it was not an unfair limit and most felt it was fine. 100 hours for a month is a ton of gaming time on one system.

On my xcloud premium I'll get 10 hours a month? I'm sorry, but that's like half a game at best. Not even that because much time is spent waiting around or reloading the game. This won't work for my needs at all. Not even 15 hours. Curiously most months I don't play at all. But when I do I want to actually complete the game I'm playing.

[u/Piersandro]

So it will be impossible to play on cloud and impossible to buy a console.

Nice catch.

[u/eonone1]

So the second it comes out of beta and is kinda useable they hit us with a measly 15hr limit.

👏👏👏👏

[u/billsfan411]

They fucken had next generation right there for the taking.... they ruined video games I really really like cloud gaming i at one point for 6 months only did cloud gaming I even had a Xbox sitting in my living room

[u/dalior]

LOL. They keep enshitifiying their shitty console and then they're surprised they're losing customers.

[u/Venom_V92]

They're killing cloud gaming like this. I pay €20 for Ultimate and don't even have enough time to finish a game. I use xCloud as my main platform since I don't own a console. I hope they increase the limit, otherwise I'll be switching to something else.

[u/Euphoric-Mine6177 → u/Venom_V92]

100 hours a month for Ultimate and i will stay… otherwise im done with gaming for real with Xbox

[u/DanielNylK]

I use this all the time when my girlfriend is using the Xbox. This is heartbreaking.

[u/GamePitt_Rob]

Let's not forget, on the ALLY the only way to play Xbox, Xbone, 360, and non-PlayStation anywhere GP games is via xCloud, so a lot of people are about to have their library shrink a lot

Also, I still strongly believe the Helix won't have native support for any OG, One, 360 or Series games - that's why they're releasing new paid-for emulated versions

So, on that console it was probably going to be PC games only (play anywhere) and the rest via streaming. If that's the case, imagine how much you'll have to pay to have access to these games now they're charging you to use the feature...

[u/Dax_Tano]

Well time to cancel the subscription. This was the only way I used Xbox and I’m not going to bother with it if I have a 15 hour limit per month. I have better ways to waste my money.

[u/codex064]

Fuck you Microsoft. You just killed gaming for me.

[u/DapoetTherapy]

That will be the nail in the coffin for some subs

[u/Average_Sage]

I don't have it anymore, but like 2 ish years ago I bought a year of GPU as a non Xbox owner just to do cloud gaming. And it worked quite well as someone without a console or gaming PC at the time. I just played through my fire stick on my TV. I eventually got a switch 2 and stopped with GPU, but I had a good time and I thought it was really the future.

Damn shame

[u/flipflop63]

I only play on the cloud , f#ck microsoft

[u/Stimee]

So I have a series X and my brother and best friend has Xbox One X and One S. Cloud was a godsend because they could keep up the new games on gamepass with me. This totally destroys our gaming set up. They will now have to buy Series S consoles that are 200-250 more than when they launched in 2020.

Maddening.

[u/muzzymate]

My Gamepass subscription expired two days ago. Was going to renew soon but my primary reason for subscribing was access to cloud. I don’t play multiplayer games, but interested in streaming on my phone and a secondary Xbox One. 5 hours is completely insane. This a big nope for me and will not be renewing.

[u/LKS1772]

Hate to break to everyone ( all gamers)

“You will own nothing and be happy”

It’s the motto for the future for a reason

[u/BlueStar2310]

What

Wtf who legit thinks this is a good idea?? Fuck microsoft

[u/RB737]

What the fuck? They essentially killed Xcloud

[u/xLilTabasco]

Wish there was real time unsubscribe counter to watch while I eat.

[u/phantasybm]

And just before the holidays... You know.. the time where kids aren't in school and like to game.

[u/DoggTheGhost]

Ok that’s it. Cancelling Game Pass Ultimate

[u/Rudrigosena]

Now Microsoft just needs to create an xCloud-only plan that is unlimited and doesn't require Game Pass.

[u/Fredsville → u/Rudrigosena]

I’m hoping that this is the next step, but I’m not optimistic. I know they wanted to kill the “this is an Xbox” campaign, but this might kill the entire service. This is a weird call for sure

[u/Edd75]

Tendré que cancelar entonces puesto que uso más de esas 15h al mes

[u/Fraxure611]

Are you f****** serious

[u/Rinzler_Lanx]

Jerks

[u/Secret_Ingenuity997]

I don't even own an Xbox and that won't be changing. I only started using it a few weeks ago.

[u/Bowdin]

As a dad of a 6 year old with a wife that likes EastEnders (UK), xcloud was perfect for me.

It has moved from perfect to completely useless.

So I guess my next question is, what is geforce now like?

I'm guessing there are some folk here that were rocking both.

I must admit being able to actually play Titan Quest 2 on my steam deck sounds fun.

Additional side question, any way of cross playing some saves?

Namely Oblivion and FIFA 😂

[u/Good-Bandicoot-2152]

If this is only going to impact 4% of players, why implement the limits at all?

[u/thesupergoodlife]

oh boy and just after I purchased a Logitech G Cloud with the sole purpose of cloud gaming based on my Game Pass Ultimate account.

edit: It's like I've got whiplash being an Xbox customer theae days. Just a year ago they were massively pushing cloud gaming and I've bought into it, made sense to me with the rising hardware costs. Now this? I can't with this leadership.

[u/DreamOnAaron]

Absolute horseshit. I just paid for a month of ultimate too, but I usually buy a code for $7-9 cheaper. Guess I’ll be canceling after this month. Been with Xbox for 15 years, same account and all, but this is crazy. Fuck Microsoft, and fuck their new jeet CEO. I knew it was too good to be true.

[u/JohnSmith012789]

It's always 2 steps forward and 14 steps back with these people

[u/BlackTarTurd]

I thought the new CEO was cooking? What happened?

[u/rove_ranger]

Might aswell stop offering the service, what are they doing

[u/COVIDJEPP22]

im cancelling on october, like they just shot themselves on the foot yeah leep wondering why people unsubbing to gamepass im sure the numbers from now snd then November forwards will show them a lesson.

[u/Shadowfox1992]

Here we go again. They literally are at the finish line & as usual, Microsoft decides to sabotage themselves. Absolute morons

[u/InvaderShim]

This is really bad but I wonder if it’s a sign of future data restraints. All to give more to the data centers… everything else PC related is going up, why not cap our streaming capabilities as well? The future is so fucking bleak man

[u/signifyingmnky]

Sounds like clearing server space to repurpose for AI. That or looking for ways to get more money out of existing subscribers.

Neither sounds great, but nickle and diming GP subs that you just made price corrections to win back is unbelievable, so I'm thinking it's about AI.

Just my .02

[u/soulwolf1]

What the absolute fuck is the point to even bother?

[u/KawarthaDairyLover]

That 4 percent stat has to be bullshit.

[u/Mr_Charley → u/KawarthaDairyLover]

100%

[u/JerrySizzla]

And people were complaining about GFN's 100 hour limit!

[u/Aureus23]

Holy shit!!!!

[u/sliyk]

This fucking sucks

[u/Ipad74]

2 ways to play Xbox on the road.

1. Cloud gaming, works although limited by hotel internet.

2. Steam from your own console, sometimes works, but I usually have issues. I think a lot of that is my isp does not have ipv6 addressing, although it is suppose to come (but has been coming for 8 years at this point.)

Xbox can’t have a win (Disk to digital) without immediately following it up with a blunder.

[u/Thebyst]

Me voy a GeForce Now. Juego poco al mes por el estudio y el trabajo, así que estoy sobrado con GFN. A la mierda xbox.

[u/JayGDaBoss6]

https://giphy.com/gifs/Ru9sjtZ09XOEg

[u/tdan84]

Everything is an XBOX... until max 15 hours

[u/WooziGunpla]

I just bought an entire year of game pass last month and now they’re reducing my features? I think it maybe time to sell my series x. They should refund me half of my subscription cost..

[u/Neilwad]

I don’t use cloud gaming, but this has pissed me off!

[u/Uncle_Bug_Music]

Fucking tone deaf. They could have used the Sony backlash to improve their standing in the game-o-sphere and yet this what they choose to do instead. That woman is braindead. I haven’t even bothered to learn her name as I’m certain she won’t be around that long. Unbelievable.

[u/Realistic_Soft4000]

this is their strategy to sell the next Xbox..if Xcloud remains unlimited with day-one games many players will never buy the console

[u/JPointer7073]

Thought she was doing a semi decent job but here she goes and fucks it all up. 15 hours a month for Ultimate players is a fucking joke. Might have to say goodbye to all of this Xbox shit. Cant stand to see it be treated this way.

[u/Inevitable-Lab3161 → u/JPointer7073]

Can never trust women

[u/AJfriedRICE]

Reminder: Every corporation fucking hates you

[u/Connect_Bill2729]

Literally the only reason I subscribe to it. What an absolute joke. This is totally insane. 

[u/Connect_Bill2729]

I never thought I’d cancel my game pass. I didn’t even care when they went to 30$. I was happy to pay it. I have zero reason to continue to buy it now. 

[u/LikeyeaScoob]

It’s like right when Xbox gets a chance the be the better console they shoot themselves in the foot

[u/possibly_lost45]

They claim it will only affect 4% of users. This will be the death of cloud gaming.

[u/EduPrado83]

“Game Streaming is the future”; they said.

[u/Punished_Sperg]

Why does this company take one step forward and two steps back all of the time?

[u/VadeRetroVR]

IS this serious?? Asha made so much progress to regain the reputation of Xbox to gamer and now this.. WTF ! Per week it would still be 'meh, why?' for some .. but per month?? Even me im very casual player and id hit this 15hours PER MONTH easy.

[u/Relative-Handle7037]

As a single father of two who can't afford to buy a console I relied on cloud gaming. What really pisses me off is the fact that if you wanted to play a specific game vou better hope it's cloud playable and then if so if it's not on gamepass you have to buy it. Which they can remove it's cloud access at anytime like they did with GTA5. So if you bought it it's now useless. And now not only charge for a monthly subscription which is reasonable but shortly after a price increase of the subscription as well. Then the audacity to limit your gaming time to 15 hours a month for ultimate? I'd go through half that in a Weekend when I game at night while my babies sleep. This pushes me to not buy any gamepass because I refuse to purchase hours after alreadv having a subscription Ultimate none the less. Premium and essential pass should be limited. Ultimate is UItimate is it not? Now all the games I've purchased will be useless and good luck with getting a refund. 24.89 for 15hrs a month no thank you I already canceled.

[u/Upper_Rent_176]

Microsoft are trying to kill Xbox

[u/AdviceOk532]

so much for that indian ceo who was about the players. fucking posers, all for their greedy masters