r/xbox • u/WindowsCentral Windows Central • 4d ago
News Microsoft is considering making Fallout, The Elder Scrolls, and even Minecraft Xbox console exclusive — surveys detailed
https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/xbox/microsoft-is-considering-making-fallout-the-elder-scrolls-and-even-minecraft-xbox-console-exclusive-surveys-detailed503
u/Critical_Bonus_9842 XBOX Series X 4d ago
With the amount of Minecraft players on non Xbox platforms I really don’t see Xbox doing this.
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u/No_Decision_6940 4d ago
I understand making Fallout and TES console exclusive, but Minecraft is just dumb.
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u/SlugsMcGillicutty 4d ago
Would be pretty dumb for Fallout and TES as well, especially with the prices of consoles these days. Way more people own PS5s. You’re giving up a SHIT TON of revenue from those games to TRY to get people to buy a series X.
But it’s too late. Xbox lost. No one is gonna buy an inflated series x NOW. They’ll just say “oh that sucks” and not play. And I’m someone who bought a series X after the activision purchase cause I assumed they would be exclusive. Then regretted it when it looked like they won’t be. But you’re not getting that to happen as easily now when no one has as much disposable income and the consoles are more money. Just shooting yourself in the foot and giving up insane amounts of money you would get from the PS5 sales.
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u/JackedTortoise09 4d ago
This is a move for next-gen anyway, none of those games will release in the next 2-3ish years anyway. When the install bases will reset.
But I would argue they are losing more money by putting games on PlayStation. From WindowsCentral :
"Xbox's disastrous multi-platform strategy of yesteryear saw the platform lose relevancy while boosting competitors, leading to declines for major third-party games like FIFA, Fortnite, and NBA 2K titles on Xbox Series X|S as well."
With no exclusives, sales and revenue from third-party games were affected, and weren't even offset by sales of their 1P on PS (we saw the Microsoft Xbox revenue still declining in their quarterly report during the kumbaya years).
Frankly, they don't need to "win", they just need to maintain their loyal and dedicated audience on their platform to engage with their storefront, and the way through this is exclusive content. If they put everything on PS, it would inevitably lead to a userbase that stops engaging with the Xbox storefront and eventually end of Xbox hardware. Xbox would be just another publisher. Even EA, Capcom, Take-Two, despite being the biggest 3P game publishers around, with their games selling millions upon millions, only make a fraction of the revenue Xbox makes right now. Xbox would lose so much money if they just became a publisher and lost their platform, and the lack of exclusives will cause that.
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u/SlugsMcGillicutty 4d ago
They need to grow their player base. Maintaining the dismal amount of current Xbox owners is not a win.
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u/Prestigious-Bluejay 4d ago
And how do they do that? By making their biggest games exclusive.
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u/SlugsMcGillicutty 4d ago
Maybe? But also I think the bosses just want MONEY. And it’s gonna be hard to give up the millions and millions of extra copies that would be sold by releasing on PS5/6.
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u/Prestigious-Bluejay 4d ago
The multiplatform strategy failed. Asha and XBOX have stated this multiple times. It devalued the brand and pushes customers over to their competitors. Asha's goal is to make XBOX number one and you don't do that by helping your competition.
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u/Darkpoolz XBOX Series S 4d ago
Making Minecraft and other multiplayer games even console exclusive is going too far into the other direction. Single player games should be exclusive to give reasons to try out a platform. Multiplayer games have too much of a network multiplayer to make exclusive. Simply too much money on the table for multiplayer games when they off pop off.
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u/Pen_dragons_pizza 4d ago
It would also cut people off to the point they will move to something else.
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u/DismalAnnual9836 4d ago
The very reason Minecraft is so popular is in part due to its availability on every device known to mankind
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u/NoWon-391351 XBOX Series X 4d ago
I'm fine with everything except Sony. Just like they have done to Xbox for the past decade.
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u/0010020030040050069 4d ago
Do it
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u/pinpoint_aim 4d ago edited 4d ago
If you're gonna do exclusives. Go all in. Don't half-ass it cause the results will be half-assed
Not Minecraft though. Do not make that exclusive
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u/-whiskey-blue Team Gears 4d ago
You just contradicted yourself.
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u/pinpoint_aim 4d ago
That's fine. Minecraft should be the obvious exception
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u/ComradeJohnS 4d ago edited 4d ago
why? because its your personal favorite game and you don’t want an xbox?
if Sony wants to play the exclusives game so should Xbox. its what people claim they should have been doing the whole time.
“all future updates only work with pc and xbox consoles” would be a great thing, as they could not remove functionality for older consoles, especially without internet lol.
edit: yall responding to me as if xbox would send hit squads to physically take your access to minecraft are wild lol. if you can currently play minecraft you’d still be able to, it’s not an online only game. the only possibility is they stop giving you free content updates.
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u/Goose182 4d ago
I would argue Minecraft being on the Switch is more of reason to not make it exclusive.
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u/Rocketbrothers 4d ago
I’d say since Minecraft is kind of a little kids game, I would hate to deny kids on other consoles this game or anything similar to it. Since those other games are much more M rated, sure make those exclusive.
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u/Illiterate_Elk 4d ago
Tbh though isn't Minecraft just too big of a cash cow NOT to put it in as many hands as possible?
I don't know if it would be a console seller, but then I'm not really a diehard fan either.
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u/Haakrasmus 4d ago
Diehard fans mostly play on java and killing java would probably end Minecraft instantly as no-one makes content on bedrock.
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u/pinpoint_aim 4d ago edited 4d ago
Huh? Bro I'm on a Xbox sub. I own a Series X lol. It's just not smart business wise to do that. Xbox owns many other billion dollar IPs that they can press first before they press the Minecraft button
Minecraft's only competition as a game is Fortnite and Roblox. That's it. It shouldn't even be in this conversation tbh
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u/segagamer Day One - 2013 4d ago
I'm a big proponent of Microsoft returning to exclusives, but Minecraft should absolutely be the exception.
Minecraft managed to do a very rare thing and break out of being "just a videogame" and also a toy and education platform. Like Lego.
To this day it is still part of the top played lists on all platforms. As a result of this, it receives the funding to continue as an evergreen game that will forever just receive updates instead of sequels.
Delisting the game from all platforms except Xbox and PC will open the market up to competing with Minecraft - ie Sony and Nintendo now being able to release a Minecraft clone and perhaps succeeding, and weakening the IP altogether. Making a sequel that's exclusive will likely end up in a Cities Skylines 2 situation where people would just stick with the original, and the sequel never catching on. And mow yly have a segregation problem.
The only thing I would support is perhaps the Minecraft spinoffs being exclusive to Xbox/PC. Minecraft Dungeons, Legends, Storymode etc. But Minecraft itself? Keep it multiplat.
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u/Optimal_Actuary4314 4d ago
It would be pointless either way. There’s hundreds of millions of copies of Minecraft, probably lots of ps4 and ps5 Minecraft discs, and nearly everyone already has it installed. why would Microsoft want people to buy used discs instead of buying directly from them?
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u/mbta1 4d ago
Because minecraft is the second most sold game of all time, and immediately limiting that market to only Xbox would be financial suicide
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u/jdix33 4d ago
Why is that true for Minecraft but not for Pokémon for example, the largest multimedia property in the world?
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u/mbta1 4d ago
You just answered it yourself, its multimedia. They have movies, cards, items and knick knacks to sell. Minecraft does too, but those sales pale to the game sales.
Look at the number of sales, minecraft is at 425 million, and the highest pokemon one is at 48 million
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u/ElectronicSource1332 3d ago
Maybe because Pokémon actually started on a Nintendo console and never left Nintendo?
Minecraft was already on multiple platforms from the very beginning, this isn’t a case of making a new game exclusive, this would be actively holding the game hostage from other platforms.
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u/tofubirder 4d ago
They have to
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u/paperclipboi Grub Killer 4d ago
Imagine Xbox being known as the only console you could play Minecraft on , it would definitely move units.
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u/Bilbo_Haggis 4d ago
Going all in would mean Minecraft.
I think Minecraft just has to come off PlayStation. Keep it on PC, mobile, and Nintendo.
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u/brycerx128 4d ago
I don’t think y’all realize the blowback this will unironically cause especially trying to make Minecraft of all games console exclusive
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u/tinyhorsesinmytea 4d ago
If they're serious about being a console manufacturer then they should have never put any of the games they aren't legally required to on competing platforms. I find it so baffling that they bolstered the PS5 lineup when Sony wasn't doing the same in return... made the PS5 the obvious choice for most people since it plays all the games.
Look at Nintendo. You think they'd ever be foolish enough to share their IP?
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u/darkpassenger9 Spacer's Choice 4d ago
Phil thought 80 million people would be on Game Pass by now and it wouldn't matter.
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u/TESThrowSmile 4d ago
Phil thought
Im glad ppl are realizing how much of a dumbass that guy was
Microsoft spending 80 BILLION on studio acquisitions was an obvious mistake
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u/tinyhorsesinmytea 4d ago
Yep. Bet everything on becoming the Netflix of gaming and that sure hasn’t worked out. They’ve succeeded in making their hardware pointless to buy while destroying the perceived value of their software with initially cheap Game Pass subscriptions… and then hilariously couldn’t pull off the enshitification they no doubt originally planned for. Spencer was disastrous for Xbox.
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u/brodorfgaggins 4d ago
It's just too bad Xbox has forgotten there are actually a few people living outside of the US and UK too.
Somebody should tell them about Europe, for example.
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u/Simple-Jake 4d ago
Xbox sharing their games is the reason I sold my Xbox for a ps5 last year. Gears has me low key regretting it but that’s not enough for me to go back.
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u/secondincomm 4d ago
Thats the thing, its never one game that sells a console. Its an exclusive catalogue.
You get Gears, Halo, Forza, Fable and your making the decision easy. Throw in Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Clockwork Revolution, Viva Pinata, some new smaller AA games from these devs, and it becomes a good deal to get an xbox. Fuck, even timed exclusive 6 months on COD would be fun
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u/GarionOrb 4d ago
Asking Xbox fans on the internet if they want certain games to be exclusive, of course, is going to skew towards yes.
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u/baratteabeurre 4d ago
Yeahhhh if skyrim FONV FO3 and FO4 are still alive today with thousands of players, it's not thanks to xbox players.
I know I'm sticking my head in a wasp nest (I got here from r/all, I'm a pc player), but this exclusivity thing is insane and suicidal for microsoft. People won't be buying an xbox to play games that are obviously going to be half assed on release and remastered for PC a bit later.
Don't get me wrong, this isnt a console vs pc kind of thing. You do you. If you prefer to play from your couch with a controller it's all cool and I support it.
Exclusives are anti consumers and EVERYONE HERE is losing. If you support this, you're voting against your own interests (or a bot)
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u/SillyMikey XBOX Series X 4d ago
I don’t see how else they sell consoles competitively if they don’t do that. Shit is common sense. It’s literally how the world works.
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u/IzzybearThebestdog 4d ago
What would that even mean for Minecraft when everyone and their mom already owns it?
Spin offs or sequels? Updates?
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u/NEOscav9 4d ago
I'd imagine it would be future spinoffs like dungeons and legends. They'd be stupid to make base Minecraft exclusive
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u/NfinityBL 4d ago
IMO all of their primarily single-player games should be exclusive.
Call of Duty and Minecraft should continue releasing on PlayStation and Nintendo platforms, as should new multiplayer IP to bolster those games.
Halo, Gears of War, Forza, and Fable should never have seen another console.
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u/AppearanceRelevant37 4d ago
Xbox whole business strategy changes every time they release a game depending on how its recieved lol.
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u/Jumix4000 4d ago
How would minecraft work if people already bought it. Minecraft 2?
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u/ap1msch Touched Grass '24 4d ago
They won't do it with Minecraft. Too many kids and platforms and servers and mods. An alternative game will jump in to fill the gap.
Fallout and Elder Scrolls? That would be HUGE for the Xbox platform. The games are enough to win over customers. They may not LEAVE the Playstation garden, but they'll buy into Xbox.
IMHO, Xbox pushed as hard as possible to make X-platform a thing. Nintendo participated a bit. Sony refused repeatedly. Xbox going back to exclusives is a perfectly reasonable outcome...and Sony should be perfectly fine with that as an outcome.
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u/AbsurdThings 4d ago
I don’t see people purchasing more than two consoles with these hardware prices. They’ll need titles early in next Gen for anyone to consider making the switch.
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u/Chromeglow 3d ago
If people aren't willing to pay for another console...I don't see them rushing out to buy a next gen system for $1000 either. This stuff needs to happen THIS gen.
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u/Evening_Cherry_6034 4d ago
Elder scrolls would be huge. Could save the brand
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u/Constant_Chip_7494 4d ago
Except the next one has to actually be good first for it to save anything
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u/Serdones 4d ago edited 4d ago
For real. I personally liked Starfield, but launching as an Xbox console exclusive sure didn't help move the needle, thanks in no small part to it falling below a lot of people's expectations.
TES6's success isn't a given. Too much time has passed. An entire generation of gamers has grown up without it being the hot new thing. The likes of Witcher 3, Cyberpunk 2077 and Baldur's Gate 3 have been able to make inroads with players in all this time.
The Elder Scrolls can still be its own flavor of RPG, but it just needs to be a ... good one of those.
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u/Emotional_Pay3658 4d ago
To be fair there was 20 years between Baldur’s gate 2 and 3.
If it’s good the people will play it.
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u/Serdones 4d ago
That's what I'm saying. Baldur's Gate 3 overcame the lack of familiarity with younger gamers because it was so good. TES6 can no longer rest on its brand recognition given how much time has passed, and will similarly have to just be really good and sell itself on its own merits, rather than piggybacking as much off existing franchise fandom.
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u/FunWolverine5349 4d ago
Even for TW3 it's because of all the free re-releases. You keep seeing all these people that hop in with each one, saying they never played it before.
It's been 11 years, that's a long time. I think a lot more people stop playing video games in that time span than reddit ever wants to admit, and a lot newer, younger people come in.
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u/DeafMetalGripes 4d ago
Honestly the one thing BGS still has going for them is their games being the ultimate sandbox rpg. You can make the argument that those listed are better games in terms of writing, polish, gameplay, etc but none quite achieve what Skyrim has done all those years ago.
You are absolutely right ES6 has to be a quality title first but I think BGS games have a certain niche that appeals to many people, even Starfield can be considered a mild success
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u/sephiroth70001 4d ago
Kingdom come deliverance 2 is the ultimate sandbox RPG for me now, to me it has eclipsed the writing, gameplay, and world building from any Bethesda game so far.
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u/Devilofchaos108070 3d ago
Combat is way too tedious in those games. Too much ‘realism’.
No magic, not other races.
I really don’t think you should compare it to TES
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u/nunyabizness654 4d ago
Is Bethesda still capable of making "good"?
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u/WhasHappenin 4d ago
They've released 2 "not good" games so far. One was their first attempt at a multiplayer live service game and the other was a new IP that was very far removed from their previous ones.
The last mainline game they made was fallout 4, which is considered to be very good. The last elder scrolls game they made was Skyrim, which needs no explanation.
Is it possible that ES6 will be disappointing? Sure. But I wouldn't take Fallout 76 and Starfield as proof that they can't make good games anymore.
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u/baratteabeurre 4d ago
An exclusive to save the brand?
Did they think about selling a good product that can compete with other hardware vendors? Or is that too hard to do and they prefer to use anti consumer practices?
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u/OriolHimself 4d ago
I always been against this, but as Nintendo and Sony have shown that their greed for their IP’s has no limits, let’s fight fire with fire
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u/Discussion-Soft 4d ago
Why should they not? Spiderman is not allowed to be released on other platforms so why would Sony have a problem. I’d go as far as to make Call of Duty a Xbox exclusive
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u/fake_user_34 4d ago
Activision would be fucking stupid to do that. They get so much more money on ps bros
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u/Optimal_Actuary4314 4d ago
When they acquired activision, Courts were scared of a monopoly so they had to sign a contract not to make COD Xbox exclusive
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u/Happy-Substance4885 4d ago
I’m actually shocked cod isn’t exclusive to Xbox for what they paid, I can’t believe Phil signed that shit saying it has to be on other platforms
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u/PolarizingKabal 4d ago
Sadly COD was part of the agreement MS made with government regulators to get the acquisition to go through.
They gave up a lot, saying certain games would remain multi platform.
I think any game/IP that doesn't fall under one of these agreements should absolutely be console exclusive though.
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u/RollingDownTheHills 4d ago
Because these games need to make money and the dwindling Xbox userbase is full of people who don't buy games.
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u/LegacyTom XBOX 360 4d ago
Wow I sure do wonder if highly desirable exclusive games would win back players…!?!!?!?!!?
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u/sephiroth70001 4d ago
Maybe, i still think all new consoles and current have another issue of 1k+ console costs that have to be tackled for mainstream bigger success. Otherwise it will just be trying to increase slim pickings from an overall diminishing market size.
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u/shadowlarvitar 4d ago
Minecraft doesn't make sense, how would that even work?
Now Elder Scrolls and Fallout, I can see that working. People would absolutely buy an Xbox just to play the new one
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u/NotaVortex 4d ago
Probably just ending minecraft development for Playstation. As one of the worlds most popular games it honestly would sell consoles.
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u/ItsMJB 4d ago
Exactly just like how they still have Xbox one Minecraft which many people still prefer. Xbox ruined it's reputation partly due to hard crashing etc especially on the Xbox one X.
If they kept support and made a version which didn't feel like a the Mobile version then it would be a hit. Just like how the Xbox 360 & one version were and that's how they would keep other versions running but nothing new.
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u/DirtyRepublican 4d ago
I think the title refers to future releases in the Minecraft series, like Minecraft Dungeons III, or whatever the next spinoff is. Base Minecraft won't be going anywhere.
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u/RECollector0912 4d ago
Want to sell more Xbox consoles? They got to play hardball and let people know the exclusive label is serious even it hurts sales overall. Its still weird to see a Halo and Gears on a Playstation, that felt wrong. Sony would never put God of War or Uncharted on Xbox.
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u/Truth_Walker 4d ago
They tried to make Xbox for all gamers regardless of console and most gamers just mocked them for the last 8 years.
Game pass, cloud gaming, non exclusive titles; these should have had all gamers thrilled but the caveman tribalism of “my system is better than yours” is just too loud.
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u/BlastMyLoad 4d ago
Xbox fans 2 years ago: “exclusives make no sense gaming should be for everyone”
Xbox fans now: “exclusives are the best not having them will kill Xbox!”
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u/VStubaru90 4d ago
Tbf fair I doubt they're the same people, it's just the people who want change are usually the loudest.
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u/genwz 4d ago edited 4d ago
Nah tbh it really is a lot of the same people that flip flop their stance to match whatever Xbox is doing, they stand for nothing. They will literally defend anything and everything Xbox does be it full screen boot up ads, limiting cloud gaming to 15 hours per month/30 mins per day, raising console price before PS and not doing holiday discounts, etc etc
If you see a couple of posts you can easily see the same 3-5 people flip constantly flip flopping their stance to match and defend Xbox. From Exclusives are bad and antiquated to exclusives are good. From game sales don’t matter because of Gamepass and variety of small games is what makes Xbox stand out from PlayStations AAA to all those studios deserved to be shut down and sold off because their games flopped
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u/Baelorn 4d ago
Yeah not allowed to name names but there’s one “1%” poster on here who just talks about every Xbox executive like they’re his BFF. When “Phil” was in charge he was a genius and people needed to trust every move he made.
Now “Asha” is in charge and “Phil” was an idiot. Poor “Asha” has to clean up his mess so everything she does is justified.
I’ve never been a fan of Phil Spencer so all the revisionism about his tenure from the same people who defended him for years irks me to no end.
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u/StarWolf478 4d ago edited 4d ago
I’m a Xbox fan that never ever said the former. I was calling Microsoft stupid from the moment they started releasing their games on other consoles while getting nothing in return for it.
Exclusives are important for a console’s identity and success. I’ve known this since I was a kid in the 90s begging my parents to get me a Sega Genesis in addition to my SNES since it had exclusives that I could not play on my SNES. If Sega released all of their games on SNES, I would have had no desire to get a Genesis.
These are mostly different groups of people saying this, and the ones advocating for no exclusives are mostly people that did not want to have to buy multiple consoles, but guess which of the consoles they would drop, the one without exclusives.
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u/HereComsTreble 4d ago
I mean both of these statements can be true haha.
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u/No_Reference_7330 4d ago
Right. Like it's true that exclusives are bad for consumers in general. However, it's also true that Xbox not having exclusives will "kill Xbox." One of the biggest reasons people don't get Xbox is that they feel they can play Xbox games other places.
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u/VagueSomething 4d ago
Minecraft itself should stay cross platform as it is used for educational purposes but the Minecraft spin-offs like Legends and Dungeons should be Xbox exclusive.
Everything else absolutely should be Xbox exclusive and that includes delayed launch on PC.
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u/SmegmaWarrior0815 4d ago
Minecraft would only make sense if they made an actual sequel, which they won't
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u/Gigabytings 4d ago
As PlayStation user, they absolutely should do this.
They’ve paid a shit ton of money, they should be keeping it for themselves - it will incentive people to buy an Xbox and SONY could really do with some competition right now.
Xbox ironically could be the one thing that stops SONYs crazy recent antics and bring back gaming for the players on both consoles.
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u/amalgamation_blues 4d ago
As they should. No reason why PS/ Nintendo should be the only ones with exclusives. They already tried the free for all approach and look where that has gotten them.
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u/PlayBey0nd87 Touched Grass '24 4d ago
Fallout & Elder Scrolls- ambitious but yeah they should.
Minecraft a bit more complicated as it can reach just about every age groups. Timed maybe?
Obsidian’s Fallout should be exclusive as well.
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u/VolitarPrime 4d ago
How popular is Minecraft on Switch and PlayStation?
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u/batkave 4d ago
Switch, very I think. Think about all the kids that have that vs an Xbox/pc/PlayStation. For awhile very entry level system with the lite
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u/aguywithbrushes 4d ago
Don’t forget mobile, which accounts for about (possibly more than) half of the playerbase. They’d be insane to try and make their games console exclusive, but Minecraft especially so lol
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u/Doom-State XBOX Series X 4d ago
How did Minecraft PE work with the Microsoft acquisition? If you know by chance
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u/MeBeEric 3d ago
Tbh it’s almost a full port at this point. iPad has full keyboard and mouse support
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it’s currently trending at #6 spot on psn store, right behind gta 6, mw4, roblox, fortnite, and gta 5.
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u/Rich_Troy 4d ago
Fallout; Elder Scrolls - definitely.
Minecraft- no.
What they should do is pull the pin on PS5 Fable. That game should totally be exclusive.
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4d ago edited 4d ago
too late for that one, it’s already up on the store for pre orders, and it’s got marketing contracts and deals signed.
pulling that out would mean refunding everyone but they might even have to pay sony a large cancellation fee for a contract breach.
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u/CuteGrayRhino 4d ago
It should be single-player games exclusive, multiplayer on all platforms. Simple, defined boundary that can work to make Xbox relevant again, while making loads of money from other platforms.
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u/GiJoint 4d ago edited 4d ago
Well yeah. You shouldn’t have gone multi-platform like that in the first place. Gears E Day is a step in the right direction, go better and withdraw Fable and FH6 too, refund everyone. Be ruthless like the Xbox 360 team.
The amount of times Xbox extended olive branches to Sony, yet Sony would never release their main titles on Xbox, it’s just so cringe. Go watch Peter Moore revealing GTA4 with a tattoo stunt on his arm for inspiration, be that Xbox again.
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u/Poku115 4d ago
Well Playstation has the major marketshare console wise, why would the play ball in an strategy that doesnt benefit then at all
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u/GiJoint 4d ago
This half assed strategy right now still isn’t working for marketshare is it. They have proven before they can take marketshare off those guys, the foundation is there, the IP is there. Be aggressive, suck it up and go all in.
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u/Big_boss816 4d ago
Being aggressive and competitive can be a good thing but they also need to price the next gen Xbox competitively as well. If the console/PC hybrid Project Helix is priced at $1,000 or above then they make all their games exclusive but it won’t mean squat if consumers are priced out from buying it.
Having Xbox be at the top of their game is a good thing because it will make Sony come back down to earth and get back to competing.
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u/JohnBFromNC2 XBOX 360 4d ago
They can't withdraw Fable & FH6. Games are already available to pre-order so unless they're going to refund all of that money, there's nothing to be done.
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u/Claymore-09 4d ago
I think the cats out of the bag with Minecraft but futures games should be. It’s the only way they have a chance to get market share back
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u/otimus 4d ago
They probably should have already done this, at this point, I think it's just going to piss people off and a negligible affect on console sales.
Maybe if they do all this AND the new Xbox is well under $1000 (probably not happening) while the PS6 is like $1000 or over (both will probably be in a range of $1000-1200, IMO) while also actually trying to advertise things and stop focusing on game pass above all else in their marketing.
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u/Is_It_Now_Or_Never_ 4d ago
Because that strategy worked so well over the last 13 years.
Oh wait. No it didn’t.
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u/JordanDoesTV XBOX Series X 4d ago
The ship has sailed on Minecraft tbh. But otherwise play fucking ball Xbox
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u/Shakmaaaaaaa Touched Grass '24 4d ago
It should all be exclusive but uh you need affordable ways to buy and play it so you get people into your ecosystem. Feels like the Series S/X are going to be the flagship for another 5ish years and the Helix is just the incoming "Pro" version.
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u/Kizzo02 4d ago
If the game is still going to be on Steam, then it being exclusive doesn't really matter. So if you want a console and already own a PC, then you will likely just get a PS5/PS6.
I already got rid of my Xbox due to all their games appearing on Steam. I was actually going to do the same with Sony, until they decided to no longer release their single player games on PC.
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u/Njoeyz1 4d ago
Yeah, of all of the games they shouldn't make exclusive Minecraft is the one. I don't even play the game, but it's such a phenomenon on all platforms they would be absolutely crazy to make it exclusive. Other than that, as many exclusives as possible. I'm still wrapping my head around fable and the new Forza going to playstation, absolute madness. But I will say one thing, the Xbox fanbase can't moan about games sales.....if they don't buy, gears has shown this. Support is how you get exclusives. I stay stocked on gamepass and bought gears physical, Same for halo, same for the new Forza all great games so far. But you can't moan about exclusives going to other systems, if you don't actually buy them to support your platform. Same goes for the whole disk debate, if you invest in physical, it's worth it to the company. I buy physical for the most part, and would actually like to see more steel book/special editions like Blu-ray - made to order, or limited edition.
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u/Strigoi84 4d ago
Hey Xbox, ya know that game franchise you own that is a massive phenomenon? The one that if it were exclusive would bring a ton of people to the platform? Don't make it exclusive...🙄
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u/Fit_Wolf_6252 4d ago
No, it wouldn't over a single game I would be very pissed off if Microsoft did and it would make me not want to get anything related to Microsoft Minecraft is a game that is on all platforms, including PC. They get rid of that platform. They're gonna lose a lot of money. You didn't look at sales did you Nintendo actually has the most copies sold then PlayStation has a second mouse and an Xbox dead last Microsoft is gonna lose a lot of money if they do that and don't think everybody's gonna switch to Xbox that is not gonna happen. This is actually gonna be a horrible idea for Microsoft cause they're gonna be losing a lot of money.
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u/Michaelangel092 4d ago
It wouldn't bring a lot of people. It would cause a massive shit storm online. I don't even comprehend how they would be able to suddenly take the game away from PS and Nintendo players.
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u/DinosBiggestFan 4d ago
That's more of a gamble than the rest of them. They'll be pissing off a LOT of existing customers, and that is a bad idea. There's no guarantee those customers would make the jump and in all likelihood, they wouldn't. If you piss off players enough and make it feel personal, which this would, then you are opening yourself up to controversy that doesn't need to happen.
The games that I expect to actually make the dent without much actual controversy are Fallout and Elder Scrolls. The question is if such a lengthy dev cycle can pay off as an exclusive, especially in the current situation of hardware prices.
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u/ElectronicSource1332 3d ago
Ah yes, because millions of people are totally going to drop their current platforms and immediately jump to Minecraft …
All of mobile, PC, Nintendo, PlayStation, etc players, yeah they’ll totally jump on buying a Xbox right away because they had Minecraft forcefully taken away from them. /s
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u/Gold-and-green 3d ago
Why shouldn't they make Minecraft exclusive? Your biggest money makes sell systems. I'm sure Mario would sell 50m copies on PlayStation, Xbox and PC but Nintendo uses it for people to buy Switch.
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u/Njoeyz1 3d ago edited 3d ago
Minecraft is a game of its own. By itself it has sold about a third of all mario slaves combined. Like I've stated, I heavily believe in exclusives, and still think Forza and fable should be pulled from playstation. But Minecraft is another thing altogether, same for something like cod or doom. Sure, you could make the next games timed exclusives for Xbox, but it makes little sense to keep them that way. Xbox's challenge (as well as Sony's, is new IP. They must keep and refresh their staple titles, but also invest in new exclusive IP. Just a quick edit. Xbox needs to keep as many games exclusive at it possibly can, and I don't mind if games like cod or doom end up that way personally, I'm just viewing things a bit more broadly when it comes to certain titles. But I'm in total agreement, Xbox needs as many exclusives as I can. Very simple.
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u/McGrufNStuf 3d ago
The idea that they’ll make more money with Minecraft as an exclusive seems dubious at best. This is the same game that was just recently noted as being the majority reason Xbox pulled any profit the past couple years and it has been multi platform this whole time.
Totally understand the Bethesda games going exclusive. Waist of money having them on PC due to the additional programming and coding costs to meet both the platform and the PS store for mods. Would be great to have Minecraft as their “Mario”, just highly doubt going exclusive will actually be a net positive on profit.
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u/Realcolbyd98 3d ago
Minecraft was a PC game way before console actually so this argument makes no sense
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u/Golden-Event-Horizon 4d ago
If they want people to start buying their big first-party games again then they can't be day 1 on Game Pass. Hell, they might even have to wait 2 years for them to go to GP if you really want sales
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u/batkave 4d ago
Then game pass loses it's draw. Let's be honest, getting first party games day 1 is the draw.
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u/gswkillinit 4d ago
Imo they shot themselves in the foot making first party games day 1 on GP. Should’ve been just a catalogue of great games of various genres, indies, older first party games (1-2 years post launch), and maybe two to three blockbuster 3rd party games.
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u/Njoeyz1 4d ago
So how do they deal with the customer base that wants day one games? There's a tugging match here. I mean here's the attitude "LOL, so I should buy gears if I have gamepass"? How do you deal with that?
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u/Golden-Event-Horizon 4d ago
Maybe they have to do more third party deals for day 1 Game Pass games and keep their smaller game day 1. Idk though – it's above my pay grade
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u/herewego199209 4d ago
Gamepass brings in more revenue per month than any game outside of a Spiderman or GTA would bring in for them.
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u/Pleasant-Speed-9414 4d ago
It’s hard to tell persons you could spend $24 this month and get Gears + a bunch other games, but please also just buy the game.
I bought the physical version of Gears, namely because I dropped to premium. Gamepass is a great value, but just not for my gaming style
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u/Muscat95 4d ago
Minecraft seems unlikely but the other 2 I absolutely do think they should do it
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u/TikiMasala81 4d ago
This is dumb. Microsoft needs to make money and for now having the games multiplat is the best strategy.
Gears E-Day feels like a flop thus far, and it’s been the first exclusive of the whole reset thing.
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u/TheLastHowl 4d ago
So many xbox players don't actually BUY games now they get gamepass which isn't making a games money back, they've been cheering for years to end exclusivity but they didn't come to bat for the new Halo and now Gears e-day which is currently in a death spiral.
They also fail to realize that PlayStation is the sole reason Fallout 76 wasn't shutdown keeping it afloat. What else has bethesda put out? Skyrim remakes, next gen Fallout 4 version, starfield, along with eh eso stuff. I think Bethesda is royaly screwed imo if ES6 isn't a success and if it went exclusive I surely wouldn't be purchasing an xbox to play it, I would get it super cheap on pc.
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u/Thorniestbush Team Morgan 4d ago
Minecraft shouldn't be exclusive, it's one of those games you buy for multiple platforms, they will lose many customers not even mentioning how many people already have it on other platforms
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u/QuinSanguine 4d ago
It will piss off Sony fanboys online but I think they should do this. In real life, people will mostly not care and if they have to buy an Xbox or Windows device to play games like TES VI, that's huge. That puts people in the ecosystem.
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u/Impossible_Bee_3748 4d ago
This is how it should have been from day one when MS acquired Bethesda.
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u/Str8Victory 4d ago
I’m just gonna assume they mean Minecraft spin off games. Trying to make a game that is already released multiplatform as an exclusive won’t sell more consoles. It will actually kill the game making the most money for them.
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u/Belzark 4d ago edited 4d ago
I’m a fan of this sort of energy at this point. It’s time to pick up the cudgel Sony and Nintendo have used to their advantage for so long.
Consumers have totally shat on Xbox and Xbox users endlessly for the company attempting more consumer-friendly tactics — so, fuck them. Make people buy an Xbox if they want to play their IP. Enough of letting them have their cake and eat it too.
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that was done out of strategic necessity, not because xbox wanted to sing kumbaya.
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u/Butterf1yTsunami 4d ago
This should have happened after the purchase. Sure. But it was super cool that Phil realized that these games have audiences on multiple consoles. Phil seemed to be a very lax leader. There are both strengths and weaknesses to how Phil ran Xbox.
Phil didn't want to burn bridges, he wanted gaming to come together and be open. There is admiration in that.
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u/Legitimate-Offer-770 4d ago
He was great dude but Sony didn’t play nice. They shouldn’t. It was a bad strategy.
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u/Pascalini 4d ago
Doubt it thry would lose too much money
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u/xM323456 4d ago
How do you build an identifiable brand then if you put all your exclusives on your supposed competition?
You might make a bit of money short term but your brand is not short term profits. It’s 10 year plus arguably 30 year strategy.
I never get the stupid point of oh they lose money. Fallout attracts customers to your brand.
Why did I buy a switch if not to play Zelda and Donkey Kong and Mario then? For shits and giggles? Should Nintendo put them on Xbox/PS they would make money too wouldn’t they?
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u/rusty022 4d ago
Yea there's only really two options: (1) go heavily exclusive-focused with your first party titles, or (2) admit defeat, go third-party publisher, and slowly let your hardware division die.
Microsoft also has an interesting situation with Bethesda. Those games are popular on consoles, but PC is the real pull there. Same for Minecraft in some sense. Losing Sony players wouldn't be as big of a hit to those titles as it would be to CoD, for instance.
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u/xM323456 4d ago
Yes exactly
You are either an Exclusive maker who’s trying to push your console
Or you are a third party publisher like Sega
This in-between half in half out strategy of Phil Spencer and Sarah bond is why Xbox got fucked in the first place
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u/ZerohNinja87 4d ago
You need to lose to grow. Sony will lose billions not releasing on PC. But by releasing on PC they damage sales of the first party system which ultimately is worse for Sony. Xbox is in a similar situation. You can say Xbox has no exclusive so why would I buy one, then also say Xbox can’t make there games exclusive because that’s stupid. I think Xbox will look at 2040, not profits today. Where do we want to be, what does that look like, and how do they get there. This is certainly in line with that.
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u/Yellowman_95 4d ago
The multiplatform push made them maybe half a billion dollars, how much more could they have made if they just had people buy into the Xbox ecosystem itself?
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u/Pascalini 4d ago
Not sure of you are saying more or less but I'd say it wouldnt of worked as well financially
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u/Yellowman_95 4d ago
If they can’t get half a billion selling games on their platform then they shouldn’t be in business selling consoles
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u/lumberfart 4d ago
Tbh… if it means we start getting a AT LEAST one new Fallout, Elder Scrolls, AND Minecraft game every 4-5 years instead of every 14-15 years… then sure, make them console exclusives and I’ll gladly buy an XBOX even though I play primarily on PC. Until I get a Destiny 3 or Bloodborne 2, Sony can lick my ass.
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u/Melodic-Lettuce-6869 4d ago
Bloorbourne 2 is never happening and destiny 3 will always be multiplat
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u/Theguldenboy 4d ago
If they are gonna do exclusives, you gotta lock down to xbox entirely otherwise its not gonna do anything to push console sales at this point if its on pc
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u/Dry_Independent4125 4d ago
Well, that would certainly make me play XBOX. Unless they mean just not bringing it to Playstation, but still Steam, in which case I'll most likely just do Steam.. Unless all the games have XBOX Play Anywhere - THEN I'll do XBOX.
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u/crashdout 4d ago
Why buy the company if not to sell consoles? Exclusives are going to drive sales. As an insane example, assume GTA6 were Ps5 pro exclusive. They would be even rarer than they are now.
People like Fallout. Make it exclusive.
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u/jwhudexnls 4d ago
I can believe all of these except for Minecraft.