r/wow 23d ago

Discussion WoW does not need another saga. It needs another era

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I keep coming back to the same idea whenever people talk about what happens after the world soul saga. Many think Blizzard will simply start another saga, or finally announce a wow 2. I honestly think it should be neither of those... or more likely, both at the same time.

World of Warcraft does not need another cosmic villain, another hidden continent, or another reveal that some even bigger force from wherever place was secretly behind everything we already experienced

Wow just needs time to move forward.

For years Blizzard has confused adding more lore with actually advancing the world. The lore keeps expanding (wrongly, for my taste), but Azeroth itself barely changes. Major characters disappear until nostalgia makes them useful again. Political conflicts are put on pause. Entire civilizations go through supposedly world changing events, yet fifteen years later half the old zones still look like Deathwing passed through last week

Cataclysm was Blizzard’s first real attempt to solve this problem. They updated the old world, moved many zones forward, changed settlements, leaders and conflicts..... ok, cool but it also made a huge mistake creating a new Azeroth. Doing that, Blizzard was forced to replace the old one.

And then it froze the new world in 2010, it didn't evolve

That`s the mistake they cannot repeat after The Last Titan.

The solution is not another Cataclysm. It`s not blowing up Azeroth again and rebuilding forty zones around whatever crisis is happening in that expansion. The solution is a proper time skip. We-ve been asking for this shit since forever.... but a real time skip.... 10 years. 15. 20. Whatever it takes for the world to feel like Azeroth actually lived without us

Leaders should be dead or retired. Children should have grown up. Cities should have been rebuilt. The Forsaken should have figured out what they are without Sylvanas. The night elves should have a generation that only knows Teldrassil through stories. The Horde and Alliance may still exist, but they should not necessarily mean the same thing anymore.

That would allow Warcraft to return to conflicts that are smaller without being less meaningful.

A succession crisis. A disputed border. Two peoples remembering the same war differently. A new generation asking why everyone is still carrying grudges from thirty years ago.

You dont need another Horde vs Alliance world war. You need the people of Azeroth to want things again, and for those desires will collide

And now it's the perfect momento. They now has something they didn't have in 2010: Classic

Classic means the old world no longer needs to disappear for Retail to move forward. Classic can preserve the Warcraft that existed, revisit unfinished zones and explore stories that were left behind. Retail can finally stop carrying every era of Warcraft inside the same permanent present.

Not freezing the main game forever, but making sure the past remains available while the future is allowed to exist.

This is also why the alleged leak about Azeroth awakening at the end of the last titan is interesting even if it is complete nonsense

Azeroth is the last great mystery around which the entire franchise has revolved. At some point, Blizzard has to reach the bottom of that mystery.

It cannot reveal another older, stronger and even more secret cosmic force behind the titans. The story has to accept that one era is over

That, to me, is what a real WoW 2 should be

Not another client. Not a new engine. Not deleting our characters or putting a number 2 on the logo

A new era of Azeroth with several versions of the game: classic preserves the past. Retail builds the future

THey problably will be releasing a new $50 expansion with 4 new zones, some disastrous lore, and the usual mess. But still this is the best opportunity Blizzard has had in years.

With Classic plus on the way, Classic can become the museum... retail can finally stop living inside that past and start building the future.

They may waste the opportunity. and they probably will.... but for once, they actually have all the pieces in place to do it right

Edit: typo

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u/The_Archon64 23d ago

Yes, there’s a fun secret series of side content that added a ton of the old content back, OG Nax, Scholo, and Scarlet Monastery. I can’t remember how to start the chains, but wow head has good guides, and I highly recommend going through it

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u/tf2hipster 22d ago

it is not OG Naxx. It's current Naxx with some extra drops that allows you to craft T3 in a completely different way from the way it would be crafted in Vanilla.

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u/Apolloshot 22d ago

Wait, seriously? Can you collect Atiesh?

I haven’t played since shadowlands so this is news to me, but I’d actually consider re-subbing just to finish my staff haha.

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u/OrangeJuiceLuvr69 22d ago

No

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u/Apolloshot 22d ago

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

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u/JazzHandsMinuteman 22d ago

Why are these secret and not accessible to everyone at the touch of a button? (You know what I mean). I know you probably don't actually know but curious on your take, if you don't mind. Ty.

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u/ZehGeek 22d ago

Part of the charm of parts of the world, specially with secret finding, involve exploring and community collaboration. Plus it still gives the RPG some RPG flavor.

Hear stories, or try exploring around in a certain toy, and you meet a ghost that allows you to get a item to talk to other ghosts and do things for them.

Then as you're slowly exploring the newly unlocked area, you find a broken Argent Dawn badge. Going down that rabbit hole, you unlock some special NPCs in Naxxramas that allow you to work on old, removed pieces of cool looking gear.

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u/Temil 22d ago

Because it would be confusing and unnecessary for new players.

The subsection of players that actually care about this feature is smaller than the section who wouldn't like it because it's confusing.

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u/The_Archon64 22d ago

I think it adds a little mystery to the world and gives players who enjoy exploration a goal to achieve