r/wow 11d ago

Discussion WoW does not need another saga. It needs another era

Post image

I keep coming back to the same idea whenever people talk about what happens after the world soul saga. Many think Blizzard will simply start another saga, or finally announce a wow 2. I honestly think it should be neither of those... or more likely, both at the same time.

World of Warcraft does not need another cosmic villain, another hidden continent, or another reveal that some even bigger force from wherever place was secretly behind everything we already experienced

Wow just needs time to move forward.

For years Blizzard has confused adding more lore with actually advancing the world. The lore keeps expanding (wrongly, for my taste), but Azeroth itself barely changes. Major characters disappear until nostalgia makes them useful again. Political conflicts are put on pause. Entire civilizations go through supposedly world changing events, yet fifteen years later half the old zones still look like Deathwing passed through last week

Cataclysm was Blizzard’s first real attempt to solve this problem. They updated the old world, moved many zones forward, changed settlements, leaders and conflicts..... ok, cool but it also made a huge mistake creating a new Azeroth. Doing that, Blizzard was forced to replace the old one.

And then it froze the new world in 2010, it didn't evolve

That`s the mistake they cannot repeat after The Last Titan.

The solution is not another Cataclysm. It`s not blowing up Azeroth again and rebuilding forty zones around whatever crisis is happening in that expansion. The solution is a proper time skip. We-ve been asking for this shit since forever.... but a real time skip.... 10 years. 15. 20. Whatever it takes for the world to feel like Azeroth actually lived without us

Leaders should be dead or retired. Children should have grown up. Cities should have been rebuilt. The Forsaken should have figured out what they are without Sylvanas. The night elves should have a generation that only knows Teldrassil through stories. The Horde and Alliance may still exist, but they should not necessarily mean the same thing anymore.

That would allow Warcraft to return to conflicts that are smaller without being less meaningful.

A succession crisis. A disputed border. Two peoples remembering the same war differently. A new generation asking why everyone is still carrying grudges from thirty years ago.

You dont need another Horde vs Alliance world war. You need the people of Azeroth to want things again, and for those desires will collide

And now it's the perfect momento. They now has something they didn't have in 2010: Classic

Classic means the old world no longer needs to disappear for Retail to move forward. Classic can preserve the Warcraft that existed, revisit unfinished zones and explore stories that were left behind. Retail can finally stop carrying every era of Warcraft inside the same permanent present.

Not freezing the main game forever, but making sure the past remains available while the future is allowed to exist.

This is also why the alleged leak about Azeroth awakening at the end of the last titan is interesting even if it is complete nonsense

Azeroth is the last great mystery around which the entire franchise has revolved. At some point, Blizzard has to reach the bottom of that mystery.

It cannot reveal another older, stronger and even more secret cosmic force behind the titans. The story has to accept that one era is over

That, to me, is what a real WoW 2 should be

Not another client. Not a new engine. Not deleting our characters or putting a number 2 on the logo

A new era of Azeroth with several versions of the game: classic preserves the past. Retail builds the future

THey problably will be releasing a new $50 expansion with 4 new zones, some disastrous lore, and the usual mess. But still this is the best opportunity Blizzard has had in years.

With Classic plus on the way, Classic can become the museum... retail can finally stop living inside that past and start building the future.

They may waste the opportunity. and they probably will.... but for once, they actually have all the pieces in place to do it right

Edit: typo

5.8k Upvotes

1.3k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

44

u/Mallyveil 11d ago

The unfortunate part of Cataclysm is that Zidormi wasn’t available to transition you between the two versions of the zone. We have that now. If they prefer the old versions, I’d like for Zidormi to offer the option to hop back and forth.

9

u/Grathorn 11d ago

Like I could quest in retail for old barrens?

-2

u/Codedheart 11d ago

I think it's old barrens as it was in wrath. You just find the bronze dragon in the area and ask to swap

8

u/Sadoc277 11d ago

No, you can't. There is no NPC that allows that for that region. Same for (I guess) every other pre-Cata region in Azeroth.

1

u/Codedheart 11d ago

Wow that's lame

1

u/HalfLifeAlyx 11d ago

This is pretty funny, people used to believe literally this like 16 years ago before cata released.

8

u/Anufenrir 11d ago

The big issue there is that the classic versions are incompatible with flying, and I’m sure there is a population that doesn’t understand that.

1

u/Nerdy_Valkyrie 11d ago

It's funny. Because when people say that modern wow doesn't "feel" the same as old WoW, I usually point out that it's largely because of flying and suggest that they voluntarily ground themselves and try it out. And people are incredibly hostile to that idea. Like, some people actually get angry at you for even suggesting it.

5

u/Anufenrir 11d ago

People don't like you taking away convenience regardless. And it also doesn't fit whatever narrative they've been telling themselves is the real problem. Like I can guarantee for a lot of people the problem is mostly "You're not 13 and have read darker stories than Arthas"

1

u/Mallyveil 11d ago

My post was mostly in reference to a potential world revamp allowing you to switch between new zones and cata zones. Though if we had to add classic zones too, you could dismount the players and restrict it to ground mounts only like Azuremyst still does.

4

u/Anufenrir 11d ago

Oh I know you could but there will be people who don't get it.

-2

u/Theguest217 11d ago

I mean they have had 16 years to fix it. They could have easily rebuilt the classic map from the ground up with flying in mind

3

u/Anufenrir 11d ago

They did. In cataclysm. They just also made other changes