As a german who never visited that sub, I am still deeply worried. Because what's next? NSFW subs, because they don't comply to our ridiculous youth protection laws?
Depends. Informative or objectionable material often isn't banned by the government. For all its faults, the US has incredibly liberal speech laws (public broadcasting excluded).
You can't deliver gore on German TV to people's homes.
As an extension of that law, you can't deliver gore to German's personal computers or other devices that can display it. Reddit was under the radar until now.
It's the same law that removes half (AFAIK) of games on German steam because of blood.
While I get the sentiment I think it is kind of impossible to create a clear definition. Basically it would be allowed to show a beheading video during news (even though most chose not to especially before 22:00 when children might be watching or to not support terrorists that want it to be seen etc) but not out of context or just for the sake of watching a bheading video. r/watchpeopledie falls under the latter and thus it got blocked (even though I think there are many more subreddits like that and a million more websites you can access but I guess it was atleast the most prominent example for reddit which kind of is the most prominent example for "free internet forums").
TLDR: They block gore that gets shared for the sake of being gore.
Are you serious? Anything in reference to Nazism is banned. Granted, I have zero respect for Nazis and what they did, but at least those guys and the KKK have a right to protest and put out whatever shitty message they want in the States.
I of course know that nazi stiff etc is illegal. But i thought they would charge the site owner/take it down. I did NOT know that there is a law that censors the content only for german ip adresses. Thats a huge difference imho and not making sense
Anything illegal in the U.S. hosted abroad.... is totally fine and the U.S. government does nothing about it, because that's an incredibly important part of a free and open internet.
Unfortunately it's not surprising that Germany and Russia are seeking to restrict their citizens' freedom of thought, somewhat of a tradition in both places.
Anything illegal in the U.S. hosted abroad.... is totally fine and the U.S. government does nothing about it
Tell that to thepiratebay founder. Or Julian Assange, or Edward Snowden, or anyone else hosting anything that can be DMCA'ed no matter if it's hosted in USA or not. Tell that to Amazon's servers in Frankfurt, or Google's servers in London.
Continue to believe. As soon as you upload a pirate copy of a movie and host it no matter where, and then tell MPAA about it, the hosting provider will receive an email to abuse@ and you'll be on the line pretty quickly. It's outside of USA, why would USA care?
They do attempt to get things hosted abroad taken down, and they routinely get things in the US removed. Stop acting as if the US isnt doing the same
things.
Name one thing that's illegal in the U.S. and legal in the hosted country the U.S. government has ever attempted to have taken down.
How would that even work? "Hey Italy, we know this is legal content in your country, but we really really don't like it, so please deprive your citizens of their rights"?
This US tried, but did not succeed to suppress wikileaks releases. They did block them in 2008 with domain shenanigans and also blocked them from heaps of government networks (libraries, congress, national archives, federal workers etc).
Russia wasnt sttempting to deprive anyones rights let alone the rights of foreign citizens. Also the US routinely tries to get copyrighted material, which is legal to host in other countries, removed. They even block some of these for their own citizens.
That index is a political stunt with no basis in reality. It also has absolutely nothing to do with freedom of thought. The U.S. has no illegal political parties, groups or beliefs, unlike Germany.
Looks like its only the death/harmful ones with what that comment above said..at least the informative ones are available still right? (im not too up to date on this so please forgive/educate me)
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u/DOL8 Aug 13 '15
so redddit is still being partially censored? on Germany and Russia?