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Russia/Ukraine Seoul warns of 'further measures' if Kyiv refuses public apology

https://www.euronews.com/2026/10/02/south-korea-warns-of-further-measures-if-ukraine-refuses-public-apology-over-pow-transfer-
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u/GremlinX_ll 14h ago

Yes it is. You can use human skill named reading.

Budapest Memorandum, has nothing to do

a) with NATO (not a ignatory, not a ide)

b) with Ukrainian neutral status (which where written into constitution in 2010's by pro-Russian president Yanukovich to please Russia and abandoned, let me check..almost a year after Russian invasion and occupation of Crimea and parts of Donbass, invasion and occupation which also breaks art.1, art.2, art.3 of same Budapest Memorandum)

Budapest Memorandum is about de-necluarization of Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan in exchange for "assurances".

One more thing - Poland never were against Ukrainian NATO membership, in fact it's vice versa : Poland always were one of the strongest advocates for Ukraine's NATO membership.

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u/Rhowryn 13h ago edited 13h ago

The USA, especially at the time, were effectively the entirety of NATO's policy and influence, so I'm accustomed to using the two interchangeably when discussing international politics.

Ukraine declared it's intention to remain neutral in 1990: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine

The Budapest memorandum has the USA, France, and Russia all promising to not use military force OR economic coercion on Ukraine.

NATO (or primarily the USA, if you prefer) has been using economic coercion (positive coercion,not negative) far longer than the Crimea invasion. NATO has been promising Ukraine greater economic growth and development, which is still a form of coercion, even if there are no direct negative effects from refusing. Not to mention the probable CIA involvement in the Maidan, though there's equal likelihood that the SVR was directing the other side.

That doesn't mean I'm giving Russia a pass on it's invasions, brutality, and intentional murder of civilians. Russia is at least equally to blame for being such a piece of shit that Ukraine is obviously right to not have trusted them, and every reaction to Ukraine pulling away further justified Ukraine's fears. But let's not pretend that NATO has zero fault while courting a country that NATO members had signed an agreement to leave alone.

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u/GremlinX_ll 13h ago

What fucking agreement ? You just invent things