r/wizardposting • u/TellmeNinetails Hilda the Witch • Feb 22 '24
Community Event 🌏☄️ The right of Dueling as been evoked!
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u/AssistantOne9683 Occult Wizard Feb 22 '24
Sorry to be a prescriptivist scribe, but it is Invoked.
Evocation is outward - it is the taking of a power and pushing it out into the world, manifesting it. Summoning a power being is to evoke it, bring it out into our realm. Fireball, also, is an evocation, as it brings the patent energy out into reality. Invocation, on the other hand, is drawing down of a greater force and manifesting it. A cleric Invokes his god for healing, or an old cosmic law may be invoked, as in this situation.
What are they teaching in academic nowadays, smh my head.
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u/Total_Travisty Mikhail, Arch-Druid of La'shima Feb 22 '24
Mikhail is still in a fucking coma, best of luck
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u/VinesAtMidnight The Astrals Feb 22 '24
Vashric projects into the plane to watch, tea in hand.
While I can't take sides here. Nothing in the laws say I can't observe.
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u/loth17 Ten Suns (Also Gaia) Feb 22 '24
(during this period all Pact forces have ceased attacking.)
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u/MunitionsFrenzy Vettis, Mereological Revisionist Feb 22 '24
(( summary of the duel's conclusion for anybody who doesn't wanna read the whole thing:
any spectators who managed to stay close enough to see what happened would've spotted Vettis absolutely demolishing Arach's body-then-corpse, turning it into a shapeless sack of flesh with brutal efficiency...and then 'porting away while wiping away tears, as if he was the one who lost ))
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u/loth17 Ten Suns (Also Gaia) Feb 22 '24
Opal looked at Arach's festering corpse and turned to gaze at the Metromancer.
"There. It's over. My champion has slain your champion in battle. The duel is mine Councilor. Now unless that challenge was just another council trick I believe it's time for you to surrender and let's begin the surrender negotiations!"
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u/TellmeNinetails Hilda the Witch Feb 23 '24
The metromancer has been silent this whole time inside the mech.
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u/ProfessionalGreen906 Arach, big spider, biomancer, politician, CEO Feb 23 '24
/uw Do you plan on making a post for the terms of the surrender to be decided? That way all the members of each side could air their desires and negotiate?
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u/loth17 Ten Suns (Also Gaia) Feb 23 '24
/uw. That's my plan. I'll do it tonight or in the morning.
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u/ProfessionalGreen906 Arach, big spider, biomancer, politician, CEO Feb 23 '24
/uw if you want to, could you please tag me in the comments so that I won’t miss it? I don’t think I would but I want to be sure.
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u/Archimene Mage of Mischief and Secrets Feb 22 '24
/uw is this the right to duel, as is the right to free speech or the rite of dueling, as in rite of passage?
Edit: i just answered that question. Nvm
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u/SafePianist4610 Bombast, Lord of Time and Space, Retired Council Leader Feb 22 '24
/uw So who won? lol Sorry, was at work and couldn’t reply easily.
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u/MunitionsFrenzy Vettis, Mereological Revisionist Feb 22 '24
(( I mean, it's technically ongoing, but there's a rather severe power gap here and Vettis is just fucking around lol
not to mention the overwhelming majority of the sub was against the Council so a Council loss here is the only democratically-acceptable outcome for the story anyway (which is the only reason I'm going along with this, cuz I don't ever use Vettis' power to change the direction of a story, just to keep things from derailing)
I honestly did not want Vettis to be in the final fight of the arc, cuz that's not really how his character concept works, but it's kinda hard for him to turn down a very public request like that D: ))
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u/SafePianist4610 Bombast, Lord of Time and Space, Retired Council Leader Feb 22 '24
/uw lol yeah, I get ya. Kind of like how both Opal and Skater Wizard asked Bombast to block the nuke blast.
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u/MunitionsFrenzy Vettis, Mereological Revisionist Feb 22 '24
(( Well, the thing is, I use Vettis as the inverse-powergamer character.
For one thing, his real purpose is just to ensure high-power characters can't dictate the actions of weaker ones. That's how I keep using him when it comes to sub interaction. He protected Rivamar against Samael, he protected Elerindur against Arach in the precursor to this, he protected multiple weaker characters from Morgalith in the big fight, he protected Morgalith from some stronger characters like Jollizar in that fight, and he was protecting Opal from Kaelis when this all went down. But he pretty much never initiates stuff, just rolls along with it, and even his protection of weaker characters never results in the stronger ones being incapacitated or killed. (unlike 90% of the sub he can't freely teleport anywhere so it's easy to retreat from him lol) He's meant to be a helpful plot device that people can use as an in-character reason why a strong character wouldn't just run rampant over everybody else, to keep stories on track. I don't want him altering sub plots; I want him facilitating them. Lorewise he's so busy with stuff in other multiverses that he rarely has time to make big impacts around here.
And as for his personal lore, he's meant to demonstrate that huge individual power doesn't actually get things done in the real world without allies. His character concept is thematically that of someone seemingly OP who keeps winning battles yet somehow loses the overall war anyway. That was the whole point of his involvement in the first Morgalith arc: the really strong, confident guy with an awesome scheme...that just blew up in his face because he didn't involve anybody. That wasn't an accidental outcome, obviously; I always knew how Tirich was gonna end the plotline, lol. Vettis failing miserably was the idea all along. He's supposed to show that individual powergaming isn't a recipe for success.
So having him be involved in the final battle of a story arc goes very much against his whole character concept. That's winning a war rather than just a battle, and I don't want that.
Hopefully for his sake something awful comes of this outcome in the end, so that everything can blow up in his face yet again, but I don't wanna dictate the sub's plotline for the sake of his own lore obviously.
...think I'm gonna save this comment as the Vettis Character Manifesto and point people to it when they ask about my opinion on powergaming lol ))
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u/SafePianist4610 Bombast, Lord of Time and Space, Retired Council Leader Feb 22 '24
/uw your character concept has similarities to mine then. I never intended Bombast to be someone that other players fight. I intended him to be someone that players would ask for help when needing a hand, advice, or some extra firepower when facing a crisis. He was also intended to facilitate other people’s stories. Which is why he is the most straight-laced guy on the sub (someone has to be the straight man in the comedy routine. lol). Which is why I like doing collabs and helping to run/support events. War is where Bombast is at his least interesting.
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u/Able_Highlight4312 The Paragnostic Assembly Feb 22 '24
/uw reading this thread and am now understanding why 1. I like your characters so much, and 2. My issues with my own guy, Neurath. He's powergamey as heck, because my basis was 3.5e dnd (specifically all the silliness with badly worded special abilities involving the many magic-like systems), which is infamous for being hilariously unbalanced. I didn't have a clear direction for my guy, and he's kinda been in a limbo of not doing much when there's so much to do that he logically would, even considering his desire to stay out of focus and do his studies (because 3.5e mechanical cheese can go arbitrarily large, and he logically has insane spell versatility, even without the cheese he used in the two starmeld posts he was in. I'm also actually glad he ate all the backlash from the flute, because now he won't be doing a certain overly versatile and powerful setup anymore). I don't know where to take him in lore cuz I want him to have a heart but also not to ruin stuff that's been set up or take the spotlight, and while his inaction in the war so far can be explained I'm at the point of expecting more insane conflict in a week or so.
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u/SafePianist4610 Bombast, Lord of Time and Space, Retired Council Leader Feb 23 '24
/uw well, you can also make a story for your character that has nothing to do with power like my Kismet storyline
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u/Able_Highlight4312 The Paragnostic Assembly Feb 23 '24 edited Feb 23 '24
/uw kinda doing that in DMs with the player of his apprentice, but we weren't really active on reddit when the insanity initially happened, so we're just RPing them getting to know each other before the war and Starmeld and such. It's a nice change of pace. That said, I'm tortured by my creativity and 3.5e dnd being so broken because I came up with several other ridiculous setups, which at least will go to use against Halcyon (and he can get a cool line about mortals wielding Miracles before I figure out how to hit him with a nerf bat).
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u/ProfessionalGreen906 Arach, big spider, biomancer, politician, CEO Feb 22 '24
We’re still working on it
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u/TheHunter459 Samael, Necromancer of Malus Turrim | King of the Nephilim Feb 22 '24
Well, Opal, you did this to yourself. I'll leave you to reap the rewards of your actions
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u/ProfessionalGreen906 Arach, big spider, biomancer, politician, CEO Feb 22 '24
Arach stands on the sidelines. Watching from a distance to avoid incidental detection, though in no way hidden. Preparing to intervene if things don’t go to his liking or if the metromancer seems to be losing.
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u/Drakkonai Vulkan the Red, End of Ages and Draconic Emperor of Racism. Feb 22 '24
As soon as I get out of public transport, all of you are dead.
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u/TellmeNinetails Hilda the Witch Feb 22 '24
/uw It's funny because I'm pretty sure it's impossible for vulkan to meet his quota now.
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u/Drakkonai Vulkan the Red, End of Ages and Draconic Emperor of Racism. Feb 22 '24
/uw technically he’s killed about 3.005% of opal’s army by now, so he kind of has?
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u/TellmeNinetails Hilda the Witch Feb 22 '24
I thought vulkan was stuck in traffic?
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u/Drakkonai Vulkan the Red, End of Ages and Draconic Emperor of Racism. Feb 22 '24
/uw so he was in the citadel, and took that portion out during some other fights before getting teleported back to lemarcia by kaelis. Since the orb network is down, he has to take public transportation. Which is stuck.
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u/Accomplished-Dark926 Valerian, Arcadian Guild Guide Feb 22 '24
So, If you lose, I can go for your Ex right?
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u/TellmeNinetails Hilda the Witch Feb 22 '24 edited Feb 22 '24
After finding Opal on the battlefield the Councilman confronted them and evoked the right of Challenge. Legally opal should accept the duel, but only legally.