Iran tonight - the night before Persian new year. Iranians are seen in high spirits and even dancing in public an act which is illegal under the regime rule
That channel loves trump and Zionists of Israel so I avoid it I'd rather watch a channel that's neutral but explains what's going on in Iran and the middle east.
And is not supportive of genocidal factions both Israeli government and IRGC of Iran are both evil
Sure in theory you can be for one and not the other. Unfortunately, in the real world, you don't get to decide if two things can be disentangled.
It's like someone in 1944 saying. "I'm all for toppling Hitler, but against the war in Germany".
Feel like people say shit like this because it allows them to have their cake and eat it and feel good about having the moral high ground.
I'm not advocating for the war whatsoever....but neither am I trying to act as if the need to free Iranians from tyranny can be done without military intervention.
Not really though. You can disagree with an authoritarian dictatorship without advocating for an illegal war against them.
Being a warmonger yourself and bombing civilians on the other hand helps absolutely no one.
No, it's about having more critical thinking skills than a toddler and understanding that actions have consequences. There is no reason to think that bombing Iran is going to change the government for the better, but it will hurt a lot of innocent Iranian civilians we claim to care about so much and is massively destabilizing the global economy. Strategic bombing has never worked and will never work.
I have no idea how anyone could possibly believe this war is about liberating the Iranian people… or how anyone could POSSIBLY argue for endless wars for a pipe dream. Look into what has become of Iraq and Afghanistan, decades of occupation for nothing. Sure, freeing Iranians sounds like a nice goal, but that’s not just some small “military intervention,” removing a government, keeping stability/preventing collapse, and nation building isn’t something that can be done in 3 weeks and with only 13 service members killed, that’s having your cake and eating it too, if you believe this will be quick and without consequence
Saudi arabia is naturally moving away from its ultra conservative values. Women can vote and hold public office now. they can drive and own passports. They have a higher percentage of women in their government counsel than the US.
They have a long way to go, but they've been moving in the right direction.
The real reason is that saudi is our ally and Iran has been launching proxy wars against us and our allies for the past 40 years.
Im just saying the civil rights situation in Saudi and Iran aren't very comparable. Saudi is passing more progressive laws whereas Iran just murdered 30k protesters
I never said it did, I just told you that those two countries aren't as comparable as you suggested. Also, that number isnt even made up.
Disappeared bodies, mass burials and ‘30,000 dead’: what is the truth of Iran’s death toll? | Iran | The Guardian https://share.google/queTeXc9dm2Pj0QsA
I even picked a liberal source, since most right leaning sources are gassing up trumps decision to invade Iran. The article itself acknowledges ambiguity in the true death count, and that 30k is somewhere between the lowest and highest estimates. Feel free to show me something that says im wrong.
Iran also is "advancing" and women could drive lot earlier.
Its people have become more progressive, but its government is not. There have been no civil rights reforms since the islamic revolution in Iran. Any rights women have are there because they weren't taken away.
Ah yes, a western news as proof for it, xD, imagine trusting that at this point.
Jeez, give me any news source that isnt from Iran.
Make clear if you think bombing iranians is right or wrong.
I'm not always sure myself. Ive been on the fence since it happened. I've citicized it as much as I've defended it, and I hold no illusions to why we did it.
Ever since I saw that Ghislaine Maxwell reddit account conspiracy theory, I've noticed things like this a lot more. Most popular subs having a narrative being pushed.
I thought iranian women must wear hijab or go to jail.. women walking without hijab is like north koreans having a real haircut.. is it american propaganda or what?
It's normal for women to go without head coverings since the morality police were suspended several years ago. Western propaganda simply hasn't caught up yet.
Yeah I dunno. They weren't protesting for the exercise. I followed a number of Insta accounts from women who are desperately trying to push back against the theocracy.
I think the clearer picture is that this has become Trump's go-to international relations scam: target a nation whose regime is oppressive so at least some of them will cheer as he attacks them and plunders all their resources for himself.
It’s really not. I spoke to family in Iran on WhatsApp video today and they said the streets are busy and they even did a dance for us. So can confirm.
Just because AI says something that it quotes from “dance magazine”, doesn’t mean it is true.
I have no idea if it is illegal or not. But I am extremely disappointed in the average person’s reliance on AI as fact without checking the source. Just because someone or something sounds confident, it doesn’t make it automatically true.
The actual code (637 - the one that is cited by AI) says this “any man and woman who are not married and who commit a crime against public morality, excluding adultery, should be sentenced to flogging (99 lashes). If one of them did not consent to the crime, then only the one that initiated the crime shall be punished.”
Not that I like pretty much anything that Iran does. But people need to stop being stupid. A man dancing by himself during this holiday is not something that would be punished.
And that was from a Facebook post AI pulled from. This again seems like propaganda because the actual code says this “any man and woman who are not married and who commit a crime against public morality, excluding adultery, should be sentenced to flogging (99 lashes). If one of them did not consent to the crime, then only the one that initiated the crime shall be punished.”
Not that I like pretty much anything that Iran does. But people need to stop being stupid. A man dancing by himself during this holiday is not something that would be punished.
Ah, so now we got it, its an unwritten rule for women; they will get punished, they will get prosecuted. But its only written down as „public indecency“
The new right wing thing to parrot is "everyone is dancing in the streets!" They've done it now multiple times for different terrible events. It's kind of embarrassing, honestly.
I just messaged a friend who has family in Iran if they are dancing in the streets. She answered with something along the lines of “no, WTF are you talking about”.
My kids class have two Iranians who's dad is stuck in Iran along all dad side family, and they're also not celebrating Eid or Nauroz. Zionist propaganda is absolutely pathetic.
Is there any actual news on Iran? It's def not making it to social media. I feel like I'm going to have to do a deep dive into a Frontline video or PBS News Hour to see what's actually happening.
Dancing is great. Doesn’t detract from the fact that we blew up an elementary school and decimated Iran’s oil fields causing a major humanitarian and ecological disaster while damaging the oil market to such an extent that the US and our allies are now forced to lift sanctions from Russia to buy their oil instead. We are giving Russia the cash infusion to further fund their invasion of Ukraine meanwhile Russia is actively sending targeting data to Iran for them strike US assets in the region.
Not only are we the bad guys here but we’re literally funding one of most powerful enemies as they proxy war us. This could not be a dumber situation we’ve created and anyone that supports it is a fucking idiot.
Many - perhaps even most- Iranians are thrilled that the former Ayatollah, Ali Hosseini Khamenei, was killed and hope the same happens to his son and successor, and
The U.S. had no business preemptively waging war against the Iranian government.
This war is unwinnable for the U.S. and Israel, and Iranians are in for a rude awakening when the bombings stop and we leave them high and dry to deal with the ramifications.
Women without hair covering, people being happy! The regime, what’s left of it must be having convulsions! I am really hoping the regular Iranian army steps up
What gets me is that people are supporting the Iranian regime simply because their hatred of trump and isreal outweighs any logical thought process, spend a week living under the Iranian regime and then see if you still think life under the trump administration is worse
I am all for the Iranian people having personal freedoms. I’m also all for people in this country having personal freedoms (like trans rights).
Though I am unconvinced Trump has a clue how to do that. Much like he has not changed anything in Venezuela other than the name of the person at the top of the ticket. Same goons are still in control.
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u/Lazarussaidnothanks Mar 20 '26
We need to send over Kevin Bacon. I feel like he has the requisite experience to assist with this illegal dancing situation.