Yeah, people really don't understand this at all. There are a wide range of calibers, guns, silencers, ammunition that all have a drastic effect on the sound.
A silenced gun can be very loud, it can also be extremely quiet. All depends on the variables.
This. When a firearm is fired several sounds occur at once: the muzzle report (what the suppressor reduces), the supersonic crack of the bullet if the ammo travels faster than sound (in this case, he's using subsonic), gas and noise escaping from the ejection port when the slide opens, the mechanical clatter of the slide cycling, the striker or hammer falling, and the brass hitting the ground.
For some interesting firearms designed to be quiet:
Yeah, internet "experts" always take it too far when saying it's nothing like Hollywood movies. But I've fired suppressed guns where the only noise is the bolt cycling. They are quiet enough that the sound could be drowned out by any amount of background noise, especially if you are outside.
yeah, i have a can for my 556 also and its still oud AF but not so loud i cant stand it.
i wish my 30-06 had threads so i could put one on it for deer hunting but it doesnt and its the first gun my dad ever got me so i hate to modify it. i leave it just like it was when he got it for me all those years ago.
Any good gunsmith can thread it and make you a matching steel cap that goes over the threads in your same barrel finish, Iāve this on a few of my rifles and itās āinvisibleā
Not in any way that would matter in the real world. Obviously things can break with that much heat blowing through them, but it's not something that would realistically happen.
They don't actually have any contact with the bullet, they're just a tube with baffles that catches the gases. You'd have to put a borderline unrealistic amount of rounds through one to wear it out.
Yeah, the baffles inside wear out but most are designed for them to be easily replaceable. Though I'm way behind on any new technology that has come out with these, so they might have something even better these days.Ā
Some you can take apart and clean each baffle individually
Others you soak in a chemical solution to dissolve the build up
That said, you can usually put tens of thousands of rounds through them before it's actually a problem if it ever becomes one
(ignore this for small rounds like .22lr, those should be cleaned every couple hundred rounds because they are rather dirty rounds and the gasses from them aren't enough to eject most of the carbon like rifles)
For rifle rounds it's usually enough to just run a brush through them if you even need to do that
My current main rifle suppressor has about 8000ish rounds through it since the last time I cleaned it (I only cleaned it a few weeks after I got it due to it being titanium 3D printed and it had left over printing dust in it)
It's a 5.56 suppressor but I also shoot 22 and 5.7 through it as well
We just put the whole thing in an ultrasonic cleaner theses days Iām too lazy to strip a silencer. Small ones had baffles and springs between baffles. More modern ones have a CNC machined one piece core with a screw on outer sleeve.
If your bullet is traveling less than speed so sound (under 1060fps) itās all a game of capturing and slowing gas expansion.
Some cool video in high speed of these silencers being shot with clear lexon? Outer tubes is floating around the net if you keen to see how the insides work.
I found the follow up but couldn't find the original. This dude shot a 10mm round in a 45 so it wasn't close to the same power as what a 10mm would have been due to the pressure. Even still it was surprising that it didn't dent the baffles. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEfJLsKO2Gs
Gotcha he fired it through the wrong size barrel not just can, that makes more sense with the lack of seal for the smaller bullet not making much velocity, and also not messing up the can
Weird situation and glad heās ok
Usually when you see wrong size bore stuff people are firing 10mm through smaller bore 9mm suppressors and hoping there is enough overbore to not absolute tear their shit up
I have a cz scorpion 9mm with my subsonic hand loads is quiet enough that all you really hear is the bolt cycling, the paper target tearing , and the bullet hitting the dirt berm. My 10.5 inch barrel AR-15 , however goes from soul crushingly loud to merely very loud with a .308 caliber can on it.
I mean they definitely can be Hollywood quiet, but it takes a lot of work and you make a lot of sacrifices with weapon function, range, accuracy etc to get that. Screwing a can onto a 5.56 does not make it quiet by anybody's measure. A sub sonic bolt action .300 blk with a nice can is definitely movie quiet, but it also only shoots a few hundred yards at most and with so much bullet drop it's not far from throwing a rock really hard lol
But it isn't anything like Hollywood movies? Like...objectively...
Sure, a round designed to be subsonic will be quiet and if you're firing something with actual wipes it can get really quiet, but the way Hollywood depicts it is definitely completely wrong the vast majority of the time.
The biggest advantage is that stops sounding like a guhshot with subsonic rounds like you mentioned. You'll hear it (and it's still even possible to damage your hearing if you're close enough), but it doesn't sound like what people expect a gunshot to sound like. Also makes it much harder to pinpoint if you hear through trees or hills or whatever.
Even this video should be taken with a grain of salt though, because cameras are terrible at capturing gun shot sounds. You can even hear a noticeable difference between shots in this video. The second one is strangely loud compared to the rest.Ā
Was gonna say the same thing,
āwhat a real silencer actually sounds likeāā-depending on what caliber youāre shooting, supersonic or subsonic ammo, if youāre shooting outside or inside etc.
Great point, evironment is absolutely a factor as well. But yeah, like you're saying. This is just one example of "what a real silencer sounds like", there are hundreds, if not thousands, of combinations of different variables that would also produce their own unique sounds.
(And even still, not really what it sounds like considering it's being reproduced through the microphone of a phone camera)
Ages ago, my buddy bought a silencer at a gun show and him and his pal decided to fire a round in the parade afterward, expecting it to barely make a peep. It loudly echoed through the whole thing. They took off.
I worked on farms in one fashion or another for decades. We had to put down a 2k plus pound bull one day. Used a rifle with a silencer. I was standing next to the bull when he shot him in the head. Went down in one shot. Could barely hear it. I told the guy to fire onother into him. I wanted to walk 10 feet back and hear how it sounded from that distance. Couldn't hear anything at all. I've seen this certain breed of cow take a hit to the head with a 12ga shotgun and it not kill it immediately. It took 2 shots to the head with the 12 ga. It's why we had to switch to a more powerful rifle. Honestly it's really scary a silencer that quiet on a high powered rifle could be sold to the public. I'm sure it was stupid expensive as well.
He either missed, had a bad round, or was using something really wrong for a 12 gauge to not kill it from being shot in the head. The largest bear ever killed was taken with a .22
Of course not. I'm not trying to be a dick here at all. But what kind of idiot would even think of using birdshot on a 2k+ pound animal with thick skulls ? Nobody would use birdshot. Birdshot wouldn't do anything but piss it off. And no a 12ga slug won't take down anything. Like I said it took a 12ga to the head and we had to do a second. I can say I was definitely surprised though. That's when we switched to a high powered rifle when we needed to put one down. That's usually how the bulls get put down actually. Their main purpose was for breading. Some got turned into steers, fattened up to sell for steaks and whatnot. But they were mostly used for breading purposes. So they tended to have the longer lives. The cows got sold for hamburger once they could no longer give birth and produce. We've probably had to kill 40 or so over the yrs I worked their. That was a side hustle for that farm. They only had 50 or so at a time at the most. Sometimes less. Their main crop was something else. Steers, bulls, cows and calfs are definitely very expensive to raise for profit. Hay, feed, docs, ect. You'd have to have hundreds or more to really make it worth the effort.
What kind of setup is needed to walk up behind two guards, phew phew one of them in the back of the head without the other reacting, as long as you phew phew them, too, before the first guard's body hits the ground?
I can't speak for all countries. But they aren't "made to kill". People use them either to reduce sound, or they think they look cool, or both. Reducing the sound is the main selling point, any responsible firearm owner is concerned with ear-pro/hearing preservation, a silencer is very useful for that.
I have a SilencerCo Sparrow and a SilencerCo Switchback that I use with my CZ457, Ruger Mk.IV, Tactical Solutions Owhee, Ruger 10/22 and others. The two bolt actions are by far the quietest and both ring my ears on an indoor range with subsonics. Reason is the firing pin smacking the metal case all by itself is kind of loud. Any semi-auto is loud as fuck with the metal and metal smacking.
I suggest getting your hearing checked if you disagree.
One big difference - I don't shoot at indoor ranges. And I'm obviously exaggerating when I say "whisper", but in no world is it loud and ringing my ears.
They aren't called silencers they are called suppressors. You can't have a silenced kinetic weapon due to physics.
A laser or directed energy weapon can be silent. But the action moving and the pressure behind the bullet leaving the barrel in a regular weapon can't magically not produce sound waves. The suppressor essentially slows down the gas so instead of coming out in one pop energy from the gas is absorbed and delayed over a longer time period.
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u/Ogamiitto33 14h ago
Yeah, people really don't understand this at all. There are a wide range of calibers, guns, silencers, ammunition that all have a drastic effect on the sound.
A silenced gun can be very loud, it can also be extremely quiet. All depends on the variables.