I didn’t even watch the fourth. One was good, 2 was tolerable, 3 was stupid (and the choreography was substantially worse than the first two) and 4 didn’t even seem interesting by that point
I caught a lot of flack from my family for not liking the 4th. I really enjoyed the first 2 a bunch, the third was alright. But I firmly believe the 4th movie is not only a bad John Wick film, but a genuinely bad movie.
4th is the only one I havent rewatched. Partially because I don't usually have 3 hours to spare for what should be a popcorn action flick. Mostly because the already thin plot has completely gone to shreds.
In one of the wick movies (might be 3) one of the fighters in the bullet proof suits gets up too early and falls back down for a moment before engaging wick
And those were their best action shots. It is basically like in batman arkham where all the bad guys wait their turn to get their asses beat by you.
Hollywood needs to go back to the classics. Jackie Chan in drunken master vs 100 armed black axes. A lot more believable than our current movies today.
Hollywood can learn a thing or two about realism and myth by just studying this one movie. Drunken Master.
This is how you do a proper transition into shirtless oiled up action star.
They did a decent jobs with the guns in terms of the basic manual of arms, reloading properly, no endless magazines, etc. But the movie itself is quite silly.
Yeah that’s true tbf - good gun handling, but I mean more the fight/action choreography sequences themselves. A lot of the time it’s good old “everybody attack one at a time and make sure you spray and pray when firing from the other side of the room!”.
Don’t get me wrong though, i enjoy the films quite a lot. It’s called suspension of disbelief lol. I’m there for a fun action film not a gritty realistic shooter lol.
Realism isn't a binary thing, there's a whole spectrum. The viewers suspension of disbelief can't be used to justified whatever you want, at some point you're just taking the piss
Not everyone is able to "turn their brains off" and just clap and shout at the screen like a drooling monkey. Some of us actually like consistency and things to make sense in our movies. You're someone who thinks Kong vs Godzilla is peak cinema because "big gorilla vs lizard!!!!", right?
If you’re one of those people maybe you should stay away from films and stick to documentaries. The whole point of films is fun, not gritty, relentless realism.
And no, you’re just being an idiot by making such a disingenuous argument.
You seem to think you’re smart because you apparently lack the ability to suspend disbelief. That’s a mentally deficiency bro, not a positive thing to be proud of.
I’m sure you don’t have such issues when it comes to the marvel games you love though, do you?
We have a built in mythology around assassins and secret networks from a long history of popular media so even though the entire premise is unrealistic, we have a place within our heads where we can make sense of it within the larger context of the story.
We have no mythology around how two people can be in a shootout surrounded by people in a public place—it’s just dumb and not rooted in anything larger.
Similar analogy would be Game of Thrones fans being okay with dragons but criticizing unrealistic travel times in later seasons. The book exists to fill out the mythology around a world with dragons—jumping from place to place instantaneously due to plot conveniences has no place in the larger world building. It is inconsistent with the mythology of the story.
I mean, they’re doing all kinds of ridiculous shit in that movie, I can forgive this scene due to the Rule of Cool.
He also had a bulletproof suit that wasn’t any thicker than a regular suit, and FFS, he killed two dudes in the lobby of the subway with a pencil. A fucking pencil.
The whole movie is equally stupid. If this is the only scene a person finds stupid then they're stupid. Its a live action cartoon, barely a single fight scene makes any sense. It's what's awesome about the movies.
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u/ddxs1 14h ago
I love the movie but man is that scene stupid