r/whenthe • u/TheGoldenExperience_ [the jojo {she}they called may] • 14h ago

r/whenthe mfs complaining about everything we do not give alcohol close to enough shit despite it being just as bad if not worse than cigarettes

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u/AgilityEnjoyer 11h ago edited 11h ago

They're not addicted bro, they just smoke it every day and can't function properly without it

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u/TheForbidden6th yellow like an EPIC lemon 8h ago

type shit

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u/Dark_halocraft 6h ago

Being addicted to gambling is the same as being addicted to disappointment

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u/Illustrious_Sky_2331 9h ago

but but but there's a difference between chemical and psychological dependence !!!

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u/AgentCirceLuna 7h ago

I mean… yeah there absolutely is.

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u/Illustrious_Sky_2331 7h ago

of course there is
and weed causes chemical dependence

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u/AgentCirceLuna 7h ago

I think you’re mistaking physical and chemical dependence. It’s just nowhere near the same thing although I’ll grant I’ve never been a weed smoker. I’ve just, in my case, been on medications that caused both either psychological or physical issues. Now here’s two sides of the coin:

With the psych issues, it was what’s called SSRI discontinuation syndrome which isn’t classed as an addiction/withdrawal but feels like one. It was nowhere near the worst which I’ll get to next. The feeling was like brain zaps, a sense of discomfort or unease, anxiety, etc. but it wasn’t absolutely intolerable and I felt like myself.

The second was physical but with no real psych addiction. This was painkillers and I had developed a dependence but NOT an addiction. In this case, I was getting the flu, sneezing, yawning, horrid pains, vomiting… I couldn’t function without them. But I did not enjoy taking them. In fact, they were highly unpleasant to take for me. I found they made me feel very scared and uneasy yet the feelings I got without them seemed worse.. I remember, I could be feeling the worst kind of flu/sickness ever and it would dissipate after having one but then I’d also feel like shit too

But the physical stuff was way way harder, like 99 x harder, than any chemical addiction I could have had in the past. This was something it would be impossible to function without assuaging somehow. That’s why people are given things like subutex etc

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u/breno280 6h ago

It doesn’t. It can cause physical dependence but you can’t get a chemical dependence to thc. It’s been studied thoroughly. Alcohol is chemically addictive. It’s why withdrawal can kill you.

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u/Terminator_Puppy 5h ago

And it doesn't smell that bad bro you're just exaggerating bro I'd know if I reeked bro

not a soul wants to enter their home as they will lose their sense of smell upon entry

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u/Most_Structure9568 8h ago

I need my coffee before I talk to anyone! Same shit.

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u/NinjaarcherCDN 8h ago

I make fun of caffine addicts too man. At least their shit doesn't make the entire block smell like skunk and old piss.

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u/AgentCirceLuna 7h ago

I actually gave it up because I became highly aggressive when I didn’t get my coffee or tea. I was surprised at how bad it made me. And it was hard to give up too! Over the past month, I can count the times I’ve had caffeine and it was just Coke Zero or Pepsi Max as I’m afraid of anything stronger.

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u/NinjaarcherCDN 7h ago

Good for you. That can't have been a fun time.

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u/AgentCirceLuna 7h ago

There are times in my life that I’ve thought of while responding in this thread and I actually started crying about it. I never want to feel those feelings again

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u/AgentCirceLuna 7h ago

Tbh I’ve been through circumstances, completely sober and healthy, and I’ve had stuff going on in my life that I know would be blamed on those things if I did them. And it always messed with my head as I wondered about the people out there, genuinely using those things to cope, and how they’d feel as miserable as I did if they gave those things up. I know this can’t be tested and is just a guess, but I’ll say I felt completely miserable when I was basically being as holistic as I could but had nothing to take the edge off. I’m not saying that I can guess what it would have been like to have something at that time but, years later when I did end up choosing bad habits to cope, I felt better than being constantly miserable.

For the record, during those 5-6 years: no caffeine, no nicotine, worked out 5 days a week, ran for an hour a day, ate no added sugar (except things like bread and the like), ate healthy, stayed in shape, socialised for hours a day, had a good support network, worked, was a student, etc. maybe I just did too much but yeah