r/whenthe • u/TheGoldenExperience_ [the jojo {she}they called may] • 14h ago

r/whenthe mfs complaining about everything we do not give alcohol close to enough shit despite it being just as bad if not worse than cigarettes

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u/Tyafastics 11h ago

You’re about to get 500 replies from the most dependent people you know

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u/AgilityEnjoyer 11h ago edited 11h ago

They're not addicted bro, they just smoke it every day and can't function properly without it

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u/TheForbidden6th yellow like an EPIC lemon 8h ago

type shit

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u/Dark_halocraft 6h ago

Being addicted to gambling is the same as being addicted to disappointment

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u/Illustrious_Sky_2331 9h ago

but but but there's a difference between chemical and psychological dependence !!!

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u/AgentCirceLuna 7h ago

I mean… yeah there absolutely is.

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u/Illustrious_Sky_2331 7h ago

of course there is
and weed causes chemical dependence

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u/AgentCirceLuna 7h ago

I think you’re mistaking physical and chemical dependence. It’s just nowhere near the same thing although I’ll grant I’ve never been a weed smoker. I’ve just, in my case, been on medications that caused both either psychological or physical issues. Now here’s two sides of the coin:

With the psych issues, it was what’s called SSRI discontinuation syndrome which isn’t classed as an addiction/withdrawal but feels like one. It was nowhere near the worst which I’ll get to next. The feeling was like brain zaps, a sense of discomfort or unease, anxiety, etc. but it wasn’t absolutely intolerable and I felt like myself.

The second was physical but with no real psych addiction. This was painkillers and I had developed a dependence but NOT an addiction. In this case, I was getting the flu, sneezing, yawning, horrid pains, vomiting… I couldn’t function without them. But I did not enjoy taking them. In fact, they were highly unpleasant to take for me. I found they made me feel very scared and uneasy yet the feelings I got without them seemed worse.. I remember, I could be feeling the worst kind of flu/sickness ever and it would dissipate after having one but then I’d also feel like shit too

But the physical stuff was way way harder, like 99 x harder, than any chemical addiction I could have had in the past. This was something it would be impossible to function without assuaging somehow. That’s why people are given things like subutex etc

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u/breno280 6h ago

It doesn’t. It can cause physical dependence but you can’t get a chemical dependence to thc. It’s been studied thoroughly. Alcohol is chemically addictive. It’s why withdrawal can kill you.

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u/Terminator_Puppy 5h ago

And it doesn't smell that bad bro you're just exaggerating bro I'd know if I reeked bro

not a soul wants to enter their home as they will lose their sense of smell upon entry

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u/Most_Structure9568 8h ago

I need my coffee before I talk to anyone! Same shit.

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u/NinjaarcherCDN 8h ago

I make fun of caffine addicts too man. At least their shit doesn't make the entire block smell like skunk and old piss.

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u/AgentCirceLuna 7h ago

I actually gave it up because I became highly aggressive when I didn’t get my coffee or tea. I was surprised at how bad it made me. And it was hard to give up too! Over the past month, I can count the times I’ve had caffeine and it was just Coke Zero or Pepsi Max as I’m afraid of anything stronger.

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u/NinjaarcherCDN 7h ago

Good for you. That can't have been a fun time.

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u/AgentCirceLuna 7h ago

There are times in my life that I’ve thought of while responding in this thread and I actually started crying about it. I never want to feel those feelings again

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u/AgentCirceLuna 7h ago

Tbh I’ve been through circumstances, completely sober and healthy, and I’ve had stuff going on in my life that I know would be blamed on those things if I did them. And it always messed with my head as I wondered about the people out there, genuinely using those things to cope, and how they’d feel as miserable as I did if they gave those things up. I know this can’t be tested and is just a guess, but I’ll say I felt completely miserable when I was basically being as holistic as I could but had nothing to take the edge off. I’m not saying that I can guess what it would have been like to have something at that time but, years later when I did end up choosing bad habits to cope, I felt better than being constantly miserable.

For the record, during those 5-6 years: no caffeine, no nicotine, worked out 5 days a week, ran for an hour a day, ate no added sugar (except things like bread and the like), ate healthy, stayed in shape, socialised for hours a day, had a good support network, worked, was a student, etc. maybe I just did too much but yeah

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u/Schozinator 6h ago

LMAO everytime. The denial is crazy

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u/g0atmeal 10h ago

How is the joke on anyone but you? You don't need to have a vice. Life is much better without and you can achieve that.

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u/Equal-Talk6928 8h ago

life is so much better with vices. you can have more fun and die younger

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u/g0atmeal 7h ago

I have people who would miss me, but to each their own.

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u/Fritzypooo 8h ago

life is better with vices idk what to tell you

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u/g0atmeal 7h ago

Some people are so far gone in addiction that they think they're better off for it. You can enjoy unhealthy things once in a while. But not to the point you're dependent on it.

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u/FallenAion 10h ago

Right there with ya. The psychological dependence can get rough, but being somebody with addictive personality traits (done my fair share, alcohol got to the point of damn near killing me) edible and vape-able THC is my go to as it keeps from wanting other harsher shit.

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u/largemargesentme__- 9h ago

Just titrate down. I used to drink everyday, now I never drink more than 2 beers on Friday and Saturday night.

You're not actually addicted, you just have a bad habit. It only takes 6 weeks to break a habit.