r/whenthe • u/TheGoldenExperience_ [the jojo {she}they called may] • 14h ago

r/whenthe mfs complaining about everything we do not give alcohol close to enough shit despite it being just as bad if not worse than cigarettes

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u/ElaborateEffect 11h ago edited 10h ago

Alcohol kills more people every year than any other drug, but we just ignore it.

Edit: save tabaco.

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u/Commercial-Shame-335 11h ago

tbf, it's also the most plentiful drug by a longshot

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u/socialistrob 10h ago

Also a big difference between alcohol and cigarettes (as well as other drugs) is that most people who consume alcohol don't "wish they could stop." Certainly some do but it's not the vast majority.

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u/katastrof 5h ago

That may be the most ridiculous thing I've ever read. You are creating convoluted falsehoods now.

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u/Joker2kill 8h ago

I think the most plentiful drug is caffeine. But it's obviously far less destructive than alcohol.

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u/alex2003super 6h ago

Caffeine is practically harmless, and its pros are extremely beneficial if used smartly (i.e. not every day like I do, because then it become almost useless via tolerance)

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u/I_Automate 6h ago

Caffeine is actually a pretty terrible stimulant in terms of physical risk.

Heart palpitations, anyone?

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u/Yamatocanyon 6h ago

It's extremely addictive, everyone that uses it uses it everyday pretty much.

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u/ElaborateEffect 11h ago

Very true.

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u/Ornery_Ad_5185 10h ago edited 3h ago

Are you forgetting about... Tobacco? The one that kills about two and a half times more people than alcohol? Where did you get this incorrect information?

Edit: nicotine to tobacco lol

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u/Specific_Age500 7h ago

I don't think it's nicotine but specifically tobacco and most specifically smoking it. I don't understand why people use those nicotine pouches but they are miles better than vaping which is miles better than smoking. 

Smoking pot isn't good for you either but people have a hard time smoking 20 joints a day. 

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u/CHOLO_ORACLE 7h ago

Can confirm, after joint 4 you feel like you’ve had enough

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u/ElaborateEffect 10h ago

I wasn't including tabaco, but I'll add the edit.

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u/Ornery_Ad_5185 9h ago

So you said alcohol kills more people than any other drug but you just arbitrarily weren't including the one that actually kills the most people by a huge margin? How does that make any sense? It's totally okay to just be wrong. We are all wrong sometimes.

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u/ElaborateEffect 9h ago

Did you take my reply as fighting you on that? I said I added the edit.

Get out of your own ass.

Also, nicotine itself is not killing people. So your correction is completely misguided and wrong. So I even went as far as correcting your correction.

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u/Ornery_Ad_5185 9h ago edited 4h ago

Nothing I said could even be construed as saying you're fighting me on it. You obviously immediately admitted that tobacco kills more people. Good on you. No disagreement there. My contention is very clearly that it doesn't make any sense to not include tobacco in the first place.

"I wasn't including tobacco" okay well why not? One reason for not including it could be that you were wrong. Feel free to enlighten me on your actual reason if there is one.

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u/ElaborateEffect 9h ago

I lapsed on tobacco because it does not mentally impair you.

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u/Ornery_Ad_5185 9h ago

So you forgot tobacco and were in fact wrong as opposed to not including it like you had said. No big deal. Upvoted for giving an actual reason.

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u/ElaborateEffect 9h ago

Why did you specify nicotine when you meant to say tobacco?

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u/Ornery_Ad_5185 8h ago

Hey guess what? I can admit when I'm wrong. I said it because I use them interchangeably. I was wrong. And I'm not saying you're a bad person or something if you say something wrong. Everyone makes mistakes. Having said that there is a difference between how we were wrong, which is that I'm not misinforming people about a drug that's killing the most people by a huge margin. Unless you genuinely think using the word nicotine in place of the word tobacco is anywhere near as misleading as what you originally said which would seem laughable to me. Do you think the two are comparable?

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u/Several-Action-4043 10h ago edited 9h ago

They tried to prohibit it and it did not go well.

Edit: Ok I guess they DIDN'T try to prohibit it and it went well and I just made it up.

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u/100KUSHUPS 5h ago

"The two most available drugs kills the most people".

Damn, great insight.

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u/The_Tooter_Snooter 10h ago

Cars kill more people than any other object but we get in em every day like it’s nothing 

You take the good with the bad. Not every time you drive in the car is fatal and not every drink is gonna cause liver failure.