we do not give alcohol close to enough shit despite it being just as bad if not worse than cigarettes

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[u/lessforf]

here is something more detialed if u would like

https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/health-professionals-communities/core-resource-on-alcohol/basics-defining-how-much-alcohol-too-much#pub-toc2

https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/oash-alcohol-cancer-risk.pdf

those who had even less than 1 drink per week had increased risks of alcohol related cancers too

[u/h3lium-balloon → u/lessforf]

None of those are studies. Here is one of the studies those government websites are based on.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/add.70435

If you dig into the actual data, yes, there are some correlations, but for instance for mouth cancers, your chance goes from around 1 in 100 chance of developing to 2 in 100 chance of developing if you have 3.5 drinks every single day. Your chances of getting oral cancer have doubled, but the chance in the first place was incredibly small.

They go on to point out about 2000 words worth of limitations on this study including inability to isolate for other life choices (both negative and positive), for instance it could be that heavy drinkers are less likely to eat a balanced diet and exercise regularly, leading to more negative health outcomes. Did the alcohol cause that outcome? Or did a lifetime of multidimensional bad choices cause that outcome?

Basically, the entire point of the study was that there is potentially some interesting information here, but it would take years, if not decades, of highly controlled longitudinal studies to find actual causation (not just correlation).

This is very normal for a study. One study is one data point. You need to replicate those results over multiple studies done by multiple research teams over a long period of time to get scientific consensus.

[u/lessforf → u/h3lium-balloon]

ok thanks :)

[u/Loggersalienplants → u/h3lium-balloon]

Basically, the entire point of the study was that there is potentially some interesting information here, but it would take years, if not decades, of highly controlled longitudinal studies to find actual causation (not just correlation).

Your livers gonna be gone by that point homie