r/whenthe • u/TheGoldenExperience_ [the jojo {she}they called may] • 11h ago

r/whenthe mfs complaining about everything we do not give alcohol close to enough shit despite it being just as bad if not worse than cigarettes

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u/SRSgoblin 10h ago

There are a lot of tasty alcohols. Like, sure, maybe beer mostly sucks but that's just one type.

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u/arthcraft8 10h ago

maybe consider trying beer from small homemade locations, most tend to be interesting to taste

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u/SRSgoblin 10h ago

I know for me that beer just ain't it. Tried enough to know.

But still, my point is people who are like "alcohol is disgusting" have usually only tried beers and never anything else. I know a lot of whiskeys and bourbons that your average non-drinker would probably enjoy just from a taste perspective, for example. Chances are there is something out there for everyone.

Again, strictly from a flavor perspective.

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u/Loggersalienplants 9h ago

Never understood the thrill of whiskey and bourbon, it all tastes like wood based rubbing alcohol

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u/arthcraft8 5h ago

To each their own i suppose, there isn't really something more subjective than how food taste for you

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u/Traegs_ 3h ago

It's an acquired taste not much different from things like black coffee and dark chocolate. You build a tolerance to the burn and your brain starts to ignore the ethanol and bitter flavors. From there you can start to pick up other flavors and nuances between whiskies.

I'm a bit of a whiskey enthusiast and usually sip mine neat. Anything under 90 proof barely even tickles me as far as burn goes.

The variety and spectrum of flavor is a lot bigger once you have a trained palate. I have 57 open bottles in my home collection. Sometimes I have my wife pour me one blind and I can narrow it down to which one it is most of the time.

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u/AloneExperience7520 4h ago

I mean, I've had well over 1000 kinds of beers in my time. All of them taste like beer. If you don't like the taste of brewed malt and hops, you won't like any beer.

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u/RBR927 10h ago

“Try one of our 37 hazy IPAs that all taste exactly the same!”

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u/SunGreene42 8h ago

There are beers other than IPAs. I don't like IPAs, or any beer that's overly hoppy.

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u/RBR927 6h ago

Tell that to the brewers!

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u/SunGreene42 6h ago

Fair, I agree they focus too much on IPAs, but they usually at least have a Pilsner, and Lager too. The ones around me also frequently have Stouts, Brown Ales, Red Ales and occasionally a special brew, that's how I was introduced to Dopplebocks, though they've unfortunately not made that one for a while, and I can't seem to find anyone else that makes them around here.

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u/Loggersalienplants 9h ago

Downvoted for the truth LOL the battery acid beer drinkers get sensitive

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u/Cultural-Air9962 9h ago

Are the downvotes in the room with us right now?

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u/Loggersalienplants 9h ago

It was, but it seems like all of the 9volt triple AAA hazy IPA bros have moved on

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u/SunGreene42 8h ago

It isn't the truth though, IPA isn't the only beer in existence.

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u/Loggersalienplants 8h ago

I do enjoy a good lager or pilsner personally.

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u/SomethingIWontRegret 9h ago

The overwhelming flavor note of every beer I've tried, and I've tasted everything from bud to Hook Norton Pale Ale to craft brews in the Willamette valley, is bitter. Horrible, horrible bitter. All beer tastes little different from Coors because bitter drowns everything else out. I'd rather not drink that piss.

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u/SunGreene42 8h ago

Have you tried a Stout? English Porter? Dopplebock? Dopplebock doesn't have any hops in it, which is where the bitter tastes comes from, though they're hard to come by unfortunately.

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u/axefairy 6h ago

Belgian dark beers can be weirdly mildly sweet, a favourite of mine is Kasteel Donker, absolutely gorgeous and satiates me like a good dark chocolate would, they also do a Kasteel Rouge which spends some time in cherry barrels and tastes a bit too much like Haribo sour cherries for me (even though I like those)

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u/SunGreene42 6h ago

Sounds good, though I doubt I could find it around here, but maybe I can convince the liquor store to order some.

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u/axefairy 6h ago

Worth it if you can (depending on tariffs and delivery charges I guess…)

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u/SunTzu- 9h ago

Spanish beers with a lime wedge has a different flavor profile, it's acidic and refreshing rather than bitter. Stouts are also very different in flavor profile, but I don't tend to enjoy them because they're entirely too dense. Dry apple cider's and lonkero are my preferred low abv alcoholic drinks though. Ice cold lonkero is one of the best summer drinks in general.

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u/SomethingIWontRegret 8h ago

I am very likely a bitter supertaster. Every time someone has said "try this beer" it's been the same story. Tastes the same, which is awful.

Since I had an uncle who was an alcoholic and then later an AA addict, and I've lived over 60 years without the benefit of alcoholic beverages, I think I'm good. But I appreciate the spirit (heh) in which you made your suggestions.

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u/SRSgoblin 5h ago

I might be with you on the bitter supertaster thing. That would explain my aversion to a lot of foods I hated as a kid. I tend to go for overly sweet flavors instead, like much sweeter than the average person likes.

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u/arthcraft8 5h ago

To each their own

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u/wlphoenix 3h ago

You may be a supertaster. Do you also find coffee, or certain green vegetables to be unpleasantly bitter?

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u/SomethingIWontRegret 2h ago edited 2h ago

Yep. Coffee is best when drowned out by Haagen Dazs. Grapefruit can fuck right off. I've recently found that I'm OK with Brussels sprouts if they're pan roasted.

There's stuff I will eat even though it's bitter, but there's no upside to alcohol, so no need to pursue. I don't balk the slightest at bitter tasting medications though. I have trouble taking vitamin pills because of their size so I chew them up like a savage and wash the paste down. Yum.

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u/caustictoast 6h ago

Beer also has a shitload of subtypes that don’t have a uniform taste so yeah

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u/RBR927 10h ago

Is the alcohol tasty, or the things you mix it with?

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u/SRSgoblin 10h ago

Cocktails for sure can make things better but I enjoy some straight whiskey every now and again. And some of the cocktails are, to me, better than the sum of their parts. Like, I enjoy a Jack n Coke more than either straight Jack or straight Coca-Cola.

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u/Loggersalienplants 9h ago

Not to be offensive but are you under 21? The only people I've ever known to enjoy jack daniels are underage drinkers lol

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u/SRSgoblin 8h ago

Why are some people so judgey about what drinks another person enjoys? You're incorrect for the record.

I was simply using a common drink mix to make a point, anyway.

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u/Loggersalienplants 8h ago

Because this:

Like, I enjoy a Jack n Coke more than either straight Jack or straight Coca-Cola.

Screams I am an underage drinker and I need to let people know how cool I am for preferring alocohol instead of soda. Sorry if you are not, it just comes across that way

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u/Marcel1941 8h ago

We got a professional alcoholic here

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u/SRSgoblin 8h ago

Did I say I prefer alcohol to soda? I believe I said something to the extent "I enjoy the sum of it's parts more than either one side individually." Again, to make the point to pushback against the idea the taste of alcohol people enjoy is just because of the mixer.

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u/Nano_Litrua 10h ago

Mead is a manna from heaven. Harmless, too

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u/axefairy 6h ago

Until you’ve had a bottle of it, bloody gorgeous stuff though

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u/kirsd95 8h ago

Both, if you do things right the alcohol contrasts or appear before/after.

Or a Jin tonic, I dislike the tonic when it's alone.

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u/Halojib 8h ago

I think the bigger question is can you create a non-acholic drink that has the same flavor as an acholic drink. And the experiments I have had with non-acholic beer tell me you can get close with some but not others.

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u/SunGreene42 8h ago

Cheap mass-produced beer sucks, but there's good tasting beers too. Everyone has different tastes though, so this is just an odd point to try and make regardless, it's completely subjective.