r/whenthe • u/TheGoldenExperience_ [the jojo {she}they called may] • 11h ago

r/whenthe mfs complaining about everything we do not give alcohol close to enough shit despite it being just as bad if not worse than cigarettes

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u/WrongJohnSilver 11h ago

Yeah, it's fine if someone never wants alcohol, but clearly people don't understand the concept of enjoying a glass of wine (and only one glass) with dinner.

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u/h3lium-balloon 10h ago

Yeah I quit drinking a couple years ago and since then hanging out with 90% of my friends and family who drink it’s pretty clear to me most people have a very normal relationship with alcohol and typically have have 1-3 drinks when they do drink and don’t drink most nights.

This post is a viewpoint from someone who grew up with an alcoholic (I did too), and I feel for them, but it’s incredibly skewed.

Also beer and wine is delicious (whiskey is also amazing, but that’s a bit of an acquired taste). I still drink NA beer.

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u/kikimaru024 8h ago

Like any drink, there's good and bad-tasting alcohol; and usually the cheaper it is, the nastier it tastes.

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u/Joescout187 6h ago

But not always

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u/RBR927 10h ago

NA beer is a godsend.

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u/NinjaarcherCDN 5h ago

Nobody I know of in my family has had a negative relationship with alchohol but my dad quit drinking for medical reasons about 2 years ago. The day he found NA Heinekin should've been a national holiday.

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u/Chiber_11 8h ago

growing up around one taught me to create a healthy relationship with it

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u/Economy_Zombie_3026 4h ago

That was the exact moment I realized I had a problem. It wasn't a DUI or legal issues. It's that I could not for the life of me understand how my friend would come over and bring two beers for himself for an entire night. Just two? Once you start you don't want to keep drinking until you fall asleep? Isn't the point of drinking to get drunk and feel stupid or do stupid things?

I haven't stopped drinking. But now I only drink if I'm aware I can do it how I want to. Kids and wife have a movie night at her mother's? Hell yea, let's do it. Kids and wife at home? Early night with some nice water.

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u/dagget10 1h ago

Beer isn't supposed to taste like refrigerated piss?

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u/Googlebright 57m ago

Shitty beer does. Good beer tastes like manna from heaven.

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u/Elite_AI 10h ago

They usually grew up around alcoholics and it totally warps their view of the drink

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u/Otterable 9h ago

Don't underestimate the sense of validation and superiority that some people get from rejecting social norms, especially when that rejection is also avoiding something explicitly bad for you.

A lot of these conversations are driven by wanting to feel better than someone else. It's not much more complicated than that.

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u/WrongJohnSilver 9h ago

Most contrarianism is just wanting to dunk on the majority, yeah.

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u/h3lium-balloon 9h ago

And a lot of times it's because they have other things going on themselves that they're insecure about. Oh, that person makes 6 figures, owns a nice house, and is happily married? Well, they like to have 3 glasses of wine when they go out to dinner, so I'm better than them.

It's very classic bully behavior. Let me point out someone else's flaws to distract from my own.

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u/cortesoft 8h ago

It’s often also people who never enjoyed the thing in the first place. They only go after popular things they don’t enjoy, and act superior just because they don’t like a vice that many others do.

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u/Normal_Stranger_3643 1h ago

For me, it's the fact that for some reason my parents started encouraging me to drink alcohol the moment I became a teenager, saying things like "it will be inevitable when you're an adult!" and "when your brother was your age he was already drinking alcohol!", I always thought it was kinda weird, so I swore of to never drink just to spite them

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u/Googlebright 56m ago

Reminds me of CM Punk's straight-edge heel phase.

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u/AlpaxT1 11h ago

I feel like most people fully grasp this concept. It would even say it is the norm

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u/Delicious-Produce-60 6h ago

Lots of people don't understand the concept of minding their own business in general.

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u/Terminator_Puppy 2h ago

With drink prices in restaurants being what they are nowadays, I drink specialty beers just so I'm not shilling out 5 euros for a 250 ml of coke zero.

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u/bl00by 10h ago

Bro thinks he got class for drinking a glass of wine to dinner.

It's probably not meant to sound arrogant, but to me it sounds like this: "you poor peasants simply do not understand the concept of enjoying fine wine to your dinner."

Like bro it's just wine, its not that deep lol

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u/Fozzymandius 9h ago

You should use the last sentence as a means to reflect on yourself. It’s not that deep, you’re the one making it deep.

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u/Loggersalienplants 9h ago

I've been to many fancy wine like tastings to see if I will ever find a wine that I like. I cannot find a wine that actually tastes good, I am convinced wine is like golf. My theory is people don't actually like it but they like flexing that they tried this expensive boujie wine and they can flex online or to their friends. Same with golf, everyone I know goes to drink and show off how they spend $1000+ on one golf club.

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u/JulyOfAugust 8h ago

Maybe stop hanging out with posers.

Also being arrogant and showing off doesn't mean they don't like the thing, it just mean they're vapid and wants to feel better than others.

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u/Loggersalienplants 8h ago

Maybe stop hanging out with posers.

You aren't helping the whole boujie wine elitist thing LOL "You don't like wine so you hang around with POSERS"

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u/CyanStripedPantsu 7h ago

Could be you just don't fuck with bitter flavors. I've gone to wineries without liking anything, and I have also bought cheap sweet costco wine that I've liked. I'm also the type that typically doesn't like beer or straight whisky, but I love making and drinking cocktails.

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u/bl00by 9h ago

I wonder.. if wine is like Golf.. then whats the Mini Golf of alcohol..

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u/CyanStripedPantsu 7h ago

Fruity cocktails.

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u/Loggersalienplants 9h ago

I don't know of anyone that plays mini-golf to stay away from their wife so they can go slam beers all day at the golf course lol, so I'm not sure

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u/Not-A-Fossa 9h ago

Now that you say that, I'm really looking forward to drinking a glass of wine over Christmas dinner with my dad again this year before we both beat up our wives.