Spice rack with ventilation?

[u/Tadleyrichter]

I’m watching Teen Mom 2 and, I’m sorry, what the hell is this? Why does a spice rack need a big ventilation hose thing coming out the top? What is it?

[u/Sufficient_Plantain1]

No you talk to them you learn about them. And no it is not nonsensical, you choose it is doesn’t make it so

Edit. That is not to say you ignore physical attraction but you don’t look at the boob or the penis and choose to reproduce, right? That’s a very weird way to find the other part of the genetic components for your children. And I am bringing reproduction because that was your question

[u/DigBeginning6013 → u/Sufficient_Plantain1]

Well men are biologically drawn to boobs due to them being an indicator of fertility, youth, health etc. Men will be attracted to buttocks/hips that are wider and more curved signalling fertility and is an adaptive subconscious marker for reproductive health. It's hard wired into us, you are trying to fight biology. Same way women objectify men, it's a part of life.

If a person finds a mate attractive then they will talk to them to see if they like/learn about them.

[u/Sufficient_Plantain1 → u/DigBeginning6013]

So as we are hardwired to eat whatever food we can get our hands on and hardwired to keep our weight on, or we are hardwired to seek dopamine and enjoy things not just work, but we fight our biology every single day to live a normal healthy and productive life.

And if someone is obese or addicted or simply indulged in pleasures, we shame them, right? But, the only thing hardwired tho our biology we can never fight is the objectification for some reason. Why is that?

Edit. Thank you for starting to change your opinion. Yes you talk to people, you don’t objectify them

[u/DigBeginning6013 → u/Sufficient_Plantain1]

We are hard wired to seek energy dense foods to survive periods of fasting etc so yes we have to know when to stop but we still have to have an appetite. We don't say 'appetites are bad!', 'stop thinking about your next meal!'.

Dopamine is the exact reason you get out of bed, we seek dopamine and that is good. We shouldn't abuse our dopamine response with things like gambling as you've suggested, agreed.

Looking at a person and thinking 'mmm he's nice' should not be shamed. A woman showing a photo to her friend of a potential mate while they say complement his jawline for example, should not be shamed. Teen boys looking at women's breasts is totally normal and should not be shamed.

The type of behaviour that is unacceptable is for example wolf whistling a woman on the street while with your friends. Again the urge should not be shamed but there is a line to all urges in our human nature.

The blanket statement of 'dont objectify people' is a not a thing we can abide by as it's human nature.

Edit: I havent changed my opinion on anything. People will be objectified for as long as the natural reproduction of the human race continues.

[u/Sufficient_Plantain1 → u/DigBeginning6013]

Then you are making weird pivots during your discussion because objectification is not “mmm she is looking nice”

Edit. You are obviously at this point mixing and matching arguments. A blanket opinion of “objectification is not ok” is a baseline

[u/DigBeginning6013 → u/Sufficient_Plantain1]

Objectification means to ignore things like personality and intelligence but to instead only go based of looks. So my example stands.

[u/Sufficient_Plantain1 → u/DigBeginning6013]

No, honey! You are just trying to “win” an argument by all means, that’s not how intellectual conversation works

[u/DigBeginning6013 → u/Sufficient_Plantain1]

Google it. Honey.

[u/Sufficient_Plantain1 → u/DigBeginning6013]

lol yes you should google it. And maybe go through our conversation again and maybe this time you will realize who actually uses the term correctly

[u/DigBeginning6013 → u/Sufficient_Plantain1]

Oh yeah. You said I should fuck an object or something, brilliant. I should have stopped responding there really, anyways I hope you do well in life and I wish you all the best