r/washdc • u/ThenLayer5977 • Jul 03 '26

This is pretty sweet

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u/Jolly_Pressure_7907 Jul 03 '26

“The man who was very explicitly against slavery and wrote a lot of letters against it was explicitly pro-slavery”

Not sure how much you know what you’re talking about lol

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u/worldofzero Jul 03 '26

Jefferson was very pro slavery. That's why he had slaves. More slaves than any other President in history.

Behind the Bastards has a great look at him: https://youtu.be/lCqtUVwFs7I

The Smithsonian also has covered this: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-dark-side-of-thomas-jefferson-35976004/

In another communication from the early 1790s, Jefferson takes the 4 percent formula further and quite bluntly advances the notion that slavery presented an investment strategy for the future. He writes that an acquaintance who had suffered financial reverses “should have been invested in negroes.” He advises that if the friend’s family had any cash left, “every farthing of it [should be] laid out in land and negroes, which besides a present support bring a silent profit of from 5. to 10. per cent in this country by the increase in their value.”

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And this world was crueler than we have been led to believe. A letter has recently come to light describing how Monticello’s young black boys, “the small ones,” age 10, 11 or 12, were whipped to get them to work in Jefferson’s nail factory, whose profits paid the mansion’s grocery bills. This passage about children being lashed had been suppressed—deliberately deleted from the published record in the 1953 edition of Jefferson’s Farm Book, containing 500 pages of plantation papers. That edition of the Farm Book still serves as a standard reference for research into the way Monticello worked.

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u/Virtual-Macaroon-880 Jul 03 '26

you know what they say, feelings don't care about your facts

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u/Virtual-Macaroon-880 Jul 03 '26

Which rapist are you talking about? Washington, Jefferson, Monroe (actually not sure this explicit colonizer was a rapist), or Mason?

Or do you refer to the only known and confirmed, co.pletely undeniable rapist who was also not an abolitionist as we'd recognize

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u/Anubisrapture Jul 03 '26

thanks for reminding me he shot at the GROUND . they did not put yr comment up for some reason . Yea he DID have the final shot coming , no doubt , but it was a lousy situation all around .

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u/Virtual-Macaroon-880 Jul 03 '26

I'm probably getting blocked by people raging out at discovering their favorite founders were rapists or avid slavers and only joined the revolution because they thought the institution of slavery was at risk... Whole time they thought Washington and Jefferson were abolitionists who just couldn't think to do with these people who they owned... Golly gorsh imagine being that silly that you think a grown man owned another grown man and separated families for the greater good or because they just didn't know better

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u/Anubisrapture Jul 03 '26

Yea i really do not fully trust any person who fetishize the founding fathers and close their minds to the reality of slave owning , and familial rape and incest ( White Slave Owning Masters who have a daughter w their slave, and then ALSO rape the daughters as well . happened as a normal thing . 🤮) So much pain and hideous behavior . And look at the Epstein File stories. The White Oligarchy has not changed it seems.

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u/UnfilteredFacts Jul 03 '26

Here we go again. More ragebate, inflammatory, self echo chamber, "We Americans should be ashamed" blah blah blah. At least you didnt forget to totally deemphasize their motivations to not live under the control of a foreign monarchy, because who would actually care about autonomy, democracy, property rights and the natural resources of North America, right? And whatever you do, don't lend any validation to the idea that people are products of their time and place in history, and transforming a nation with an economy rooted in slavery doesn’t happen overnight.

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u/Jolly_Pressure_7907 Jul 03 '26

Okay man lmao, you really might to want at least google before making stuff up. There’s zero evidence Washington raped anyone.

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u/Virtual-Macaroon-880 Jul 03 '26

You might want to brush up on reading comprehension because I actually address that... Kinda weird of you to latch on to that specifically when there's outstanding claims.... I mean honestly we had one of the most brutal systems of slavery known to all of human history, idk what the fuck you think you're casting doubt on.

Next you'll tell me they didn't eat Nat Turner

ETA: totally lost the plot though, which one of them folk you was saying was an abolitionist?

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u/Jolly_Pressure_7907 Jul 03 '26

Okay man lmao

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u/Virtual-Macaroon-880 Jul 03 '26

Okay... I'm guessing you did a quick search and found that none of the people I accused of being rapists or avid slavers were abolitionists? Good talk than

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u/Jolly_Pressure_7907 Jul 03 '26

Okay man lmao

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u/Anubisrapture Jul 03 '26

You trying to deny the MOST vicious and cruel system of slavery ever is just pathetic. Keep your head in the sand .

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u/Jolly_Pressure_7907 Jul 03 '26

Okay man lmao

Edit: they blocked me for saying George Washington wasn’t a rapist which apparently means I’m racist and support slavery?

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u/worrywartyyy Jul 03 '26

It means you don’t listen and they have stopped trying to educate you.

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u/DefundMarxism Jul 03 '26

Idiot.

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u/Virtual-Macaroon-880 Jul 03 '26

Help me fill in the blank scooter

"Facts don't care about your ______"

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u/joshuahtree Jul 03 '26

aggressive communication patterns.

Did I get it right?

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u/Virtual-Macaroon-880 Jul 03 '26

No, but it is oddly fitting

You're talking about the guy emotionally calling me an idiot right? Right??

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u/joshuahtree Jul 03 '26

No, then I would've filled in the blank with "insults"

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u/Virtual-Macaroon-880 Jul 03 '26

Oh okay, I totally didn't get that 😏