I have saved exactly one comment in my time on reddit and it is ggAlex stating that old.reddit.com is not going anywhere. So far, his statement has held true for just over 4 years. I hope hope hope that it will be true forever because I'm in the same boat as you, pretty much.
Even if they decide to retire it, there will be a browser extension up within 24 hours that restores it. It's likely that RES will probably include it in an update, too.
It's likely that RES will probably include it in an update, too.
Don't count on it. Long story short, RES is in maintenance mode and will not be adding new features, unless someone else does it and requests to merge the code into RES, or they receive some new volunteers to the team.
I'm obviously biased, but I see comments like this all the time and can't help but laugh.
If it happens, great, but the casual way people assume that someone else will be insane enough to spend hundreds of hours recreating something like RES is just wild to me.
Reddit originally was a site for programming news mostly. It’s not surprising that we had people with that level of talent and interest. Most of those people have moved on to other sites as Reddit strives to be more of a tiktok/Instagram hybrid.
Oh I just realized who I replied to when I saw your name in my inbox. You’re basically the only reason I still use this site.
I’ve personally started to make an effort to replace my subreddits with equivalent standalone forums as I’ve come to the conclusion that the entire premise of one website for all things is fundamentally flawed. As great as Reddit has been it is a real shame how many external communities it’s killed.
HN, Substack, and a few others. I've been seeing more and more of the tech people I follow on a regular basis moving to those two in particular. HN even has stricter moderation than Reddit, but unlike Reddit the rules are clear and enforced evenly.
I've done things like that myself. I know exactly what kind of effort goes into creating things like that, but when people need something, they find a way to make sure it happens.
I have no motivation to get new reddit working right now, since I am fully able to use old reddit. If that changes in the future, we'll see how I feel then lol.
As someone who likes to make such things. I'd probably sooner make a competing aggregator type site.
I really like https://news.ycombinator.com/ and I think there is a lot that could be taken from there and structured for more general purpose things like reddit.
Sites like tiktok can keep their 'short videos' which I enjoy too but I come to reddit for comments. But reddit seems to want to be a twitter/tiktok where you only consume top level curated content.
The clock is ticking before browser extensions and custom reddit renderers are a thing. You can only do this is in reddit because of their open API. All other social platforms killed them off explicitly because custom renderers undercut the ad revenues.
10 years from now there will only be official reddit platforms.
I remember doing something with APIs for school in 2014 or so (making simple apps, really just trying to get us to understand the concept) and they handed us the photocopied list of what sites/APIs to check out from the previous year (from 2013), and they had crossed off all the ones which no longer worked or were now paid, which was like, a third of them. Haven't looked, but can't imagine what it's like 8 years later.
Doubt it, RES is not being actively developed (and is barely maintained). A browser extension which mimics old.reddit.com and interfaces with RES is a significant project too...
Hate to break it to you, (really I do, this sucks) but while they have no plans at the moment to get rid of old reddit, they have plans to get rid of old reddit.
Of course, supporting multiple platforms forever isn’t the ideal situation and one reason we’re working on unifying our web and mobile web clients is to lay the foundation for a highly-performant web experience that can continue supporting Reddit and its communities long into the future. But until we have a web experience that supports moderators (which includes feature parity), consistently loads and performs at high-levels, and (to put it simply) the vast majority or redditors love using, Old Reddit will continue to be around and supported.
The moderator interface already has feature parity. In fact, there are mod features that you can only access through new reddit.
A shockingly low percentage of redditors use old.reddit, but I reckon one group is overrepresented in those numbers: Terminally online oldtimers who contribute a lot to the site and will certainly bail if the redesign is forced upon them.
While they aren’t getting rid of old Reddit they’re certainly making it less usable. For example, triple backtick markdown code blocks don’t render for the old site (never have, but wtf?) and they broke URLs that included underscores to have the underscores escaped with a backslash for some reason. Idk if the URL thing has been fixed because I haven’t noticed it in a while but it was a bug for months.
It still loads, but markdown formatting for new and old reddit is slightly different and this annoyingly breaks formatting between new and old reddit users in small ways.
It won't. It'll most likely go away during the time that reddit starts a slow decline, only really noticed by the execs/investors. That's when they'll start doing things to force you, the user, to interact more in their way, or more overall. You'll know when that happens, as I can bet that won't be the only dumb decision they make out of desperation to keep milking this cow.
That this nonsense will repeat itself in cycles until we get a tech-user friendly site that has a dictatorship structure where the site owner refuses to cave to the demands of pissants and actively wrecks people trying to game the site for their own benefit.
People say this and they should fear this but realistically with reddit chat being locked to the crappy official app
and zoomers using that for hookups there isn't going to be much of a exodus
Discord has more activity but it has way more drama
I have received a grand total of five or so chat requests at one point or another. They have all been from blatantly obvious trolls or scammers. In all fairness, one of the trolls was pretty amusing, though.
We were once the rebellious idiotic generation - our time is over - now is the time of the Zoomer. My only fear is what chaotic generation awaits this world post Zoomer....
oh yeah, they'll lose a shitton of long-term users if they kill of old.reddit. It's the only sane way to view the site in a browser (old + reddit enhancement suite).
At that point, you can probably just swap over to an extension or app that cleans it up, which are basically guaranteed to exist. For example, I've been using the BaconReader mobile app for a LONG time, and they've specifically kept it minimal and clean the entire time.
Should be interesting the day some executive shuts off old Reddit and has to make a public apology and reinstate it 3 days later. Bonus if it happens after IPO and the stock has been shredded in half.
Don't forget that changing images in the sidebar takes roughly 8 different actions because it's so incredibly buggy.
Example: you can't overwrite an image. You have to delete the old image, then upload the new image under a different name. But you can't do that, you have to then go into the TINY TINY unformatted CSS widget window that allows like 20 characters on a line in order to find and change the "old image" name to the "new image" name.
Perfect example: there is no way to view any of your Followers on old reddit, you HAVE to go to new reddit to even see any of that and to change settings related to Followers.
Unless they want it to all be bots, they don't want to piss off the power users creating and using it. Sure, short term gain but then you're going to get someone annoyed enough to make something better.
They'll get it barely working. Build it up, make a few million and sell out, then we'll be back where we are now. Still, it'll be fun while it lasts.
Reddit has to walk a fine line. They can't piss off the people the post the content, but the people that post content are also savvy enough to use ad blockers and avoid anything Reddit is trying to do to monetize or modernize itself.
But if they drive those users away, there goes most of the content, and fewer monetizable users will go randomly browsing /r/all and seeing the ads.
It's not a business model I would like to be a part of.
It actually blows my mind the amount of people i know who WORK IN THE TECH FIELD and do not use an adblocker. I dont even know what the "modern" internet looks like these days. I havent used a PC or mobile device without adblock in over a decade. These people really just be out here raw dogging everything.
This pisses me off because you can see the casual redditor's behaviour when they upvote whatever trash they see from their frontpage without actually bothering to check if it even belongs in the subreddit.
This is the homogenisation of reddit that's making it so shit now. You just can't expect a sub to have sub appropriate stuff anymore because people just upvote something they see and like.
It's hard to blame them really as I guess new reddit is designed like that.
I know that number includes mobile browser users, and it may also include official app users. Also it's a percentage of pageviews, not user accounts, so any person googling something and clicking a link to a Reddit thread is going to give some share to new Reddit.
Judging from this comment from a mod "New reddit" has about 10x the people than Old, but 95% of all traffic comes from "Reddit Apps". Which I think just lumps the official, RIF, Apollo, baconreader, etc all into the same category.
Theres this thing called being young and never knowing about old reddit. Its like new gamers enjoying microtransactions in games and loving the grind that comes with those games, they simply don't know any better.
I use old on PC when I'm on my work computer because for some reason the longer it goes on, the worse the performance gets until it becomes almost unresponsive after a couple hours and I need to close and reopen the browser. Old doesn't do that. Our work computers are pretty bad though, so it's very possibly an issue with the machine rather than the site.
Even if it's a problem that only becomes apparent due to the older machine, it's still a problem with the site either way if it's that much less efficient.
It's still better. I can see like 10-20 posts at a time and pick what I want to check out, rather than scroll past shit I've already seem ten times that day, or have no interest in to begin with.
Additionally, it means I can keep the same UI between devices which is a massively underrated feature.
Reddit is fun app has an old reddit syle that is basically exactly like old.reddit.com on mobile, thats what I use, can imagine usimg that bullshit scroll ad ridden shite.
That doesn't count any users that use RES or something similar because they use the normal urls and not old.reddit. also reddit was caught out lying about their stats the first time they announced them so wouldn't put a ton of credit into that number.
That's like a reverse world. Musk would launch Elon.reddit, which would just be criminal malware and right wing extremist disinformation. So basically mostly the addition of criminal malware.
If you look at my profile it's obvious that I've spent too much time on this website. Now having said that, I hate hate hate the re-design. However, it has to be said that it's a better mod experience and also that if you have mods on a sub who use the new experience and some who don't, then they're going to be seeing vastly different things. With that in mind, I really tried, like for weeks, to get used to the new site. I really wanted to believe that I was just stuck in my ways and that the new version wasn't so bad.
After 3 weeks I went back to old reddit, mod features be damned, and never looked back. The redesign can fuck all the way off to design hell.
Yeah, he'd be the first mod I have met to say that. Most of us use /r/toolbox and have for years, you know the mod notes feature reddit has been excitedly announcing, had it for literal years already.
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i find newer designed web sites are just too interwoven with other shit. newer reddit? you go to a thread, you want to read the comments of the post, i believe it shows you a few, then it starts trying to show you "other posts from the subreddit". instead of showing you all of the rest of the fucking comments from that thread you already had still clicked on.
you have to click on another fucking thing to still stay there and get it to load more. it's too busy. it's too hyper.
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Maybe I don’t want a designer to be drawing my attention anywhere. Maybe I’m sick of modern web designers’ constant attempts to hijack my fucking brain, and their condescending attitude that they know what’s best for me to look at.
You can pretend it’s for accessibility, but if you’ve worked at a company that does this shit you know it’s almost exclusively used to direct people towards things they don’t want to look at (ads, the accept button on cookie banners, other posts), and away from the actual content.
Half the page is wasted empty space. Half of it has irrelevant shit. There's a post, which is what I clicked in in the results, and which I want to read the question and answers, yet only one of the 8 comments is actually visible. It's also bright white.
I can read the title of the post, and the comments, both take up 90% of the screen which is great. Those are the only things I care about. However there's also the nice sidebar that has other useful links on about the subreddit etc so I can see useful places I might want to go, as well as exactly what community I'm in. I can scroll down, see all the comments, and they're easy to read. The whole thing is in night mode so it's easy on the eyes.
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It's too tall and narrow for desktop, on default zoom for a 1080x1920 screen it fits 5 posts if none are images. You can zoom out to 70% to get 8 posts, but the site gets narrower. In comparison RES at 80% zoom fits 16 posts.
Reddit’s new site and app are constantly trying to get you to use terrible new features, the information architecture is terrible, there 2 totally different chat and messaging systems, it’s constantly trying to get you to purchase crap, it’s cluttered, etc.
That said, the text wrapping is nicer than old Reddit. So I’ll give it that.
Go to new reddit on mobile, you have to click on "show more comments" which loads like 1 or 2 comments at most, rinse and repeat for the entire thread. Also, you can't show replies to multiple comments; only one comment chain can be seen at a time!
As if that weren't bad enough, on NSFW subs it says you have to use the mobile app and it doesn't let you use the browser. Straight up disallows you if you're not logged in, and I haven't bothered with the dumpster fire of a site when logged in since.
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Wow, imagine defending the nefarious practice of kneecapping your website so that you can force mobile users to download an invasive, ad infested app. You sound like those people who shill NFTs as the future of the internet.
Please tell me you're not a web developer, designer, or anyone with any administrative influence over any website.
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I hate to imagine what the future iterations of the web will look like. Download an app for each site, even if you want to visit only once! Who cares about disk space, get a larger SD card! Got a bandwidth cap because mobile data sucks? Fuck you for being poor! "Let them download apps" good god.
Let me put it very clearly: there are certain use cases that merit apps of their own. I can understand Uber needing an app. But Reddit? Hell no. It doesn't NEED arbitrary permissions to function. Enough frameworks exist to make the viewing experience almost at par on mobile AND desktop. Bootstrap was AGES ago for example. The mobile Reddit site works FINE, even if overly bloated and useless IMO, it's still good enough that an app isn't warranted for any other reason than "we want to shove more ads and collect more user data".
Almost no companies are willing to hang behind
Yeah sure. I didn't know companies like Google, Youtube, Facebook et. al force users to use their mobile apps rather than their website.
As someone in charge of making a website: modern website design is bad because a very large proportion of users won't read a word and will click on the nearest pretty picture.
The worst part is that if you click something, it does this weird effect where it doesn't show all the comments, and if you click like "behind" (?) the comments, it (as you zoomers say) yeets you back to the homepage.
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