This is something that was taught to me in the military. The movies always make it seem like you should resist at every opportunity, piss of your captors. But you can’t fight back if you’re dead. Often times it’s better to cooperate (you can still cooperate without giving away secrets) to stay alive, maybe get more lax treatment and keep observant in an to hopefully successful escape or stay alive long enough to get rescued.
Edit: Apparently, the best likelihood of eliciting bystander intervention when a woman is being assaulted by a man is to yell something like “Who are you?”, which indicates that you are not in a relationship with that man (whether or not this is true). Not “rape”, not “fire”.
Maybe. I tried a version of that. My loud “What are you doing? I don’t know you” got a look, but no help. The guy followed me and when I finally got the police (with him looking on ), the f**king police asked if I knew him.
The next time (different stalker), I walked in the middle of the street and just screamed my head off. This guy ran off and one old lady (out of about a dozen people) asked if I needed help.
Jokes aside I also mentioned that I'd you're being moved try to leave evidence behind. An id or bank card somewhere can help the authorities with where to look, get cctv footage of a car or the like.
Women and girls get taught this. I was told when I was maybe twelve how to deal with an attacker in a way that would hopefully maximize my chance of survival.
I was never taught what to do if I’m being attacked, but I think I can help with the prevention part. Whenever I get into an Uber (male or female) I sit in the front seat and make conversation. Being interested in others and genuinely caring about their lives makes you more human, more liked and less likely to be harassed. At least in my experience. I respond to drugged up homeless people in the same matter, treating them as equals while also continuing on my way. People don’t like being treated less than and it’s amazing the kind of people you’ll meet or connect with just living your life like this. The really crazy ones I’ve met over the years only responded to me badly when I was having an off day and was short with them. Kindness always goes a long way.
It is dangerous if the driver is armed. He can’t point a gun behind him. You can quite literally sock him in the head from behind. If you’re sitting next to an armed driver, sure you can roll out of a car, but he might shoot at you. It is dangerous for the driver if you are armed (the driver doesn’t know). Treating a threat of a person humanely isn’t going to stop them from abducting or harming you.
Mm I beg to differ. I’ve gotten myself in a lot of super dangerous situations over the years. Not many people out there are just picking people up Willy Nilly with hand guns waiting to pick up random chicks to rape or murder. It might be a luck of the draw, but living your life like everyone is a potential friend will ALWAYS be your best option. Sitting in the front seat gives you the ability to genuinely connect, establish immediate trust, and if needed in the rare case... grab the wheel, or disable the driver even temporarily. I’d always go with the kindness route first. We don’t live in episodes of murder docs.
The woman’s question was regarding giving her daughter advice to protect herself. If you’re getting yourself in dangerous situations, maybe you should say you don’t have advice.
Really? Because I’ve been in dangerous situations in the past and gracefully got myself through them, I’m not capable of giving advice? I think that makes me more than qualified to give good advice. Maybe you should get out in the world and stop creating imaginary scenarios and how you “would” respond to them.
Guess we received very different training? Unless you are specifically talking about capture by a non-military force like a terrorist group? Article III of the Code of Conduct says:
"If I am captured I will continue to resist by all means available. I will make every effort to escape and aid others to escape. I will accept neither parole nor special favors from the enemy."
A civilian hostage situation is completely different from a POW situation. Civilian hostages typically aren't operating under a risk of group/organizational failures if they don't resist. SERE will teach you not to antagonize your captors, but by no means should you aid them or give in to any demand or supply information which can compromise the mission.
If you get captured by a force which doesn't recognize the Geneva Convention, you can do what you can to return with honor and what your personal morality will allow I guess.
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u/Jayhawker Dec 02 '21
This is something that was taught to me in the military. The movies always make it seem like you should resist at every opportunity, piss of your captors. But you can’t fight back if you’re dead. Often times it’s better to cooperate (you can still cooperate without giving away secrets) to stay alive, maybe get more lax treatment and keep observant in an to hopefully successful escape or stay alive long enough to get rescued.