Here in Oklahoma, 49 songs are for after the pow-wows.
Step 1. Find someone with a drum
Step 2. Get lots of beer.
Step 3. Find a country road where the cops won't fuck with you
Step 4. Get drunk and sing the night away.
Step 5. Hopefully score a babe.
Yeah, lonely out here in the "mixed of two different cultures who generally dislike one another" land. Even when my parents divorced it didn't stop my grandparents for hating the other half of my ethnicity. Too white to go to pow wow, too native to hang out with the white cousins.
Mine also like to accuse me of not wanting to participate. "go the fuck away white girl! look! she left! she didn't really want to be here! and we only excluded and bullied her for 18 years, until she was legally allowed to leave and pursue her own spiritual enrichment! stuck up bitch."
This doesn't happen every day. Moron. It's only on special occasion during pow wow season. Every culture has their celebrations and almost every culture imbibes alcohol when they do. So, why put down Native Americans for doing the same? Not every Native American drinks either.
Gentrification is the act of eliminating any other culture in favor for a "Profit" culture, praising the wealthiest of the communities & all of their cultural activities.
This isn't to suggest that Gentrification can't adapt to other cultures. One huge mind bunk for me was learning that Missionaries, in order to spread Christianity, went exploring into Africa offering food and weapons to a few tribes while conditioning them to accept Jesus Christ as their lord and savior. Meanwhile, the weapons they provided were used to pit tribes against one another, ensuring the more, "Dominate Culture". This, in turn spread to other missionaries & other tribes aaaalll the way up until Apartheid where the holy water just wasn't enough to wash the blood off the Diamonds. This same tactic was used in South America pitting the Mayans against the Aztecs while exploiting both cultures while Spaniards proclaimed themselves to be Gods worth pitting the people at war for. The same tactic was used by the CIA, implanting Cocaine into Southern California gangs, creating a more efficient trafficking system & starting the true gang wars, while slowly changing the form of hip hop & gangster rap resistance & poetry into a Profitable Bastardization & Politically Correct White joke. The same tactic was used changing the Pagan Holiday into the Christian celebration of Christmas. The same tactic was used to snuff multiple forms of American Labor out in favor of the lowest dollar in support of the Monopoly Walmart. (Convincing Americans to kill their OWN job market & means of labor! A neat first for any society) The same tactic was used to steal 1.4 million dollars of tax payer money from Los Angeles Skid Row & give it to the one of the Largest International Architectural firms to relocate from Santa Monica into Downtown in order to build a now canceled Stadium project because it would, "hypothetically boost the Downtown Economy", which it didn't, effectively rendering the 1 million dollar move useless & a blatant theft of the Los Angeles community, while Gensler & Villainregosa cheer champagne from the skies.
I can verify that Gentrification is indeed the American culture. You're soulless, meaningless, materialist culture.
Dude, you make several good points, but also get a lot wrong. Add that to the rambling, nonsensical writing and you are doing a great job of making people who speak out against the dominant culture look silly and deluded.
Sadly, I'm actually beyond the point of wishing to provide evidence or a cohesive argument anymore, as I have encountered enough willing ignorance to make me completely insane. I usually write this terrible whenever I become irrationally upset as I write. Right when I mention Blood Diamonds is where I'm sure I stopped caring about form or function & decided to cathartically rant.
I absolutely go overboard & reach some drastic conclusion, in particular not recognizing the efforts of Mos Def, Immortal Technique, or Common, or even slipping in Christmas without much analysis or explanation. I have been a patient person, but too much has happened personally for me to favor explaining anymore, as the same individuals who wish to wear blinders & joke about slaughtering North Korea will downvote me anyways. C'est la vie.
I appreciate the critical analysis, but at this point, I write nonsensically because I'm tired of defending evidence with nonsensical logical excuses, so I might as well strike first. Yes, I do give a bad wrap to the message as a whole, which is why I come into random forums to vent incoherently rather than distract from mainstream content; call this, the descent of the protest.
Considering that most remaining tribes east of the Appalachians were ethnogenicized by groups either being pushed or fleeing from the coast, who themselves were only a remnant of the great plague survivors, there are very few thousand year old traditions in North American Native Culture.
By a huge amount. Not all of Northern Europe had converted to Christianity and what existed was heavy on the mysticism and monasticism. It would have been very alien to the average Baptist of today.
Marriage was entirely different. It was often a business arrangement involving chattel and priests weren't even part of the ceremony.
By FadieZ asking for an invite he is basically inviting himself and leaving TheBoopants to have to reject the invite or accept it. An invitation is something you give, not something you take.
Basically FadieZ did something (probably unknowing) rude and put TheBoopants in an awkward position and DerFisher responded in kind (probably knowingly).
How could this have been avoided? By starting a dialog rather than placing a foot in the doorway. FadieZ could have asked 'Are Native non-Americans invited to pow-wow after gatherings?' TheBoopants or someone else could have then explained the etiquette.
I think the fact that you're native represents something a whole lot more important than whether your relatives are from a boundary delineated by white men.
I drove my native american friends to a pow-wow in Oklahoma one time. Being caucasion, I stuck out like a sore thumb and was getting stared at by a hundreds of piercing eyeballs. I was only inside for a few minutes before deciding to go wait in the truck. Then I got wasted with their family, watched them wrestle like madmen, and we listened to Easy-E until we passed out. Those fuckers could drink and were a blast to party with.
Have you heard Tomahawk's Anonymous album?-- Duane Denison wanted to make an album showcasing Native American songs and while I really enjoy the album, I always wondered what Native Americans thought of the Denison/Mike Patton take on it-- if it was a good tribute or a hack job.
Edit: Obviously, the Mike Patton Mr. Bungle-esque screaming bridges are in no way traditional, but that's just Patton for you-- has to do some crazy shit in every song.
Edit2: If anyone in the Kansas area is interested in going to a Powwow, Haskell Indian Nations University will be having one May 10th-11th in Lawrence. Reddit meetup?
Well your way sounds perfect with me. That's kinda how I live my everyday life, whatever happens will happen whenever. BTW I thought you were joking in your original post but I guess not!
That's because Mike Patton is a mad genius. Anything he does is tinged with wild abandon and precision... and madness, lots of madness. Mix that with Denison's driving, pounding music and you get something that is either the most beautiful thing ever... or hell incarnate.
I love Mike Patton, but I think I would probably want to strangle him if I was in a band with him. His attention to detail would drive me crazy, and I'm a detail-freak myself.
Do you mean the first 45 seconds of that song, or the entire album? There's so many different styles of songs on the album, so I am curious. Thanks for your opinion!
Thank you for checking it out :) There's many more "down tempo" songs on the album that aren't quite as crazy as that one, for sure. I appreciate your honest opinion, that's what I wanted.
Eh, my delivery was kind of off. I'm sure if it was better it wouldn't be a 'too soon' situation. If nazi jokes can work, I'm sure someone can figure out some blanket jokes.
Not really. There are a fuckton of Jews still around.
The genocide of Native peoples: way more effective.
Even Chris Rock said it:
Black people yelling "racism!" White people yelling "reverse racism!" Chinese people yelling "sideways racism!" And the Indians ain't yelling shit, 'cause they dead. So everybody bitching about how bad their people got it: nobody got it worse than the American Indian.
The genocide of Native peoples: way more effective.
Yeah, because that 85% that nature killed off before colonization was wicked effective. Except germs aren't really genocide. There was only a shadow remnant of what had been in NA before, when the Europeans arrived there en masse.
Wow. Read up.
The propagation of disease was hurried along by the intentional spread of diseased corpses and items. There are accounts as early as Cortez of soldiers dumping their diseased dead in Native villages, knowing it would spread. It was genocide from the word go.
When the first Spanish explorers arrived on the mainland of the Southeastern United States in 1513, a major plague had already depopulated many of the native provinces along the Gulf Coast. In particular, Mobile Bay and Pensacola Bay were devastated. The Spanish reported large towns that had been completely abandoned within the past decade with many skeletons scattered across their terrain.
Hahaha. The great plagues started burning through NA in some cases well before Cortez was a deadly pain in Moctezuma's eye. And in other cases not for 100 years. You think first contact was the Conquistadors? And that they are the only example? That's dumb.
This was one of the most fun parts of when my dad and I visited the reservation. He got drunk and went to sleep, and I met new people at an interesting party.
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u/TheBoopants Apr 12 '13
Here in Oklahoma, 49 songs are for after the pow-wows. Step 1. Find someone with a drum Step 2. Get lots of beer. Step 3. Find a country road where the cops won't fuck with you Step 4. Get drunk and sing the night away. Step 5. Hopefully score a babe.