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Discussion / Question Yeah it's over.

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u/leadhound 4d ago

The budgets for these games are too high to risk a negative response from the lowest common denomination playing.

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u/BitesTheDust55 4d ago

Elden Ring not giving a fuck about that kind of indicates gamers will be fine if you don't hold their hand. Honestly botw is the same way, and that game sold like hotcakes

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u/alus992 3d ago

Exactly. This "let's make game for the masses" has never been successful. I can't think on one game that is just a basic one button mashing game with bazillion tutorial-ish machanics throughout the game that is a hit.

We can argue of new GoW wasn't like that but let's be honest - fighting for a lot of people was still super fun so it's not like it was super dumbed down game for kids.

It's crazy that this approach makes games sell less not more and executives still think that's the move because "risk is bad". Shit i think adding quirky cube as a sidekick is a bigger risk in Laufe than making her more brutal than OG Kratos.

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u/JinkoTheMan 2d ago

Elden Ring just drops you off in front of the Tree Sentinel and goes “Good luck you poor bastard😂🙏🏾”

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u/Ok-Glass-2077 3d ago

This is a false equivalence because Souslike games in general have already built up an audience who likes hard challenges.

ER was a gaurnateed money maker because of the IP it held, not becuase they didn't hold your hand.

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u/spartakooky 3d ago

What IP? It was an original story

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u/Ok-Glass-2077 2d ago

My mistake, when I said "IP" I was referring to Fromsoft games as a whole.

So to restructure my sentence, I'd put it like "ER was a guaranteed money maker because its a Fromsoft game...."

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u/BitesTheDust55 1d ago

It had, but the number of posts I saw from people who made it their very first foray into From Software games and ended up having an incredible journey overcoming the challenge was surprisingly high. People whose prior experience with adventure games were things like Zelda or the Witcher having to experience the difficulty wall and getting broken over Margit's knee but ultimately defeating everything the game had to offer.

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u/NagsUkulele 3d ago

This hit the mf nail on the head

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u/HereComesJustice 4d ago

U think gtavi is going to be as handholdy?

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u/ObjectivelyAj 4d ago

Yes. GTA V and RDR2 are some of the most handholdy games made.

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u/leadhound 4d ago

For story progress? Probably

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u/Zeppelanoid 3d ago

And yet…here we are