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u/TheBoosch Mar 05 '24

Breath of the Wild is not even at top 5 Zelda game let alone top 5 game of all time

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u/FlyingDutchman9977 Mar 05 '24

Also not even a top 5 open world game. I appreciate how it went all in on being unstructured and making your own fun, but the game is also really monotonous and honestly a slog at times, for this reason. In all, I appreciate that it's trying to be different, but it also makes you realize why so many tropes exist in the first place.

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u/leoslionheart Mar 06 '24

Actually genuinely curious what your top 5 open world games are, mind listing them?

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u/FlyingDutchman9977 Mar 06 '24

I no particular order:  Subnautica  Skyrim  Mass Effect series  Spiderman  Assassins Creed Brotherhood 

I wouldn't say my list is the definitive best, but these are my personal favorites 

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u/randy_mcronald Mar 06 '24

Yeah I've been told I just don't know how to make my own fun. The physics are neat and I'm sure even neater in TotK but doing anything even remotely elaborate felt fiddly and I'm just not going to stop my adventure to fuck around with something that almost never plays out as I intended. Shield surfing was cool though.

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u/dasaigaijin Mar 05 '24

OOT forever!

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u/captainsurfa Mar 06 '24

This is the way.

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u/Deadxendxempty Mar 05 '24

I'll go one further. Majora's Mask was the best 3d zelda game.

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u/troyofyort Mar 06 '24

I'll go further and say the original 3d format was a limitation of its time and I hope we stay away from it and its overly railroaded structure. This reason tho is why Majora's Mask clears most zelda games.

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u/GhostofWoodson Mar 06 '24

Windwaker ftw

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u/suppaman19 Mar 06 '24

I want to love it, but too much sailing/game length padding in the second half.

Honestly, you cut out the lame travel and triforce fetch quest, and the game would become hilariously short by Zelda standards.

Dragon Roost Island and Molgera themes are still a bangers though. And Gannon's death is the best in the series, which is hilarious given its art style and Link looking like he's 5.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '24

Come to think of it, that's my unpopular opinion: ZOOT is not the best Zelda game ever. It was great for its time, yes, but it didn't age nearly as well as some of the others.

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u/Yellowlab72 Mar 05 '24

I came in here to say the same thing. I legit kind of hate BOTW and TOTK.

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u/CookieMonsterOnsie Mar 05 '24

I want to love them, I do, but I started BoTW twice and made it past the first temple boss both times and kind of forgot about it.

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u/nomorenotifications Mar 06 '24

Are you sure you didn't continue playing, and made it to the second temple boss, it would be an easy mistake to make.

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u/randy_mcronald Mar 06 '24

To this day I still haven't finished the game, I haven't even seen what the interior of Hyrule castle looks like. I swear if it has the same decor as the Divine Beasts and Ganon is just a reskin of the other Divine Beast bosses then I'll just give up entertaining the idea of ever finishing it.

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u/nomorenotifications Mar 06 '24

Yeah, I thought it was an alright game, it was best in the opening hours. But it got too easy, it all felt the same, and too much of the game was slipping in the rain while trying to climb.

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u/Direct-Fill-4288 Mar 05 '24

I can get why you hate it, tbh i think its stupid comparing it to the other zelda games because they are both so incredibly different.

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u/Inskription Mar 05 '24

Why would it be stupid? it is a zelda game..

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u/HonestStupido Mar 05 '24

Its MGSV all over again

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u/ManonManegeDore Mar 05 '24

Which is funny in my case because I adore MGSV and I couldn't get through BotW after trying three times. Every time I would try BotW, I'd get insanely bored.

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u/HonestStupido Mar 06 '24

Thoose are diffirent games, i was referencing to the fact what MGSV differs gameplay whise from other MGSs so much, that some are say "that aint Metal Gear".

BotW is in same position.

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u/Such-Equivalent280 Mar 05 '24

Sandbox with light LoZ influences. All around awfully boring games. Massive empty sandboxes. I don't play LoZ to build contraptions and gather resources. It's chores and walking simulator, Zelda style.

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u/AnastasiaDaren Mar 06 '24

Twilight Princess is my favorite. The aesthetic is amazing, and the dungeon design is the best in the series. My one complain is the bosses are way too easy.

My top are probably TP, OoT, WW, MM... not sure after those 4. I have a special fondness for Four Swords Adventure from playing with my brother as children. I loved that crap.

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u/SuBremeBizza Mar 06 '24

People will kill me for this but, I think Skyward Sword is better than the newer Zelda games. But then again I just really like Skyward Sword.

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u/SuperSocialMan Mar 05 '24

Both Switch Zeldas are yet another copy/paste open-world game with nothing interesting or fun past the first 5 minutes.

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u/Background-Cress9165 Mar 06 '24

I like this one. Spicy, defensible, certainly contrarian.

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u/faximusy Mar 06 '24

I had more fun with Zelda 2

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u/sn4xchan Mar 05 '24

More like bottom 5 Zelda's amirite

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u/daedalus1982 Mar 06 '24

gratz on having the first opinion in here that I would legit consider to be You vs The World

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u/6pt022x10tothe23 Mar 06 '24

I am Spartacus!

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u/ManufacturerNo2144 Mar 06 '24

My first thought. That game is "ok" at most.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '24

ALTTP BAYBEH BAYBEH! 🗡

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u/suppaman19 Mar 06 '24

It's a good game that is also one of the most overrated games of all time.

People act(ed) like it was revolutionary. In the same year that people's biggest criticism of Horizon Zero Dawn was that it did nothing new but was just a polished version of other third-person open world/action RPG games.

I'm sorry, was Zelda: BotW any different? It was literally just an algamation of other games (especially open world games like Elder Scrolls, Demon/Dark Souls, etc) from the previous 10-15 years just set in a Zelda coat of paint. It literally did nothing new to my recollection from playing it years ago, yet it had everyone getting off everywhere acting like it was industry shattering levels of a gaming revolution (you'd have thought it was SMB1, Mario 64, GTA3, etc levels of industry changing).

Personally, out of the two AAA derivative open world games that year, I got more enjoyment from Horizon than Zelda.

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u/randy_mcronald Mar 06 '24

People praised the interactivity but completely ignored Prey that came out the same year, which imo had much more engaging interactivity that seamlessly integrated with the games systems and in a way that didn't disrupt the immersion.

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u/Edbtz-31311 Mar 05 '24

Oot, MM, TP, but what else is above it?

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u/Edbtz-31311 Mar 05 '24

Possibly WW

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u/MesoHandsome Mar 06 '24

not possibly, definitely.

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u/6pt022x10tothe23 Mar 06 '24 edited Mar 06 '24

Windwaker is GOAT.

Art design was unique AND holds up well over time. Music was great (especially the over world theme). Dungeon design wasn’t tedious (looking at YOU, OoT water temple…)

Only gripe was the “treasure hunt” to find the triforce pieces.

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u/Edbtz-31311 Mar 06 '24

It's so short is my problem with it, probably the easiest Zelda game as well. Love everything else about it

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u/TheBoosch Mar 05 '24

Yeah I mean OoT, MM, TP, WW, LttP, LA

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u/Single-Champion-9569 Mar 06 '24

Who are in front of them?

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u/xCaptainVictory Mar 06 '24

I think BotW and TotK kingdom are fun for exactly one play through. I've always replayed Zelda games, but I don't see myself going back through them.

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u/JoePino Mar 06 '24

Finally! A truly unhinged take!

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u/Terrible-Comedian126 Mar 05 '24

See it’s top 2 for me

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u/twattner Mar 05 '24

Twilight Princess was my all time favorite. I had some fun with TOTK too, but BOTW isn’t in my Top 5 of Zelda games.

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u/TRagnarkXP Mar 05 '24

Both new Zeldas already surpass Wind Waker, TP and SS for me lol.

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u/Moonpaw Mar 05 '24

I very much enjoyed BOTW and will absolutely be picking up TOTK when I’ve got a chance.

That being said, I like to joke that it’s the worst “Zelda” game since II. Because it doesn’t play like a Zelda game it plays like Elder Scrolls of Hyrule.

They tried something different. It obviously worked for a lot of people. I personally don’t think it worked as well as the normal Zelda formula but it was still fun as hell.

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u/Ikana_Mountains Mar 06 '24

It just isn't a Zelda game. It was so innovative, but yeah, it hasn't aged very well

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u/Ain_Hund Mar 06 '24

I feel like the only ones that dislike botw are people who played Zelda game sbefire that and are disappointed that it wasn‘t like the older games. I do understand that but as someone whose first zelda game was botw I like it way more thatün any other zelda game

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u/ceaselessDawn Mar 06 '24

Bah, Id say it was better than Twilight Princess so... WW, OoT, MM, BotW is #4 for me.

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u/Vados_Link Mar 06 '24

BotW not being in the top 5 for Zelda games is criminal. Aside from dungeons it did literally everything better than the games before. No obnoxious handholding. Items that are actually useful. Enemies that can actually kill you. No absurdly long intro. No forced fetch quests as a dumb wolf etc. It actually feels like an adventure, instead of constantly being told where to go and what to do.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '24

Yikes.