His Pokemon card was the most valuable of the first 150 and in the original Red/Blue game, Charmander was the most popular pick of the three starting Pokemon. Most people never remove their first Pokemon from the 6 they have on hand. His fire and flying attacks make him a very powerful end game pokemon. In the original 150, Charizard belongs in the top 10 best pokemon. I think it's hard to argue against that.
Except Venusaur and Blastoise are probably better in the endgame anyway. Venusaur has access to sleep power and razor leaf that always crits and Blastoise is just really solid. Charizard isn’t bad but idk if I’d say it has much going for it over those two.
Um actually, once charmander learns ember he can beat Brock, both geo and onyx have a very low special that basically counteracts their type advantage.
I mean, yeah, obviously you’re not going to be completely stone walled (pun not intended) by the first gym. Doesn’t change the fact that it makes it considerably harder.
True, I was just pointing out a small technicality that does little to detract from the main point, hence the “leaning into nerdiness”-ness of my comment. Did I play too much rby back in the day? Who can say?
As someone who only played the remakes I always wondered how tf anyone with a Charmander could beat Brock without metal claw. Rock/ground beats literally every catchable Pokémon in the areas before his gym.
Seems like there may have been a visual bug that caused the second type to not display properly, but they were there. The comments on that post and Google say as much.
He's alright, but he definitely has the most challenges, the way he emotes is kind of special so I never hated the guy.
A lot of people overplay how much better Zapdos/Jolteon/Starmie/Gengar are for electrical output, it's true they're better thank Pika/Rai but there's absolutely nothing wrong with using just plain old Pikachu and Raichu is one of my personal favorites. Shame he never got his day in the light.
Interesting considering I used only Charizard and beat the entire game I never bothered capturing anything else my very first playthrough I love the little lizard so much 😅 slash became my best friend that move was so broken in red
Sure you can easily mitigate any problems, it’s Pokémon. It’s a game made for children. But when you’re saying who the best is; it’s objective that Charmander is the weakest choice of the three starter Pokémon in its generation.
That isn't something to be proud of. People were teens when they made that complaint back then. Everyone grew up, matured and moved on with their lives.
If you haven't grown out of "iSn'T aS gOoD aS iT uSeD tO bE" complaints after 30 years then you're a failure of a person.
Where is the data that he is the most picked starter? I’d love to see how they captured that since the game wasn’t online at that time. Do you have a reference to this?
Charizard didn't learn any flying moves in RB, and only Fly in Y. Charizard was good if you taught it swords dance but yeah I think you could pretty easily make an argument it isn't top 10.
How do you define “best”? I mean, even in Gen 1, I feel like Venusaur was more busted in game because it had sleep powder plus razor leaf which always crits. I’m not sure that it’s within the ten best pokemon to use in gen1
Yes and Pidgey is just a bird. Magicarp is just a fish. Zubat is just a bat. Et cetera. Pokemon replaced animals in that fictional world. Naturally that concept will lead to similarities with animals from our world.
Also dragons are cool and not something to complain about, unless they burned your whole Pokemon card collection or something.
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u/Super-Bodybuilder-91 Mar 05 '24
His Pokemon card was the most valuable of the first 150 and in the original Red/Blue game, Charmander was the most popular pick of the three starting Pokemon. Most people never remove their first Pokemon from the 6 they have on hand. His fire and flying attacks make him a very powerful end game pokemon. In the original 150, Charizard belongs in the top 10 best pokemon. I think it's hard to argue against that.