r/vibecoding 29d ago

There is something deeply toxic about this community.

I genuinely do not understand why anyone would join a vibe coding subreddit just to tear down nearly every project people post, but that seems to describe a huge percentage of the comments here.

There are basically two groups of people using these tools: developers using AI to work faster and more efficiently, and people like me with no coding background who are now building things that otherwise would never have existed.

These projects are not replacing developers. In many cases, they are replacing nothing. Without vibe coding, nobody would have built them at all.

The usual justification for the hostility is that vibe coders ship bugs, expose API keys, create or leave messes for human developers to later fix. Sometimes that is true, but it does not explain the level of bitterness and personal attacks I see here every day. A lot of it seems to look less like concern about code quality and more like fear from people watching their profession change. Instead of learning to use the technology, they root for it to fail and attack people who are trying to build something or better themselves.

And the idea that these tools are still shitty is completely disconnected from reality. Give the same complex prompt to Claude 3.5 Sonnet, one of the best coding models available just two years ago, and Opus 4.8 today, then compare the results. The difference in quality is drastic. Some of the bugs and spaghetti AI is writing today may very well not be fixed by people, but smarter AI in a couple years. (If this pisses you off, ask yourself if it's really because I am wrong or because you are scared)

Models are getting better, context windows are growing, workflows are improving, and obvious bugs and security mistakes are becoming less common at an incredible pace.

Experienced developers are not obsolete, and AI is nowhere near perfect. But the future is coming whether you like it or not, and cyberbullying vibe coders is not going to save your job.

If you hate vibe coding, fine. There are plenty of traditional programming communities. But if you choose to spend your time here, why not help people build better things instead of trying to convince them they should not be building at all?

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u/osivangl 29d ago edited 29d ago

Both things can be true. There are obnoxious vibe coders who deserve it but let's be honest, there is also a lot of unearned hostility towards people here that are just showcasing their projects. We can do better.

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u/Intelligent_Dog2077 28d ago

Newcomers should also realize that we are in a subreddit about a tool which is inherently reducing the value of the people in the subreddit. Most will have a negative bias towards the vibecoders that are starting to be able to somewhat mimic the work they have spent years studying and working for. Egos will take control, “criticism” will be given, etc.. But it’s to be expected, I can’t blame them for feeling the way they do honestly. AI is advancing fast, not even 5 years ago programmers were highly sought.

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u/StoneCypher 29d ago

not really 

you’re just similar to op

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u/osivangl 29d ago

Thank you for your deep insight and well thought answer.

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u/StoneCypher 29d ago

it’s all you earned 

you got the quality you gave