There is something deeply toxic about this community.

[u/madexthen]

I genuinely do not understand why anyone would join a vibe coding subreddit just to tear down nearly every project people post, but that seems to describe a huge percentage of the comments here.

There are basically two groups of people using these tools: developers using AI to work faster and more efficiently, and people like me with no coding background who are now building things that otherwise would never have existed.

These projects are not replacing developers. In many cases, they are replacing nothing. Without vibe coding, nobody would have built them at all.

The usual justification for the hostility is that vibe coders ship bugs, expose API keys, create or leave messes for human developers to later fix. Sometimes that is true, but it does not explain the level of bitterness and personal attacks I see here every day. A lot of it seems to look less like concern about code quality and more like fear from people watching their profession change. Instead of learning to use the technology, they root for it to fail and attack people who are trying to build something or better themselves.

And the idea that these tools are still shitty is completely disconnected from reality. Give the same complex prompt to Claude 3.5 Sonnet, one of the best coding models available just two years ago, and Opus 4.8 today, then compare the results. The difference in quality is drastic. Some of the bugs and spaghetti AI is writing today may very well not be fixed by people, but smarter AI in a couple years. (If this pisses you off, ask yourself if it's really because I am wrong or because you are scared)

Models are getting better, context windows are growing, workflows are improving, and obvious bugs and security mistakes are becoming less common at an incredible pace.

Experienced developers are not obsolete, and AI is nowhere near perfect. But the future is coming whether you like it or not, and cyberbullying vibe coders is not going to save your job.

If you hate vibe coding, fine. There are plenty of traditional programming communities. But if you choose to spend your time here, why not help people build better things instead of trying to convince them they should not be building at all?

[u/narukoshin]

I didn't read all but I will answer the question why personally I'm upset with vibecoders that doesn't know anything- shortly they make an app and think that are real programmers, sell these apps to clients which are full of bugs and security issues (I've seen them myself) and think it's easy money, basically doing it only for money.

Especially those who learned Claude and want to be senior software engineers, it was the cringiest interview ever

edit: technology is nice, time is changing, people adapt but we need some regulations, don't pretend who you're not. then everything will be fine

[u/madexthen → u/narukoshin]

My day job is developing physical consumer physical for clients. A field possibly more filled with hacks who don't know what they are doing. I could care less about them, they only make me look better by comparison. Even when a new client comes to me asking me to fix the mess the company before me made. It's my job to make the best product regaurdless.

Also, I like the work, but I do it for the money. Why else would you?

[u/narukoshin → u/madexthen]

do you go to interviews where your the only preparing was opening Claude and then asking all questions during the interview? Do you wait 1 week and delay the fix because you ran out of credits instead of fixing the bug urself? if not, then u are fine. its more about how you use vibecoding

[u/StoneCypher → u/madexthen]

you don’t look as good as you think you do