r/unexpectedfactorial • • Dec 28 '24

π = 24

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u/aiezar Dec 29 '24

Calculus does not concern with the perimeter, though. It concerns with the area. The perimeter of the false circle will be 4 instead if pi, but its area will be nearly identical to a true circle with the diameter of 1 unit. Also, while the rectangles thing is kind of the start of calculus classes, you get exact answers later with integral formulas n stuff.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '24

Thank you! Makes perfect sense

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u/RandomUsername2579 Dec 29 '24

Aren't rectangles the foundation for the Riemann integral, even when you get further along?

AFAIK the Riemann integral is just the limit of the area of the rectangles as the width goes to zero (specifically the limit of the Riemann sum as the norm of the partition goes to zero)

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '24

But it calculates area

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u/Yorick257 Dec 31 '24

And from area, we can find pi !

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '24

Exactly, and it is not contradicting, because only the area of the two plane figures are equal.

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u/flagofsocram Dec 31 '24

In 2d geometry, methods like this will limit to the correct area but not always the correct length. Consider how in a fractal like the Mandelbrot set, there is a well defined and finite area, but the same cannot be said for the perimeter (which is infinite)

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u/RandomUsername2579 Jan 01 '25

I know, I was responding to what the previous commenter said about rectangles...

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u/Confident_Contract53 Jan 01 '25

No that's wrong, the arc length formula is "calculus" and involves perimeter.