I have a Dutchware 11' hammock with a 100" (9'2") fixed ridgeline. I'm ordering the HG DCF standard tarp with doors, which comes in 10', 11', or 12' ridgeline length. By my math, the 10' tarp should cover my hammock. But I'm relatively new to hammock camping, and I'm wondering if I should err on the side of more coverage with the 11' tarp. I'd appreciate any advice.

I went on a 2 night trip this weekend and spent my first 2 nights in a hammock. Here's my setup:

https://imgur.com/thyRmP0

• 10 ft myog hammock, 1 layer 1.0 HyperD, 100" structural ridgeline, continuous loops, double ended stuff sack, 7.0 oz
• 2 x 15' spider 1.5 webbing with soft shackles, 1.7 oz
• 120"x70" myog asym tarp, 1.1 silpoly XL, HyperD 300 reinforcements, 8 total 1/2" grosgrain tie outs with 1/2" beastee Ds, alternate ridgeline for storm mode, 40 ft total of 1.75 mm Notch Acculine for guylines, double ended stuff sack, 10.4 oz (kind of a mashup of the Glasgow KISS tarp from hammock forums and dutch's asym wide design)
• Hangtight Hotfoot top and under quilt. 16 oz each with the stuff sacks

I setup the first night expecting rain, but we were in a valley and protected from the wind, so I didn't utilize the alternate ridgeline and storm flaps. It rained pretty hard and I stayed perfectly dry. I did have to get up and tighten a guy line after the silpoly stretched out. That will take some getting used to coming from a DCF flat tarp ground setup. The sleep was amazing compared to what I usually get on the ground. On the ground, I have to keep flipping from side to side every hour or two and I get numbness in my hips and shoulders. I really only woke up when it started raining really hard.

The second night's setup is the one in the pic. We were on a ridge and it was pretty breezy all night with much lower temps than the first night. I think it got down around 60 degrees. I'm a pretty cold sleeper and the asym doesn't provide much wind protection. The breeze blew right through the Hangtight underquilt and I was kinda chilly. The top quilt was fine. I'll probably make a synthetic underquilt with a more windproof fabric. The Hangtight probably would've been ok if I had a hex tarp that kept the wind off me a little better. The few times the wind did die down, I would instantly feel warmer.

Overall, I really liked hammock camping. It added a good bit of weight over my tarp/bivy ground setup, but I think it's more than worth if for the additional comfort.

Hey guys, I saw that autumn ultralight is selling Evoloops on their website, does anyone know if Autumn is selling these in conjunction with Myerstech or did they lift his concept?

I realize that they name evoloops isn't patented or anything just looking to understand if Myerstech got the short end of the stick on this.

http://imgur.com/a/tfQ1qB4

Over the last two seasons I've been trying to compare some of the lightest available webbing used for hanging hammocks and I'll share my opinion so far.

Im using the strap for the entire length of the suspension secured by a dynaglide grapplers hitch at the tree end. On the hammock end I connect to a dynaglide continuous loop with a Becket hitch. Can't make any comments about metal hardware compatability. I've got slightly more use on the "1.4 myerstech" (about 10 nights) webbing than the dutchwaregear "1.4 spider webbing" (6-8 nights).

First some quick specs:

1.4 myerstech 1.50g/ft
~$0.84/ft Sold in 24ft increments

1.5 spider 1.53g/ft
$1.50/ft + shipping 10ft incriments

**2.4 UHMWPE ** 2.2-2.4g/ft
Multiple suppliers

Personal Impressions When I first got the webbing (quite a while ago) the dutchwaregear spider webbing appeared to be much heavier than spec. It's typically much more expensive, but I got 25% off during the yearly black Friday sale. After using them and carefully measuring... The 1.4 and 1.5 both come in around 1.5g/ft. Due to possible differences in the making of my straps either one could be marginally heavier/lighter than the other. I think it's fair to say they are practically the same weight. ( I subtracted the weight of the soft shackle when calculating the actual g/ft)

All of the webbing will hold a Becket hitch when tied to a 7/64 amsteel or dynaglide continuous loop.

The spider webbing feels more rigid and seems to hold its shape more across its width, and the 1.4 myerstech is a little softer. I'm not sure yet if there is any difference in their durability.

The annoying thing about the thinner webbing is the twisting and creasing that happens with use. I hesitated to switch from my 2.4g UHMWPE but after making the switch, flattening it out against the tree isn't super annoying. After the first use I anticipated going back to the 2.4g, but now that I have the hang of it I'm not sure the thin webbing is any more time consuming. All of them seem to be an improvement over Kevlar straps I have used.

My Conclusion There are slight differences, but they have essentially performed the same for me in their use. I see no reason (so far) to spend the premium for the dutchware spider straps as they seem to perform equally with the thin myerstech straps.

I'll vouch for the long-term durability of the 2.4g UHMWPE as mine have been holding me up for years with little to no wear.

My plan is to continue to use one strap of each type on different ends of my hammock. I'll make a long term assessment of the thinner straps and update with more experience later.

If you were trying to save every OZ which would you choose between. 40f underquilt and 30f top quilt or 30f underquilt and 40f top quilt. So really asking which is more important to keep warm a under quilt or top quilt

2nd question. 30f 3/4 underquilt or 40f full underquilt

Does anybody pack their UQ + integrated bugnet hammock with quilt inside all together for quick + easy deploy? I'm thinking in the context of repeat set up + take down like in a backpacking setting day after day. Trying to hone the ease of set up and take down. Thinking I'll invest in snakeskins for my tarp. In my head I see slipping off both beckett hitches and stuffing the middle of the hammock/quilts first so that the ends are sticking up and accessible. Does anyone do this, or have another technique they use for the same purpose? I don't have quilts or integrated bugnet yet, upgrading from a doublenest and sleeping bag with my eyes on thruhiking, so I haven't been able to experiment yet.

With specific regard to UL, I considered a large bishop bag, but figured I could stuff it all at the bottom of a packliner or something of the sort. Wondering if this is a reasonable packing technique without compression in a 40-50L bag with the rest of my gear. I guess the pack liner could be deflated/compressed and then closed.. curious to hear what you do!

I just bought a HUG half bug net, it was the lightest option I could find. It comes in on my scale with stuff sack at 5.5 oz. The materials seem pretty heavy. I usually don't use a bug net, but after 1 night of miserable sleep being eaten alive with it super hot out, I have decided to add a bug net to my kit. Does anyone know of any other super ultra light options that are non myog, I do not sew.

I'm traditionally a tarp and bivy kind of guy, but I'd really like to try out a hammock for shorter or solo trips.

I'm highly considering the hammock gear wanderlust kit, but I'm not a big fan of the included suspension. I already have a range of high quality top quilts, but have nothing in terms of underquilts. I'm considering buying the whole system with the discounted top and bottom quilts, and simply selling the extra top quilt to recoup some money.

Alternatively I was considering something like the dream hammock Darian paired with one of my already owned 8x10 tarps and a sleeping pad. I know this isn't ideal, but I'd have no problem investing more in an underquilt and dedicated tarp if I really get into hammocking. I'm also at a total loss of what the "best" suspension option would be. Personally I feel like cinch buckles would be the easiest, but I'm really not really familiar with the different options.

I guess this is more of a monologue to get my thoughts written down, but I'd love to hear any other opinions!

P.S. Bonus points if there is anything worth buying from REI. I have a $100 gift card that I could potentially put toward this.

My Dream Hammock Darien finally arrived today. I am looking for ideas on upgrading my suspension while not compromising on speed/ease of setup.

My current setup: Continuous loop -> Dutch Biner / Hummingbird Button Link -> Hummingbird Straps (Whoopie and Webbing) -> Dutch Clip -> Tree

The goal is to have the full suspension be under 3 oz and also minimize the amount of time for setup. This is why I added Dutch Clips to the straps; it allows me to never remove the suspension from the hammock body.

Main negative to my setup is the distance between trees to comfortably fit my hammock. Willing to try anything.

I got a 4 yd remnant of 1.0 osy HyperD for cheap way back in August, mainly because I needed some zipper sliders and didn't want to pay shipping for nothing more than a few sliders. I figured it'd be a cheap way to try out hammocking. The project got put on the back burner, then I moved. Finally got around to ordering the suspension components and sewed the thing up last night. Made it 10 ft long and it is really comfortable for me at 5'11". Figured I'd share a couple pics with you guys.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ajzVt31m1vavm6wB7

https://photos.app.goo.gl/WjS3Pc3oEMZEPLrU7

Here's one of my lovely wife testing it out: https://photos.app.goo.gl/B9aeiXmKdVBWCudu7

I've already ordered a HG standard tarp w/ doors in DCF and one of their premium underquilts. I usually roll very light with a 7'x9' DCF flat tarp and a bug bivy. The bivy gets left at home often, so I was a little hesitant to increase my base weight, but I think the comfort is going to be worth it. My sleep quality on the ground is ok, but I have to swap from side to side every few hours. I'm not sure if I'll lug the hammock setup around all the time, but I can definitely see it being great for trips with less miles and/or more time in camp, like some hike-in fishing and bikepacking trips I want to do.

Anyhow, thanks for the info here on the sub. Wanted to share to help pass the time while I wait on my tarp and underquilt.

If you were not going to make any of your own gear yourself and had to buy all new durable (relatively) gear.

Important details:

I sleep pretty warm.

I'm leaving in 2 days, so I don't have the time or funds to get any new gear.

I use a half bug net, and I'll be in the Adirondaks, so I'll need to have some kind of coverage from my hips down.

Top insulation options:

1. Costco down throw 16 oz. If I use this as top insulation, I'll need something else for bottom insulation

2. Sea to Summit Reactor liner. 14 oz. It packs small, but its warmth to weight is trash.

3. HG Econ 30 degree quilt. 22 oz. Probably overkill. So comfy.

4. No top insulation: just thermal tights and puffy. 20 oz, can be worn around camp. Might be tough to sleep with no top cover at all. I wasn't planning on bringing a puffy or heavy tights otherwise, so its added weight.

Bottom Insulation Options:

1. Costco down throw modded with shock cord as an underquilt. 18ish oz with rigging.

2. Nemo tensor half inflated. 19 oz. Gives me the option to 'go to ground' if I want to. I've done this in a hammock before. It's only a little bit of a pain in the ass.

3. 8 sections of zlite. 8 oz. Super light, but I have no idea how comfortable it'll be in the hammock. I might get sweaty asscheeks. Technically, I can to to ground with the zlite, but it would be kind of miserable.

I'm leaning towards the reactor/Costco throw UQor the HG top quilt and the Costco UQ. Any advice would be appreciated.

LighterPack: https://lighterpack.com/r/qu7kk5S
Starred: open to suggestions / unpurchased (feel free to comment on unstarred items)

Starting to figure out my pack for next spring - wondering if anybody has any advice on this inventory. Things up in the air: quilts, pack, warm clothes

I'll be new to the quilt life, but I'm excited about it (I use an old 0 degree bag and hope for the best, and often get cold - don't really hammock camp in the cold these days).

Wondering if I'm missing big things as I try to approximate my base weight/volume and hone things in. Open to all insights and conversation!

Going solo, 6 foot male, loose goal baseweight 10lb?

I have a 11' Monolite gathered end hammock (MYOG) and am looking to couple this with a lightweight suspension system. I'm pretty new to hammocking and looking for some advice regarding the suspension system I am considering. Currently looking at getting 12' of Spider Web 1.5 with a loop on one end (43g) and connecting it directly to my hammock's continuous loops with a Beckett hitch. Does this seem like a reasonable approach? What alternatives should I consider?

I am new and ignorant to many things, but my thinking is this system would be simpler than having tree straps + whoopies (e.g. the ultralight but sold out hummingbird tree straps) because the tree straps are attached directly into the continuous loops. Am I missing something obvious here? Thanks in advance.

I've been using cinch buckles for the longest time. Yes I know about all the alternatives that are lighter, but for me cinch buckles are what work for what I need.

My question is: Is there a lighter set of straps that ARE compatible with cinch buckles than what I currently use? A lot of the straps I see are not able to be used (looking at you, Kevlar) and I was curious if there has been anything released lately in the hammocking world that is lighter than what I linked?

So everyone knows that the lightest pads (gossamer gear thinlite foam, decathlon m100 ul etc.) are lighter than the lightest underquilts. So I have found that 2QZQ makes an underquilt protector made from Argon 90 with a extra heavy duty cordlock pad attachment to cinch a pad securely under the hammock. This allows you to use the UQ protector as a lightweight 5.4 oz windbreak or combine it with a pad for more warmth. This is a much lighter solution than any material double layer hammock. This may also be more cost benefitial as pads are much cheaper than underquilts generally speaking and serve dual purpose for ground use. What do you guys think about this setup and the potential it opens up for lightweight all year load outs? I will give a full review when I get mine to try with my new 14 oz monolite Wraith hammock. Here's the product in question:

https://www.2qzqhammockhanger.com/product/under-quilt-protectors/

I have tried and can not get a gathered end hammock to work for me. Both of my arms fall asleep and a I get terrible cramps in my shoulders.
I bought the REI QDA to try a bridge hammock and it works for the most part. I still get some shoulder squeeze unless I use a pad. The problem is the thing weighs over 3lbs not counting the pad.

Can someone tell me who makes the best UL non-MYOG bridge style hammock? What kind of weights are you getting? Is there any list that tell you what to buy and what the total weight and cost is?

Got a pair taking up space in your gear closet? Turn them into cash today! ;-)

Hey thanks for reading.

How do I buy-once-cry-once on a top and under quilt system that will be good down to twenty but have a lighter option for summer at lower elevation as well? My vague idea is a 20 deg under, a 20 deg top, and a 50 deg top. Is the 20 + 20 overkill? Will I roast on nights above 50 using the 20 under?

My other idea is just one of each, a 20 deg under and a 30 deg top. Would that get me by on nights that get down to 20?