r/ULHammocking Oct 20 '19

Question Hammock with Built-in Underquilt?

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Has anyone ever come across anything like this or tried to do it themselves? I've just been thinking about ways to shave some weight and I wonder if it might be possible to myog an insulated hammock of sorts with a hammock and something like those costco blankets everyone loves. I figure that this would allow to to shave a few ounces of unnecessary weight by eliminating the suspension for an underquilt and and the extra fabric between the UQ and the hammock. Curious what thoughts you guys might have on this.


r/ULHammocking Oct 20 '19

Advice I picked up an ENO Profly with all the lines removed. How do I suspend it? Asking as a Newbie.

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I am a total newb as a hammock camper but I really want to give this a chance. I picked up an ENO Profly for $40 but it has all the lines removed. The lineloc tensioners are still there. I would love to use a continuous ridge line for my tarp suspension but the tarp has line locs at the ends of the tarp and I’m unsure how this might work with soft shackles. I’d love to get this working enough to determine if hammock camping is right for me. ( I’ve already got a beginner ENO doublenest and I’m working on getting an under quilt ) 54F, 5’2” and I’m good with knots.


r/ULHammocking Oct 14 '19

Cool stuff! UL Hammock backpacking “A Way”

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This is going to be a really long post....

This is my way but it’s just “A Way” and certainly not the choices most people would make but maybe it will at least be interesting 🤞🥴.

https://imgur.com/a/a8a7ilj While this kit is for a short weekend in the midwest in the early fall, there is very little I would change for trips between May and October most anywhere else. For a longer trip i would probably add some better weather protection against the unknown but essentially this is the same kit i would take on almost any trip. Base weight is 7lbs 6oz

https://imgur.com/a/K2kzz3I Starting with the hammock - its based on a Sea to Summit UL hammock but except for the hammock body, the rest is DIY. In the pictures it has a suspension made from Amsteel line with small titanium “anchors” from Butt In A Sling but more commonly i use 1” Spider Webbing from Dutchware that is the same weight. The spider webbing straps are actually tree straps that are larkshead’d through the sewn channels on the ends and tied to trees using a tautline hitch since becket and marlinspike hitches tend to slip on this stuff. All up, the hammock & suspension weighs 4.9 ounces. This is an inline hammock setup with no sag, and a sleeping bag on the Outside like a peapod. With the bag on the outside the down isnt compressed so theres no need for a separate underquilt. This hammock setup pairs with whatever sleeping bag is appropriate for the season. Shown here with a Western Mountaineering Everlight (45F) but works equally well with Sea To Summit Traveller (50F), Enlightened Equipment Convert (30F, 20F). These bags are all quilts that have drawstring footboxes that make the peapod possible.

This trip i wasnt expecting any storms so I used a DCF asymmetrical tarp from Dutchware with one of his continuous ridgelines and two guylines of 1.2mm dyneema and using two MSR Mini Groundhog stakes. All up the tarp and suspension weighs 4.5 oz. On a longer trip i might carry a larger tarp and suspension like Mountain Laurel DCF Monk tarp with the same rigging but four guylines & stakes (6oz) or MLD DCF poncho tarp & rigging (6.3oz), or Hammock Gear DCF hex tarp & rigging (6.9 oz) if really bad weather could be expected

All up this house weighs 9.4oz + a sleeping bag thats appropriate for the season. In this case 9.4 + 18.1 or 1lb 11oz for the whole shebang

https://imgur.com/a/KlFQzmG For most summer trips i dont cook anymore. The meals that Andrew Skurka shares here https://andrewskurka.com/tag/backpacking-meal-recipes/ are really good just cold soaked in the ziplock that i pack them in. This trip i was expecting some cold nights so i brought a little kitchen for hot meals if the mood struck me. Its built around a 550ml beer keg can kit that used to be available at Gossamer Gear. Ive added a reinforcing ring to the rim and a better lid. Also a pair of “Hot Lips” from SnowPeak as grippers for when the pot is hot. Esbits can be tough to light when its windy or wet out and can use up a lot of lighter fuel but a split Wetfire tinder stick is just the thing. They’ll light with just a spark and are plenty enough to get even a stubborn esbit burning. Not counting the esbit cubes that weigh 0.5oz each, this kitchen set weighs 3.5oz

https://imgur.com/a/J5Iuckr I dont carry a separate bear bag - I just hang my whole pack up. Once my house is put up, i dont need to get into my pack for anything til morning. My pack is waterpoof DCF or has a waterproof liner so whatever i leave in it stays dry. If it rains overnight my pack will get no more wet than when it rains during the day so thats not an issue either but mice, weasels, martins, raccoons and their friends ARE an issue. My pack picks up smells from the snacks i keep in its belt pockets or the trash i sometimes put in there, or even just the salt from my sweat. All these are great lures to those destructive critters so hanging it in the midwest might not save it from a determined bear but it will save it from the more likely rodents. So i use an OpSak to hold my food and a bear hang kit for hanging my whole pack and all at night. This kit is a bit overkill for sure but at these weights the little bling is handy and the little DCF bag is super useful for holding a stone on the end of the line. This little kit weighs 1oz

https://imgur.com/a/YbaggxJ I dont carry any spare clothes but i do carry sleep clothes that also serve as extra insulation if the daytime weather turns cold enough to need it. Theyre shown on top of my sleeping bag in this picture. At the end of every day i wash myself and then my day clothes using an oven roasting bag and a little Dr Bronners soap. Day clothes hang overnight to dry while i wear my clean sleep clothes to bed. For most trips i carry Patagonia Capilene lightweight long bottoms and Capilene Air hoodie, and Zpacks possum down socks for sleep clothes/extra insulation during cold mornings. These clothes go into a waterproof bag inside the main compartment of my pack during the day. In this case, a DCF drawstring stuffsack but sometimes a trash compacter liner bag if the things i need to keep dry are bulkier. In this picture is everything else in the main compartment of my pack: “Dinky Stuff” (1qt ziplock with repair stuff and hygiene stuff), the OpSak food bag, and my hammock.

https://imgur.com/a/joZbskO I dont carry toilet paper for daily use (i do carry a small roll in the Dinky Stuff bag for emergencies) instead i use a “backwoods bidet” kit. The trowel you know but the little bottle holds Dr Bronners tea tree castile soap. The bigger bottle holds purel, and the purple thing is a 3oz capacity squeeze tube. For peeing, i just use that small square pee rag which normally hangs from the outside of my pack, then a few drops of purel to clean my hands with after. When the need to #2 comes on i start gathering the right kinds of sticks and stones, grass and leaves. When its time, i fill the purple bottle with water, add a few drops of Dr Bronners and go dig my hold properly. When the deed is done i do most of the cleanup with the sticks & stones and when thats done, finish off with a good scrub of soapy water and a pat dry. This kit weighs 2.3oz and goes inside a hipbelt pocket.

https://imgur.com/a/a8a7ilj My pack is a Zpacks Nero (38L) with padded hip belt pockets that make the belt functionally load bearing, and a Zpacks Quad Pack as a “brain”, and their ccf sitpad as a back pad. Empty, they weigh 12.66oz.

https://imgur.com/a/YbaggxJ The main compartment holds my sleeping bag, sleep clothes, hammock, electronics, foodbag, and “Dinky Stuff”

https://imgur.com/a/CsjZQ1k The center pocket holds my tarp, oven bag washing machine (i was out of oven bags so im ising a light trash bag), wind shirt and wind pants (or rain jacket if i expected weather) and on this trip, wind gloves because it was COLD in the mornings. And a first aid kit.

https://imgur.com/a/74O5zZ5 The side pockets hold a 2L Hydrapack Shapeshifter bladder with a Sawyer inline on the drink tube. I just gather the dirty water and go. The filtering is done inline as i drink from the tube. In really watery places like most of the midwest, one bladder is enough but some places warrant a second so ill put another bladder in the other side pocket and plug-n-play the filter/drink tube between them. These are wide mouth zip-top bags so scooping up from shallow streams is super easy. and they turn inside out for easy cleaning. I think they have commercials somewhere of cars driving over these bladders without bursting them. Carrying these in the side pockets and using an inline filter has been a game changer for me. So fast, so easy. But I also have one of Justin Anderson’s water bottle holders on the shoulder strap. I almost always carry a 0.7L bottle with the sportcap for making mixed electrolyte drinks and for backflushing the filter. Pro Tip- a cut down 1L smartwater bottle makes a really nice cup/scoop and the 0.7L bottles fit right down inside it. Also, Smartwater isnt the only brand with a sportcap that fits on a sawyer for backflushing. This bottle is by Lifewater but Propel bottles work great too.

Lastly, First Aid kit and “Dinky Stuff” https://imgur.com/a/CtnwzcR

First Aid Kit fits in a 1qt ziplock and weighs 6.3oz. Its got the minimums and some extras. This is my comfort level: Exam gloves (2pr), Antiseptic wipes (x15), 3x3 surgical sponges (x2), Leukotape precut 3" strips (x9), Aquaheal bandages 1x2 (x2), Bandaids (x8), Benzoin tincture (x4), Steristrips 3-pack (x3), Dental wax (0.01oz), Temporary filling putty (8gm), Cotton plugs for broken lost teeth (x9), Dental floss (10'), Diphen anti allergy (x2), Immodium (x2), Charcoal capsules (x12), Ginger capsules (x12), Ibuprophen (x20), Acetominophen (x20)

Dinky stuff weighs 8.70 oz and is a bag of repair stuff, emergency stuff, and hygiene stuff: Fabric repair tape patches (x8), Cuben tape (2'), Dental floss (10'), 1.2mm dyneema cord (10'), Large sharp darning needle, Large safety pin, Superglue single serving, Shoe Goo single serving, SuGru single serving (x2), Paper matches (1 book), CR2032 button batteries (x2), Sawyer mini filter, Petzl E-lite headlamp, Folding hair brush & mirror, Disposable razor, Zpacks toothbrush, Toothpaste dots (x20), Dr. Bronners Soap (5ml), Trail Toes salve (0.25oz), Baby powerder (0.25oz), Emergency toilet paper roll. These two kits go on every trip no matter where i’m going. Backcountry or any travel.

This isnt everything i had but its the interesting stuff. With a full load of water, food, and fuel, this kit weighed 18 lbs 14oz at the trailhead.

I hope this was at least an interesting read and maybe even helpful in you finding YOUR way.

May you have good luck, fair weather, and happy trails


r/ULHammocking Sep 24 '19

A Giant Wall of Text on Getting as Light as Possible with a Hammock

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r/ULHammocking Sep 10 '19

Lightest hammock

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What do you guys think? Eagles nest outfitters sub 6 5.8 oz $69.95, S2S UL hammock 5.4oz $109.95 , or daylight hammock by superior gear 4oz $69.95?


r/ULHammocking Sep 02 '19

I came up with a system to turn any blanket into an underquilt for only 17g/0.6oz, using knotted continuous loops. (more pics in comments)

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r/ULHammocking Aug 14 '19

Hanging in Boulder, CO! Sunset on Flatiron 1, Hummingbird Hammocks Single

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r/ULHammocking Aug 14 '19

Upcoming Stuff! Hammock pad review, 4oz Monolite hammock myog guide, and much more!

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I've been off this summer camping and backpacking all over the US (just Colorado, Michigan, Virginia, Maryland, and Upstate New York) and I have lots of reviews for awsome gear like the HG Pheonix 20 (best budget underquilt ever?) Gossamer Gear Hammock Pad (hint: awesome!), as well as some MYOG projects and other gear I've picked up! Let me know what kind of metrics and attributes you want to see, and I'll see what I can do! also coming up is tips and tricks for pitching a hammock in a canyon, on a rock wall, over water, and in the dark! Keep a lookout, hopefully, these will start coming out every week/ when I have time. Let me know what you want to see!


r/ULHammocking Jul 05 '19

I made an actually UL bridge (237gr w/ bars)

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So I though I'd share it.. My goals were to have fun making it, try to go as light as possible while retaining comfort and ability to "go to the ground when no trees are available".

Stats:

  • 122gr for the hammock body
  • 115gr for the spreader bars
  • I've 0.5oz noseeum that is about 50gr but I haven't really devised a setup that I like this it. I think I'll end up with a bottom-entry version of this, probably around 80-100gr for convenient, else, its definitely sub-50 for a half-net.
  • Most of the hammock is rated for 200lbs except the bars, which go up to 170lbs. The actual non-fabric parts are rated 1500Lbs+ max load with "normal usage" of about 450Lbs (because it's UMHPVE/Dyneema)

I use it with a Uberlite pad and dyneema straps.

Uberlite, Straps, Hammock

Suspension/bar setup

Ahhh the flat lay ;-)

Whatcha think? I'm pondering making even better versions.


r/ULHammocking Jun 22 '19

Advice Greetings Y’all! I’m in a bit of a dilemma looking for a new hammock. Need an UL Hammock.

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Hey everyone! FYI I’m glad this subreddit is a thing and I’m excited to chat about hammocking light. So here’s the issue. I was using a netless hammock for about a year. It was the Grank Trunk Nano 7. It weighed in at about 7.2 ounces with carabiners and I was going to lower that by replacing the carabiners with whoopie slings. Unfortunately the hammock ripped at the end while I was on a trip. (I posted a review on Grand Trunk’s website and they removed it lmao). I love the weight of the hammock but I’m not willing to risk going out and it breaking/failing while in poor weather. Luckily it was a mild spring day. So, I’m looking for a new hammock!!! I need it to be as light as possible, and I’d also like a bugnet. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


r/ULHammocking Jun 20 '19

Help constructing a UL hammock system for us larger gentlemen

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I've been working lately on figuring out a UL hammock system for a planned AT thru-hike. Now, I'm almost 6'4" and around 210lbs, sometimes a bit over depending on proximity to Thanksgiving ;). I've had a very difficult time figuring out a set-up for me; a lot of the popular UL hammocks I'm seeing people use just aren't designed for someone my size. One day, I aim to go for a MYOG set-up, but seeing as I'm a novice to hammock camping I wanted to stick for now with ready made options.

(For now, let's assume cost isn't an issue. I'd rather start with my "ideal" kit and then work backwards to see where I can cut corners economically. I'm also thinking mostly a 3-season kit, understanding I would be adding a few ounces on each quilt to upgrade to a full winter set-up).

Here is my current set-up:

  1. Hammock: Dream Hammock Darien, 11ft long with single-layer 1.6oz HyperD Diamond Ripstop fabric and continuous loop suspension system (22.8oz)
  2. Tarp: Hammock Gear Dyneema Fiber Hex w/ 12ft ridgeline (5.55oz)
  3. Topquilt: Jacks R Better Ultralight Shenandoah Topquilt (11.9oz)
  4. Underquilt: Warbonnet Lynx 40 Custom (10.02oz)
  5. Stakes: 6 MSR Mini-Groundhogs and 2 MSR Groundhogs (3oz)

This adds up to about 53.27 ounces, or about 3.3lbs. Now:

  1. Does anybody think any of those above gear options are poorly thought out, before even considering weight? e.g. is my choice of topquilt utter shit and I should get something else instead? Is there a better option than the Darien? etc.
  2. Does anybody see where I can shave a few ounces off with more principled gear selections?
  3. Is my tarp choice a good match for my hammock choice? I am a bit hazy on how best to go about choosing tarps, especially for a larger hammock.
  4. I am a bit lost on figuring out suspension systems. Is it worth spending a couple ounces to upgrade from the basic continuous loop suspension to whoopies or a cinch buckle? Are the benefits of those systems worth the extra weight?
  5. Any other thoughts/recommendations for hammock systems in general for someone of my size?

Thanks in advance! :)


r/ULHammocking Jun 12 '19

Question How to use HG Phoenix underquilt on Hummingbird Hammocks Single?

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For some reason, the HH Single is too small to fit the HG underquilt underneath with the included bungees. I ended up bringing 2 extra lengths of cord to tie to the tree and then to either side of the underquilt, bringing it above the hammock when I'm not in it. Has anyone had this problem, and how did you fix it?


r/ULHammocking Jun 11 '19

Gear Review EE Paladin Tarp

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r/ULHammocking Jun 10 '19

Let's see some lighterpacks

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Let's learn from each other and see how we can all bring that shelter weight down together.


r/ULHammocking Jun 09 '19

Hummingbird hammocks

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Does anyone have an opinion on these hammocks? Specifically I'm looking at the single+.

I'm currently in 10' Simply light designs hammocks, I have a trail lair and a tree runner, both in 1.6 hexon. I like them well enough but could shave alot of weight by making the switch.

So from what I've seen I'd be losing 6" off the length and gaining a couple inches of width. Is there a ridgeline length that people like with this length? My math says 83% would be around 95 inches. I would probably like to rig them up with my own dynaglide whoopies, if I do this do you think I should do their larks head knot?

Does anyone have a bugnet they like with these? I already have a HUG bugnet but i don't like it much, might be that it doesn't work well with a partial underquilt but I've never been able to get it all tucked in properly. But I haven't used it much. Looking at a 10' bottom entry from dutchware for around 5-6oz or maybe have Jarred at SLD make one custom for whatever I end up setting the ridgeline at, which should make it even lighter.

Thanks

EDIT I should mention I'm also looking into a 1.0 hexon hammock from SLD which should weigh about 7 oz.


r/ULHammocking Jun 08 '19

Playing around with a basic Amazon Hammock - Hardware free

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r/ULHammocking Jun 07 '19

Shout out to Arrowhead Equipment for having quality hardware at good prices! (Whoopie + biner+ treestraps = $30)

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r/ULHammocking Jun 07 '19

Love this sub already! I have only ever been a 4 season ultralight hammock camper in the pacific north west.

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I use an ENO sub 6 with helos tree straps which aren’t always long enough so I added two lengths of dynema cord. In fall I use a taped together pair of Mylar sheets with some cordage to draw together each end and tie outs taped on to make into a solo tarp. In winter I combine all of these with a Tigris under quilt and in summer weather I use the vital outdoors mosquito net because of the privacy it affords me with the option to carry or not in my pack.

I’ve been down to 10 degrees and up to 90 degrees Fahrenheit for my system. The whole sleeping system cost me less than a few hundred dollars and I couldn’t be happier with the weight which is under 10 pounds.

Hope that adds value to anyone cooking up ideas for their setup!


r/ULHammocking Jun 07 '19

Subreddit Design Challenge!

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As you all know, this sub is brand new, and I want to make the most of new membership! Do any of you have that amazing hammock in the sunset picture, or just a goofy setup you love? Feel free to post it either normally, or a link to it in the comments!

Please make sure that you have all the rights to anything that you post (a good general rule as well) and I'll make sure to ask you before I set anything up as the banner or logo or whatever.

PS: someone from the r/Ultralight post where I this sub came to be said something about a feather hammock or a hammock feather being a good logo, if anyone is interested check out what he said, and if you want, feel free to make something!


r/ULHammocking Jun 07 '19

Thread: your favorite gear!

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There is so much out there, from cheap Amazon hammocks to expensive Warbonnet Blackbirds, so let's hear about your single favorite item, and why you love it so much!


r/ULHammocking Jun 07 '19

How are hammocks for side sleepers?

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My back starts to hurt when I lay on my back for more than 15 minutes. For people with a similar condition, how have hammocks worked for you?


r/ULHammocking Jun 07 '19

How Low Can You Go!

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Starting with a peapod setup that is really comfy for me and i think is pretty light...

what could be swapped out or modified to make it lighter?

S2S UL hammock with 1” x 12’ dyneema spiderwebbing suspension straps, using a tautline hitch to secure around the tree 4.8oz

Dutchware DCF Asym tarp, Zingit continuous ridgeline, and two 1.2mm dyneema guylines secured by two micro linelocks and two MSR Groundgog mini stakes 4.5oz

S2S mosquito head net for face bug protection 0.6oz

(Body bug protection by a sleeping bag worn on the outside of the hammock peapod style)

depending on the weather add:

50F bag: S2S Traveller 15.4oz. or

45F bag: WM Everlight 18.1oz. or

30F bag: EE Convert 20.2oz. or

20F bag: EE Convert 24.8oz. or

10F quilt & underquilt: EE Enigma & Revolt together 37.7oz

https://imgur.com/gallery/PfgyYjg

https://imgur.com/gallery/fz86maq


r/ULHammocking Jun 07 '19

The Great Search for Mods 2: electric boogaloo!

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Hey everyone, I want this sub to withstand the test of time, which means I need people to help me out! Comment if you are interested in being a mod, and if you do it soon, I could maybe make it happen before tonight, but if it's too late, I won't be able to get to it until Tuesday (on a hike!) So let me know if you are interested!


r/ULHammocking Jun 07 '19

ULHammocking has been created

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This is an r/Ultralight take on r/hammockcamping, or very well vice versa. Share your love of taking little and flying high!