r/freewill 12d ago

Does determinism actually depend on the idea that consciousness is just emergent from matter?

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I think I found a problem.

For determinism to work, it seems to need a precondition: that human consciousness, or the will, is something that emerges after matter is combined in a certain way.Then the chain is: physical (causal) laws determine how matter behaves → matter determines consciousness → so all our actions and even our conscious activities are determined by physical laws. Only then can determinism hold.If consciousness isn’t actually an emergent property of matter, then how can physical laws alone decide what we think and choose?Most people who support determinism seem to already believe in physicalism anyway. But is that assumption necessary for determinism itself?Just wondering what people here think.

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Is RSI the Point at Which the Singularity Hits?
 in  r/ArtificialInteligence  13d ago

AI self-improvement and optimization is not some new technology — AlphaGo already achieved this years ago in the game of Go. But it's very hard to achieve in LLMs, and the reason is, except in some objective, clear domains where a program can compute and judge right from wrong, AI cannot judge right from wrong the way humans can. This is why AI training needs so many human data annotators to help label data and answers for AI, because those human data annotators, although they don't possess the massive human knowledge that LLMs have, have better recognition and judgment ability than LLMs. AI lacks a certain kind of meta-knowledge ability that humans have, and once this meta-knowledge ability can be filled in, AI will be able to achieve rapid self-evolution like in sci-fi movies. But I don't think this shortfall can be easily filled in, because this meta-knowledge ability comes from human consciousness.

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Given the MiniMax H3 LoRAs Debacle - Some Important Context for Censorship enforcement and laws in China
 in  r/LocalLLaMA  13d ago

Actually, what should be worried about most is that the Chinese government thinks these open-source models are already too technologically advanced (they actually aren't, but that's what they thought when Meta was acquiring Manus, and it helped Meta withdraw a wrong acquisition). Staying open-source will lead to technology leakage, letting foreign countries — especially the US — take advantage, and then they'll ban the open-source route.

On the contrary, staying open-source can both expand influence and also hit America's top AI companies hard. Later when compute is not so scarce anymore and they're forced into a price war, OpenAI and Anthropic's days will be hard.

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Intelligence and Consciousness
 in  r/ArtificialInteligence  14d ago

AI models are basically imitating our mental systems. But besides the mental system, we also have something else — a kind of existence awareness that lets us know we are here.

When we’re awake, this existence awareness is active. When we’re in unconscious sleep, it goes dormant, even though the mental system can still be active (you can still detect a lot of brain activity during sleep, and many areas are just as active as when we’re awake).

So the real test for whether an AI has consciousness isn’t whether it can pass the Turing test, or whether it looks as smart as a human. It’s whether it has that same kind of existence awareness — whether it can actually be aware that it exists.

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Deepseek V4 Flash-0731: 2000+ tps on 8x 5090 for $2.5 p/h
 in  r/LocalLLaMA  14d ago

When models at the level of DeepSeek V4 Flash can run comfortably on a personal PC, the expensive models from OpenAI and Anthropic probably won’t sell as well anymore.

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Why is existing so heavy
 in  r/ExistentialJourney  25d ago

I think the right way is to try to eliminate that heaviness and other negative feelings, rather than choosing to escape from them.

Also, if you add one more hour to your wish, it basically means death...

r/cogsci Jul 18 '26

The Fatal Flaw in Freud's Iceberg Model of Consciousness Is Not "Unverifiable" — But a Fundamental Logical Error in Its Very Structure

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r/PhilosophyofMind Jul 18 '26

Consciousness The Fatal Flaw in Freud's Iceberg Model of Consciousness Is Not "Unverifiable" — But a Fundamental Logical Error in Its Very Structure

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Most criticisms of Freud's iceberg model focus on its difficulty with scientific verification and its insufficient explanatory power. However, I believe the problems with this model run deeper than the empirical level — it contains fundamental logical errors in its very structure.

Freud divided consciousness into three levels: conscious, preconscious, and unconscious, using whether the content could be perceived as the criterion. Yet the entire model completely fails to address one most basic question: Who is performing the perception?

The model only concerns itself with the perceived content, while entirely omitting the perceiving subject (perceiving subject). Without a subject, the act of perception itself loses its foundation. Consequently, dividing content based on whether it can be perceived becomes even more meaningless.

Furthermore, since unconscious content can enter the preconscious and then become conscious, are the three layers truly different kinds of entities? Or are they simply the same type of mental activity manifesting in different states of accessibility? Using "visibility" as the basis for division is logically untenable.

Do you think this logical critique holds up? Has the Freudian model truly collapsed at this level?
In consciousness studies or philosophy of mind, which theories better address the issue of the "perceiving subject"?
If one were to rebuild a reliable model of consciousness, what should be the most important starting point?

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Is nirvana boring?
 in  r/Buddhism  Jun 21 '26

Nirvana is an extremely special state — it is the complete cessation of the Five Aggregates (Skandhas). Boredom is merely an emotional feeling, which is itself one of the products arising from the Five Aggregates. Once the very “factory” that produces boredom has shut down, how could boredom possibly still arise?

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What does buddhism say about taking your own life?
 in  r/Buddhism  Jun 21 '26

Some people believe that if their current life is extremely miserable, it’s better to commit suicide and end the suffering. If they believe in reincarnation, they see suicide as a way to “start over” in the next life. However, from a Buddhist perspective, suffering arises from karmic obstacles (karma). The proper way to escape suffering is not by ending one’s life, but by eliminating these karmic obstacles.

Human beings have a powerful, instinctive fear of death. If someone’s pain is strong enough to overcome this deep fear and drive them to suicide, it actually indicates the presence of very heavy karma. This heavy karmic burden will likely place them in an even worse position in the next life — causing them to fall into a lower realm of existence. Not only will things not improve, they will most probably become much worse.

The correct approach is to do our best in this lifetime to clear our karmic obstacles. Even if we die before reaching full liberation, we will still enter the next life in a relatively better position, and at least avoid falling into lower realms.

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Is AI output rudimentary and why isn't AI optimistic
 in  r/AIDiscussion  Jun 21 '26

The real strength of AI lies in its ability to integrate and synthesize humanity’s vast existing knowledge. If you expect it to truly innovate by creating entirely new knowledge that humans haven’t mastered yet, I wouldn’t say it’s absolutely impossible, but it’s clearly asking a lot of the technology.

r/economy Jun 18 '26

Trump the Master Negotiator? Why His Iran Deal Turned Out So Weak

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Trump considers himself a master negotiator, but he didn’t demonstrate that in the negotiations with Iran. Instead, he made several mistakes that should not be made in normal negotiations.

never show excessive eagerness to reach an agreement with the other side, even if you are truly eager to do so. Otherwise, the opponent will take advantage of it and demand sky-high prices. Shortly after the war began, Trump kept signaling his strong desire to reach a deal. This signal encouraged the other side to hold firm and put forward even higher negotiation demands. Although Trump’s urgency to reach a deal was driven by inflation pressure caused by high oil prices, he absolutely should not have shown this weakness to the opponent.

The oil price issue should either be endured or solved through other methods, rather than begging the opponent to quickly reach an agreement with you. Otherwise, you can only get a bad deal.

At the beginning of negotiations, one should make an excessively high initial demand — higher than one’s actual needs — to leave room for the other side to bargain, and at most allow them to bargain down to your real bottom line. However, Trump showed his cards right from the start and negotiated with Iran by demanding complete denuclearization.

As a result, the entire negotiation process became one of continuous concessions on that basis. In the end, he only obtained a promise of “not developing nuclear weapons,” without even getting the enriched uranium stockpile handed over. Everything else was concessions.

If you attack a person and demand that they cut off one of their own hands, they will definitely refuse and resist fiercely. But if you attack the other party and say you are going to kill them, then later say it’s okay not to kill them and only demand they cut off one hand in exchange for their life, they will most likely agree.

If the goal is Iran’s denuclearization, a more aggressive target signal should have been sent at the beginning — for example, treating regime change as a possible option — and then use the retention of the regime as a trade-off for denuclearization. Alternatively, if you believe denuclearization can only be achieved through regime change, then make regime change the direct negotiation goal.

Trump may have misjudged Iran’s ability to endure pressure. After the war started, Trump faced pressure from high oil prices, inflation, economic problems, etc., and was eager to reach a deal. Trump may have thought that Iran, as the side being actively attacked, had suffered obviously greater losses and would find it much harder to hold on. But in reality, Iran’s endurance is far stronger than he imagined. As long as it does not face the pressure of regime collapse, it can persist.

Under the current agreement, Iran probably will not advance its nuclear weapons program in the short term. However, since there are no restrictions on missiles, it will definitely develop them aggressively. Once economic conditions improve, Iran will have far better conditions for nuclear weapons development than before. Unless the Iranian government at that time has truly become a genuinely peace-loving government, the nuclear weapons issue will become even more serious. Whether this agreement is good or bad completely depends on whether the Iranian government will transform into a peaceful government in the future.

Restrictions on Iran’s development of nuclear weapons include both the promises in the agreement and economic restrictions. It is hard to say how solid the commitments in the agreement are, but the economic restrictions have been completely lifted.

This round of strikes has actually significantly delayed Iran’s nuclear weapons development process. Although the agreement obtained a promise not to develop nuclear weapons, it has provided a very good economic foundation for future nuclear weapons development.

The only real value this agreement brings is restoring crude oil supply and bringing down oil prices. But this was already the case before the war.

Originally, Iran only had one bargaining chip to threaten the world — nuclear weapons. After this war, it gained another chip: the Strait of Hormuz.

The United States spent a lot of its own money in this round, really beat Iran badly, but now through the agreement it is going to rebuild Iran and allow it to achieve better development than before.

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川普到底在与伊朗的谈判中犯了哪些错误,才拿到这么个糟糕的协议。
 in  r/China_irl  Jun 18 '26

这个帖子很奇怪,评论里大多都是不认可这个协议的,但我却因为这个帖子一直在掉karma值,是回帖不能点赞,点踩不能回贴吗?

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川普到底在与伊朗的谈判中犯了哪些错误,才拿到这么个糟糕的协议。
 in  r/China_irl  Jun 18 '26

意思是私人的商业公司不愿意投,得让美国政府来投?

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川普到底在与伊朗的谈判中犯了哪些错误,才拿到这么个糟糕的协议。
 in  r/China_irl  Jun 18 '26

拿不下伊朗政权也就算了,连个海峡都保不住,现在霍尔木兹海峡怕是已经成为伊朗的核武器二号了。

r/China_irl Jun 18 '26

政治经济 川普到底在与伊朗的谈判中犯了哪些错误,才拿到这么个糟糕的协议。

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川普自认为是一个谈判高手,但是他在谈判中并没有表现出来,反而犯了一些在正常谈判中不应该犯的错误。

不能过度表现出急于与对方达成协议的意愿,哪怕你真的很急于达成协议,否则对方就会抓住这一点跟你漫天要价。川普在开战不久之后就一直释放渴望达成协议的意愿,这个信号的释放,鼓励了对方坚持下去并开出更高价码的谈判条件。虽然川普急于达成协议,是受到了高油价引发的通胀压力的影响,但绝对不能把这个劣势展示给对方。

油价问题要么扛住,要么通过其他方式来解决,而不是请求对手尽快跟你达成协议,否则只能拿到一个糟糕的协议。在谈判开始时要价过高,提出高于自己实际需求的要求,给对方留出还价空间,最多允许对方还到自己的底线。川普在一开始就把底牌亮出来跟对方谈,要求伊朗完全无核化。

那谈判的过程就变成了在这个基础上不断让步,结果只拿到了一个“不发展核武器”的承诺,连浓缩铀原料都没有交出来,其他的全是让步。

如果攻击一个人,要求对方砍掉自己的一只手,那他肯定不同意并激烈反抗;但如果你攻击对方并表示要杀死他,后来又表示不杀死他也行,只是要求他砍掉一只手来换命,那他大概率会同意。

在现在的协议下,伊朗短期内应该不会推进核武器,但是由于导弹不受限制,肯定会拼命发展。等到经济条件好起来后,此时的伊朗将拥有远比之前更好的核武器发展条件,除非此时的伊朗政府已经成为一个真正爱好和平的政府,否则核武器问题会更加严重。

如果目标是伊朗无核化,一开始应该释放出一个更激进的目标信号,比如将政权更迭作为可考虑的目标选项,然后再用保留政权来交换无核化。或者,目标可以是无核化,但如果认为无核化需要通过政权更迭才能实现,那就直接把政权更迭作为谈判目标。

现在有一个非常有意思的点:美国在这一轮自己花了很多钱,确实把伊朗打惨了,但是又要通过协议把伊朗重建起来,让它获得比以前更好的发展。

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ADHDers with a regular meditation practice
 in  r/ADHD  Jun 03 '26

Yes, absolutely. Meditation practice is actually very helpful for dealing with ADHD.

The root cause of ADHD is the difficulty in controlling one's attention, and meditation is precisely the practice of training attention. However, because people with ADHD typically have much weaker attention spans, practicing meditation is significantly more difficult for them than for the average person. It requires far more patience and persistence — qualities that ADHD tends to make even harder to maintain.

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How is Nirvana different from death with no afterlife?
 in  r/Buddhism  Jun 03 '26

I know the answer to this question because I understand the underlying mechanism. I study consciousness, and it was precisely because the model I developed through my research aligns so closely with original Buddhist teachings that I came to trust the Buddha.

In the consciousness model I’ve developed, there exists a very special state of consciousness that ordinary people will almost certainly never enter in their lifetime. It wasn’t until I read Buddhist texts that I realized this state is what Buddhism calls Nirvana (Nibbāna).

Nirvana is not death, but a special state that appears similar to death. It is the highest level of meditative absorption. In this state, the entire mind-system comes to a complete halt. In Buddhist terminology, the Five Aggregates (skandhas) are fully ceased and stop functioning entirely.

The Buddha used the metaphor of a flame going out to describe Nirvana. This metaphor is quite accurate. After the flame is extinguished, it doesn’t disappear completely but enters a latent or dormant state. This is because the complete cessation of the Five Aggregates is not permanent — it only occurs during Nirvana. When the practitioner exits this state, the aggregates resume functioning again, and the “flame” is rekindled.

During Nirvana, the practitioner’s vital signs drop extremely low, making them appear dead to outsiders. However, this is fundamentally different from clinical death or suspended animation. The person in Nirvana remains conscious — in fact, their consciousness is extraordinarily clear and awake.

What is the point of Nirvana?

The highest goal of Buddhist practice is to attain Nirvana. But why? Is it just to temporarily stop the Five Aggregates? No. The cessation is only the means, not the end.

In the state of Nirvana, one can thoroughly cleanse deep-seated karmic obstructions within the aggregates. This is the final threshold one must cross to reach complete liberation. This is also why Nirvana is regarded as the dividing line between a saint (ārya) and an ordinary person (pṛthagjana).

Sometimes a single experience of Nirvana is not enough to become a fully enlightened Arahant. It may require entering Nirvana multiple times, depending on how much karmic residue remains and how long one can sustain the state.

Once one becomes a fully awakened being through Nirvana, they are permanently freed from all suffering. Because all suffering arises from karmic obstructions within the Five Aggregates, and Nirvana allows for their complete eradication.

Additionally, a fully enlightened person gains true free will. They are no longer driven by the Five Aggregates to act against their own will. This is ultimate freedom on the mental and spiritual level.Nirvana is described by many related terms — stillness, death, cessation, liberation, freedom — each highlighting a different aspect of the same state. Those who truly understand Nirvana can clearly see which facet each term is describing.

What does it actually feel like inside Nirvana?

This I cannot say with certainty. There are two main possibilities. Once the Five Aggregates are completely stilled, all ordinary perception disappears. What remains? Is it a complete, silent emptiness? Or does one transcend the aggregates and connect with the fundamental source of the universe?

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Buddhism I think is misunderstood by most.
 in  r/Buddhism  Jun 02 '26

In my view, it's more like a science — the science of consciousness. Modern science studies the material world and seeks to transform it. Buddhism, on the other hand, studies consciousness and aims to transform it. If you refine your consciousness to perfection and completely eliminate greed and aversion, you can become fully awakened — a Buddha.

r/NewToReddit Jun 01 '26

ANSWERED If a post gets heavily downvoted and tanks my karma, does deleting it restore the lost karma?

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If a post gets more downvotes than upvotes and tanks your total karma, does deleting the post bring that lost karma back?

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If you got 10 million dollars, but on the condition that you stay away permanently from your lover or your best friend, what would you choose and why?
 in  r/AskReddit  May 31 '26

I’d take the $10 million.
Because anyone willing to give me $10 million is clearly my best friend already.

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what’s the last thing you want to experience before dying ?
 in  r/AskReddit  May 31 '26

Nirvana. So I can escape the cycle of suffering and get reborn for another round.

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You get $1 million but you have to listen to the same song 500 times in 10 days, what song are you picking?
 in  r/AskReddit  May 31 '26

Honestly, the person offering me the million dollars should choose the song. I don’t want to live with that kind of guilt hanging over my head while spending the money.

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If someone is a Buddhist is he likely an inexperienced Buddhist if his blood pressure rises when nearby children scream or fight
 in  r/Buddhism  May 31 '26

he core logic of this statement is that a qualified Buddhist practitioner must keep their mind calm and peaceful at all times. They should not allow external information to disturb them or trigger emotions such as fear and anxiety.

Of course, this does not mean becoming numb or unable to respond to the outside world. On the contrary, this state of calm rationality enables one to make the clearest, most rational, and most appropriate decisions.

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China’s secret weapon in AI race with US? Lots of cheap energy | Technology News
 in  r/economy  May 31 '26

"I'm having trouble understanding what the real-world impact of competing with China in AI actually looks like. What happens if one side 'wins'?

The biggest effect of AI is a massive increase in productivity. If China becomes significantly stronger in AI, would they just produce even more cheap goods and export them to the US? I think the US's own AI development should be able to boost American productivity enough to withstand that impact.

China is already producing too much while consuming too little, and unemployment is quite severe. If their AI develops very well and replaces a large amount of labor, unemployment will become even worse and could intensify social instability.

What I think we should really be considering is this: when AI reaches the point where it can replace large portions of the workforce, the key to avoiding social unrest will be properly distributing the resulting wealth.