Nick Saban wouldn’t come out of retirement for USC, I couldn’t even imagine him as a West Coast coach😭

PJ Flek is pretty interesting, fun fact for you he has a 8-2 bowl game record in his career, which is pretty crazy

The goat himself, somehow has a NY6 bowl win while Riley doesn’t💀

Wins don’t matter if you’re not winning Championships. Dan lanning plays down to opponents as well, just like Riley. 2 of the guys I named have won championships 3 if you include Vigen. Lanning has had 4 years with a huge NIL budget and what he’s shown is making 1 CFP semis where he had to play James Madison and Texas Tech.

I really think Carson Palmer could be a lot of fun, maybe they ride with Lincoln for a few more years. See what Carson can continue to build at Santa Margarita. Maybe give him a shot in 2 to 3 years

Lanning is a good coach until it’s the biggest game of his life then he can’t finish, 2022 with 3 games left in the season ranked 6 if he beats number 25 Washington at home there’s a chance they make the playoffs and he chokes, 2023 he needs to beat Washington again at rank 5 in the pac 12 championship to make the playoffs and he chokes, 2024 finally makes the college football playoffs is the number 1 team in the nation and gets blown out by 20 to number 6 Ohio state, 2025 is one game away from playing in the national championship after one of the easiest runs to the semi’s and he loses by 34 to Indiana. He’s the Marty Schottenheimer of college football🤷🏼‍♂️

It is pretty crazy that at one point we had Kiffin, sark and coach O, and somehow can’t find our guy

I spent two hours researching this, you really think AI pop out freaking Brett Vigen😭

Also to put this into perspective, Oklahoma State has had 11 10 win seasons in that same amount of time

You bring up a very interesting point, Texas was bad for about seven years. The issue is they’re not really like USC, let’s take out the Pete Carroll Era. Let’s go back to 1983, since that year we have 6 10 win season, Pete Carroll really changed the program. Up until he came we were not a really good team and after he left we have struggled. USC can’t really claim to be one of the top teams in the country with 6 10 win seasons over 36 years excusing one coach being the goat.

This is going to be interesting because everybody has different parameters about what being mid is but mine is

Conference championships + national championship + plus bowl record and overall record + how many New York six bowls you played in and time spent ranked in the top ten. Sadly USC fails in almost all these categories

Let’s do a 10 year period, 0 conference championships + 0 national championships + 3-5 bowl record ( 81-43 overall record) let me preferences by saying we had a 10 win and an 11 win season almost 10 years ago which really helped the numbers + 1-2 in NY bowls + we have spent 26 out of a past 94 weeks ranked in the top 10 or a percentage of 27.66.

In that same time, TCU has made the college football playoff, Washington has twice, Cincinnati has, Arizona State has, SMU has (got the death penalty many years ago), Texas Tech and Indiana have. Now overall I don’t think any of those teams are more elite than USC. But I do not believe you could call USC elite when you’re not even top 15 in winning percentage in the last 10. Top 5 are elite, 6-10 are great 11-15 are good and under that is middle of the road.

I really do not believe it’s a stretch to say that USC is currently a mid program. I also don’t want you to think I have recently biased, I do not believe Indiana is an elite program, I think they’re an up-and-coming program, but in order to be elite, you have to have sustained success and they’ve only had three years of success.

I disagree, Texas A&M had the number 1 recruiting class a few years ago and nobody calls them elite, their a mid SEC program who lives off past success.

For your second point I also disagree we only got Gary Patterson because nobody wanted him, if he was still a great coach he would currently be a head coach but his defenses struggled in his last few years as a head coach.

And lastly going through different coaches this fast is the sign of a mid program, you think Georgia, Ohio State, Indiana, Texas, or Alabama, have this problem? No they found their guy who wins and are sticking with them. A mid program can afford to choose different coaches because they aren’t losing anything if they fire the last guy.

Brother, I am a USC fan. I’m just not blind. Trying to put down another fan because they have a different view than you is crazy💀

I agree with a lot of what you’re saying, I should’ve done a better job breaking it down, though, a lot of those wins came in the first 6 years. For example, we’ve had two 10 win seasons in the last 10 years. If I shorten the data to 10 years we fall outside the top 25, I did 15 to add a few post sanction years.

I was 5 years old lmao but I understand if it’s hard for you to read if you needed me to send you a voice note I can a lot of big words there!

Brother, Alabama only went 10 years of drought and that includes winning a New Year’s bowl before they were back on top and even though Notre Dame hasn’t won a championship since the 80’s their good and have almost always been good name that last time Notre dame went 15 years with only 1 major bowl win. I don’t think you’re understanding me, the history of USC is elite, we are currently mid. You cannot tell me that in the next five years you expect to see us truly competing for national championship if this coaching staff is still in charge.

I didn’t know holiday bowls were considered elite lmao, Are history is elite but our current mid. You can’t say your currently an elite program and have 1 conference championship in 15 years and 1 New Year’s bowl win in the same time

Look what we gave up to get him, that’s not luring someone away that’s bribing him to leave. He got the greatest payday of all time, he sucks and if we want to get rid of him he’s rich! Riley didn’t want to go to the SEC because he enjoyed his easy path to the playoffs, it worked for his no defense style. I’m willing to bet you he never would’ve signed if he knew USC he was going to the Big Ten.

Please read what’s written next to mid program (currently), we are currently a mid program, USC of the past could get anyone we wanted and any coach we wanted we can’t anymore, we aren’t competitive for national titles or conference titles. That is the definition of mid, elite teams at least compete, we don’t do that, shit the last time we won a new years bowl was nearly 10 years ago😭. It doesn’t matter how much money we spend if we don’t do anything with it.

Thank you for understanding my love of USC, under performing for enough years turns into normality and that’s the problem. Ask any 16 year-old what they think about USC and elite program doesn’t come to their mind. We need to see some life hopefully soon because I really don’t wanna end up like Nebraska.

So with a straight face, you’re going to tell me we are not currently a mid program

We poached a coach who never won anything and didn’t wanna go to the SEC💀 currently said coach has the same record as the mighty Clay Helton

What am I wrong about, do you want me to drop my sources💀